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KyleMFb

v Expand it

Unions built America and that's a fact. Unions are American non unions are Chinese... But it's quite fitting that repubes wanna get rid of unions so they the "job creators" can pay workers less....

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DotsonB voted

v Expand it
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Thu
Obsidion voted

v Curb it
Thu
GunPolitics endorsed Bobolinsky

v Curb it
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Wed
Bingo35 endorsed LeslieAbi

v Curb it
May 15

Randolf

v Expand it

Sadly my union is a joke. But i still believe their a important thing for the working man.

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May 14
LilliB voted

v Curb it
May 13
Bill2E voted

v Curb it
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May 13
HMB1114 voted

v Curb it
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May 13
Fyi1957 endorsed blacktooth

v Keep it the same
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May 12
URBS endorsed Fuchsia

v Curb it
May 12
citizen7 endorsed Fuchsia

v Curb it
May 11

oldman75

v Expand it

The teabagging house just passed a bill to get rid of premium pay for overtime . What's next the 40 hour week and child labor laws ?All that was won by those you now despise labor unions .

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May 10
frederick endorsed kdb59

v Expand it
May 9
ST_Louie_Sue voted

v Curb it
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May 8

stephen

v Curb it

they became obsolete.

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May 8
DavidRobertson voted

v Curb it
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May 8
anc713 endorsed BigD1391

v Expand it
May 7
Nationalist88 voted

v Curb it
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May 7

fraps

v Curb it

First, eliminate unions for government employees. The unions were supposed to balance the power between employers and employees. There is no conceptual or real need to balance the power between individual employees and the government. Second, unions and companies are quite different. The unions have a giant advantage in the unionization process. Even with the advantage most people find themselves better off without having to pay union dues than paying union dues to support extravagance by the union leaders. One other point. The states with right to work laws have much better financial positions then the states without. More companies are willing to work there i...

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May 6

jeffreyknee

v Curb it

Their influence on gov't labor policies over the last 100 years have made unions obsolete. Some policies have been for the better, but others for the worse. The minimum wage law discourages hiring citizens and encourages hiring illegals. Illegals will work for sub-min too, live in group homes, share costs. But citizens will opt for public assistance, live alone in public housing, have unwed kids, and multiply the problem.

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May 6

bsking

v Curb it

labor has become nothing more than a PAC for Democrats... which coincidently gives them the power that they have

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May 6
joyshusband endorsed LeslieAbi

v Curb it
May 5

LonePalm

v Curb it

Private unions? Who cares as long as it isn't a closed shop? Public Employee unions should be banned. There is no right to organize against the public interest. This is exactly what public employee unions do.

B2

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May 5
MaxPain voted

v Expand it
May 4
Republicans27 voted

v Curb it
May 3
InjusticeSucks endorsed kdb59

v Expand it
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May 3
GvtMule endorsed Bobolinsky

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May 3
USailCapital endorsed Fuchsia

v Curb it
May 2

mwr

v Curb it

make membership and dues optional, if they are as needed as implied then the workers will freely join and pay dues.

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May 2
Mr_me endorsed BigD1391

v Expand it
May 2

Canoochee

v Curb it

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May 2
NoAmnestyEVER voted

v Curb it
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May 1
Atcman voted

v Curb it
May 1
FatTony14 endorsed LeslieAbi

v Curb it
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May 1
darkmoonman endorsed blacktooth

v Keep it the same
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Apr 30
treedcat25 endorsed kdb59

v Expand it
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Apr 30
Big_jeff endorsed LeslieAbi

v Curb it
Apr 30
PaulBartomioli endorsed LeslieAbi

v Curb it
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Apr 30
NolanVoyd voted

v Expand it
Apr 30
swaney3 voted

v Curb it
Apr 30
loganrollo endorsed LeslieAbi

v Curb it
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Apr 29

BossTweed

v Curb it

If we do nothing we will be Greece in a few years. Unionizing Public Employee ala Teachers was a clear act of CIVIC Suicide for America.

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Apr 29
Keystroke endorsed Fuchsia

v Curb it
Apr 28

Glich

v I'm not sure

I am pro union. I just believe most Unions have become "Party PAC Funds" - funds derived from members who for the most part don't know they have the right to say no. Most Unions don't even bother to inform their members they are supposed to give the Union "written authorization" to take PAC Fund Money from their Union dues. Most workers see a "Union Dues" deduction in their pay statement. Its against Federal Law to use Union dues as campaign money. So they don't tell the employees what they think are "Union Dues" include Political PAC Fund Donations. When was the last time your Union asked you - the worker - who they should donate to Politically speaking? What Po...

