California's university system has rejected a proposal to ban hate speech of an allegedly anti-Semitic variety, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.
A University of California representative said a nonbinding resolution to "ban activity that could be interpreted as intolerant or anti-Semitic" was faulty on first Amendment grounds, and risked violating the free speech rights of students and faculty. The resolution, spearheaded by Rep. Linda Halderman, a Fresno Republican, and Democrat Rep. Bonnie Lowenthal of Long Beach, was partly motivated by popular anti-Israel protests held on the state's university campuses. Some such protests feature student-actors portraying Israeli soldiers and their dead Palestinian victims.
"California schools need to recognize that anti-Semitism is still a very real issue on college campuses," said Halderman, who referred to a study claiming that demonstrations such as those described above run counter to the maintenance of a "safe, humane environment" for all students.
But hers is an opinion not shared by UC President and First Amendment scholar Mark Yudof. Yudof rejected the divisive ban dubbed "highly ideological" by the Council on American-Islamic Relations but supported by the Anti-Defamation League and the NAACP.
Via the San Francisco Chronicle.
Oh get off your high horse already. The "conservative" 'church' known as Westboro Baptist has found a way to justify their bigotry, antisemitism, homophobia and general other hatred, specifically towards heroic veterans of the US military.
Seriously. This isn't a issue of 'progressive' or 'regressive' mentalities, but rather a just decision on the merits of civil rights. EVERYONE is entitled to the freedoms of speech, expression, assembly, etc. This is the reason that those (IMO) freaks of nature over in Westboro haven't yet been arrested, along with certain 'well known' Blank Panthers and biker gangs.
"Beware of attempting to remove the speck in your brother's eye, when you have a log in your own."
I believe in free speech, so let the anti-Semites embarrass themselves. I would note however, that if we were talking about anti-gay protests, the University would have banned them so fast it would make your head spin.
The target here was clearly anti-Israeli protests, not anti-semitic ones. I'm prepared to be proven wrong, but can you give an example of an anti-semitic protest having taken place on a University (of California) campus in recent years?
@ded I'm saying that protesting Israel's treatment of Palestinians is a very fine line considering anti-semitism is the heart of the conflict. No other country has been demanded to return lands won in war. The Palestinians didn't have a country of their own before Israel came along. Most Palestinians get along fine with Jews but the groups like hezbollah and hamas backed by anti-semitic regimes in neighboring countries stir the conflict. On the other hand, proteators rarely understand what they are actually protesting.
I agree you can be critical of a country.not their populace bit to.most observers the appearance is the same.
Why is disapproving Israel's treatment of Arabs considered Anti-Semitic? Perhaps itis becasue the State of Israel is above the same criticism that is freely expressed against any other country around the World?
Agreed. The whole hate speech thing needs to go away. Can't have freedom and censorship only when it suits you. Want to protest gays, blacks, hispanics, feminists, tree huggers, all should be allowed. Whether or not we like those points of view they are allowed, even idiots have the right to speak. We also have the right to disagree. I love the hypocrisy of freedom of speech is great until someone says something they don't agree with and then it's hate speech and should be censored. BTW, I'm all for an anti- Islamic extremists protest on that same campus.
Demonstrations against Israel are probably not anti-semitic, but are against Israel's policies. One needs to distinguish between a country, a religion, and an ethnic group. Mark Yudof is Jewish and I would trust his take on the demonstrations.
@MellowGuy I would infer most but not "all Muslims hate Jews." Prime source documentation of muslims denigrating the jews can tell us that at least some muslims hate jews. As for the USS Liberty incident, the motivations of the Israelis during their engagement with Egypt would be considerably illogical if they intended to draw the US super power against them. Nor can I think of another reason for their attack other than fog of war. Very similar to the US bombing Canadian troops in Afghanistan. A terrible accident. Thank you for the link.
They keep asking these questions in an attempt to elicit a response that would contradict some part of the Bill of Rights...EVERY SINGLE DAY. I find it comforting that they always seem to fail...but I've got to ask: How much longer will those who pull the strings here allow it to go on like this before they drop the strings and pick up the plug?...and yes, I AM laughing.