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Apr 28
Mnementh voted

v Keep it the same
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Apr 28
kimmie99 voted

v Curb it
Apr 27
Party-Cults voted

v Curb it
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Apr 27
earl endorsed LeslieAbi

v Curb it
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Apr 27
blueberrysyrup voted

v Curb it

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KyleMFb

v Expand it

Unions built America and that's a fact. Unions are American non unions are Chinese... But it's quite fitting that repubes wanna get rid of unions so they the "job creators" can pay workers less....

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May 15

Randolf

v Expand it

Sadly my union is a joke. But i still believe their a important thing for the working man.

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May 11

oldman75

v Expand it

The teabagging house just passed a bill to get rid of premium pay for overtime . What's next the 40 hour week and child labor laws ?All that was won by those you now despise labor unions .

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May 8

stephen

v Curb it

they became obsolete.

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May 7

fraps

v Curb it

First, eliminate unions for government employees. The unions were supposed to balance the power between employers and employees. There is no conceptual or real need to balance the power between individual employees and the government. Second, unions and companies are quite different. The unions have a giant advantage in the unionization process. Even with the advantage most people find themselves better off without having to pay union dues than paying union dues to support extravagance by the union leaders. One other point. The states with right to work laws have much better financial positions then the states without. More companies are willing to work there i...

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May 6

jeffreyknee

v Curb it

Their influence on gov't labor policies over the last 100 years have made unions obsolete. Some policies have been for the better, but others for the worse. The minimum wage law discourages hiring citizens and encourages hiring illegals. Illegals will work for sub-min too, live in group homes, share costs. But citizens will opt for public assistance, live alone in public housing, have unwed kids, and multiply the problem.

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May 6

bsking

v Curb it

labor has become nothing more than a PAC for Democrats... which coincidently gives them the power that they have

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May 5

LonePalm

v Curb it

Private unions? Who cares as long as it isn't a closed shop? Public Employee unions should be banned. There is no right to organize against the public interest. This is exactly what public employee unions do.

B2

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May 2

mwr

v Curb it

make membership and dues optional, if they are as needed as implied then the workers will freely join and pay dues.

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May 2

Canoochee

v Curb it

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Apr 29

BossTweed

v Curb it

If we do nothing we will be Greece in a few years. Unionizing Public Employee ala Teachers was a clear act of CIVIC Suicide for America.

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Apr 28

Glich

v I'm not sure

I am pro union. I just believe most Unions have become "Party PAC Funds" - funds derived from members who for the most part don't know they have the right to say no. Most Unions don't even bother to inform their members they are supposed to give the Union "written authorization" to take PAC Fund Money from their Union dues. Most workers see a "Union Dues" deduction in their pay statement. Its against Federal Law to use Union dues as campaign money. So they don't tell the employees what they think are "Union Dues" include Political PAC Fund Donations. When was the last time your Union asked you - the worker - who they should donate to Politically speaking? What Po...

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Apr 27

miketost

v Curb it

Labor unions are doing a great job of curbing themselves.

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Apr 26

PNWest

v Expand it

All you have to do is plot the downfall of the middle class alongside the decline in the power of unions. As the unions go so goes the middle class. Since the Reagan years the power of unions has been on the decline. During that time we've seen the rich get richer and the poor and middle class get poorer. This is not a coincidence. Strong unions were responsible for a strong middle class and without them the middle class will dwindle.

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May 9

scorpion

The middle class were doing better before the unions. I suppose you think the unions pay for OSHA. How about they collect 3000$ a year from each worker and have a picnic every year. The prices of durable goods is tied to wage, so when you go shopping and complain about the prices, you can thank the union for your little raise that did more for the bosses than you.

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Apr 26

harold_lloyd

v I'm not sure

I do know that there is a concerted effort to destroy unions, especially in state and local govt employee unions. You might want to find out who and why.

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May 14

fraps

According to FDR, the godfather of unionism, Government employees should not be unionized. It appears the comparison of closed shop and open shop states demonstrate why.

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May 14

harold_lloyd

@fraps "comparison of closed shop and open shop states demonstrate why." Compare what? Tell me the advantage, with supporting data, that one has over the other.

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Apr '13

FuturistNow

v I'm not sure

I am for freedom of assembly, the government should not be involved in labor markets at all. I think that because of the government labor unions have become scarce and bloated.

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Mar '13

mcat45

v Curb it

curb it. I grew up on "both sides"; dad was union then got promoted to management at Dayton power and light. Bottom line: in the 1800s and early 1900s, "yellow dog" contracts and working conditions were hell-and Pinkertons beating the hell out of strikers was absurd. NOW the Unions bust heads, exclude opposing viewpoints, and price their business/services out of existence. UAW=PAC. Look at who funds the political candidates at the average cost to campaign for a senatorial seat; yes, we need to curb the unions, but how? Common sense would go a Looong way in serving the working folks-of which I am one- in dealing with management. The best formula I have seen for success ...

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Feb '13

ZombieMedic

v Curb it

Big John Friendly has the whole waterfront in his pocket.

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Dec '12

Skyclmbr

v Curb it

The unions are the very reason why companies are closing. Take Hostess for instance. Also due to unions demanding more and democrats imposing harsh penalties for emissions for factories. It forced companies to go over seas. This started more heavily under Clinton.

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Nov '12

rmancassman

v Curb it

As Kent Brockman said, organized labor is a lumbering dinosaur.

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LeslieAbi

v Curb it

Unions no longer improve the work place, instead they hinder it by their outrageous demands and protests. There are so many better ways to go about getting what you deserve than a picket fence.

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Jun '12

Fuchsia

v Curb it

Labor unions have outlived their usefulness and offer no real protection. They hinder the rights of employees, promote bad behavior, raise prices, and lower what employees can take home. Public education would be much better without unions, since the school districts would be free to fire incompetent or abusive teachers. Unions are against merit-based job testing. Plus they tend to be crooked. In some areas, teaching unions are even extorting money from those who home school their kids, those who have their kids in private schools, and those without kids.

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Jun '12

BigD1391

v Expand it

Without Unions and the Public Sector, we would all be slaves. Open your mind people.

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Jun '12

Bobolinsky

v Curb it

I have had the "pleasure" of working in a union shop a few times. In those shops the most common refrain as to why we couldn't do something a certain way was, "union rules". . Everything from pay, vacation, and promotions to division of labor, shifts, and grievance resolution is dictated by the union contract. . The end result in a union shop is the union member takes what little power s/he has and hands it over to a collective that often doesn't have the individual's best interest in mind. The end result is that individuals have no choice, freedom, or voice in a union shop.

B6

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Jun '12

eyesandears

v Expand it

I support any movement that limits corporate America's choke hold on the American government. There are too many men and women in the executive and judicial branches of government that are bought and paid for by big business. Everything from the FDA to big energy corporations is touched by this greed and nastiness. Nothing is black and white any more, too much gray area and the American worker has paid the price through outsourcing all of our jobs. Labor Unions that fairly represent American workers are what I feel the backbone of the teeny weeny economy we have left, and I believe they could and should be the element that rebuilds the economic future of our country.

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e9 endorsed

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Jun '12

blacktooth

v Keep it the same

The unions are important because they keep employers in check. Once unions are disbanded, there will be no voice to speak together to keep labor laws and practices fair. Unions have always kept politicians and employers honest.

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Jun '12

kdb59

v Expand it

Organized labor gives the workers/middle class the ability a living wage. When the workers are paid a fair wage, they have more to spend and this is what will build the economy. We are the true job creators when we purchase products.

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e6 endorsed

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Jun '12

Justus

v Curb it

Government workers should never be allowed to unionize. Government is already loaded with fraud,theft,laziness and benefits when compared to the average working American.

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Jun '12

USWUnion

v Expand it

Hitler banned trade unions in 1933. Just wanted to throw that out there. Unions are good for any economy because they level the playing field between employee and employer. Anyone not in favor of a Union better be a business owner themselves or really wealthy otherwise I'd venture to say you're a stooge. Without Unions you'd have no overtime pay, off days, lunch, breaks, etc. So basically you'd be turning back the clock on decades worth of labor struggles that were hard earned with the blood of our ancestors paving the way for what we have taken for granted. So anyone that disagrees with what Unions do for the working class should give up every freedom at work that the...

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Jun '12

CaryNickel

v Curb it

I believe that labor unions, in the private sector, have outlived their usefulness and no longer represent the worker, but a political voting block, most likely leftist. Public sector unions shouldn't exist in the first place. The primary duty of the public sector is to serve the private sector. That should be their focus. And if they aren't doing that job in a satisfactory manner, nothing should stand in the way of public sector employees being fired, same as a private sector worker. What's more, no public sector worker should be getting paid more, or be getting better benefits, than their private sector counterpart.

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