"Palestine has never existed ... as an autonomous entity.
There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Egyptians, Iraqis, etc. Yasser Arafat, perhaps the most recognized “Palestinian” was born in Egypt.
Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass.
But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today. Greed. Pride. Envy. Covetousness. No matter how man and concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough."
But keep in mind that the Palestine's thank every inch of Israel is occupied land. They deny the right for Israel to exist ever since it came in to existence. Palestinians and fellow Arabs have been terrorizing Israel for almost 65 years.
@IMAQT ignores that the Middle East is complicated. A classmate from Israel told me that the Jewish language was forbidden in Israel. Israel decided to use Hebrew which was completely redone from the ancient Hebrew adding words that refer to the modern world.(He said there is only one word in common with English). Not all Arabs are Muslim. Many Muslims aren't Arab. Iran isn't an Arab country. The UK and other Western countries were responsible for break up of the Middle East into countries to accommodate their economic interests.
@MellowGuy "@IMAQT ignores that the Middle East is complicated. " So you want me to address the various ME issues on a Politix thread? A book the size of war and peace isn't large enough to address all the ME issues.
I support Free Speech. A true test of your conviction for Free Speech is when you allow speech that offends you. And the sign offends me. I would like to see a sign showing a bus filled with body parts of blown up dead Israeli children and Palestinians rejoicing at the success of their mission.
It's good they are standing up. Just a note, the Jews are the ones that turned in Jesus! Israel spied on the USA that's how they got their nukes! You have to be fair & not hide things from people those days are over! Keep standing up!
our enemies seek to punish the United States and the West for perceived attacks upon Muslims worldwide, to secure control over the Middle East and its oil by forcing the withdrawal of Western military forces and cultural influences, and ultimately to establish Islam as the dominant force worldwide by undermining the Western institutions that restrict the ascendancy of radical Islam. Just a small sample of what Israel has to put up with: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
No. Freedom of speech. Besides it would be overapplied. Some people automatically equate "anti-Israel" with "anti-semitic". That's just as illogical as saying if you disagree with China's Tibet policy that you must be sinophobic.
If students want to protest about Israel's policies, then of course they have that right. It's usually conservatives who complain about "playing the race card". I hope those same conservatives can see that describing anti-Israel protests as anti-Semitic is a perfect example of "playing the race card".
It's free speech. So is this call to replace the Constitution with Sharia law. And blatant anti-semitism. http://www.examiner.com/article/dnc-joins-han... Guess we know where Obama and the DNC stand. You still want Obama for president? Insanity.
Good Lard ir0nw0lfe, I thought you were too smart to buy into Conspiracy Theories. Obama is a Muslim? Do you suffer from Obamaphobia? By the way the DNC didn't join hands with BIMA. The BIMA is riding on the shirttails of the DMC.
@Wilberhum I never said Obama was Muslim. I am bothered that the DNC feels it is appropriate to have to Islamic clerics who advocate replacing the Constitution with Sharia law as the openers. How that even make sense for the DNC? One of these guys was implicated in the 9/11 attack!
@ir0nw0lfe You use a link that promotes Obama as a Muslim to support your stance. If you think calling Obama a Muslim is a lie, why would you use a source that lies to support your point of view? PS: As for being anti-Islam, I'm in the top 10%.
@Wilberhum I don't care if he is w,Muslim. Wouldn't thrill me but I chose the link because it qouted some the prayer verses which ate clearly anti-semitic. Islamic clerics qoute the Koran and dispatage Jews. Who would have guessed? My point is that the DNC is opening with 2 hrs of Islamic prayers by 2 clerics who advocate overthrowing our basis for govt and replacing it with Sharia law. You don't think this sends a message? You don't see this as a problem? It's insane. Where ate all the separation of church and state people on this? Ehyvis MSM ignoring it? Don't like the link Google DNC opened by Muslims and pick one. Even the most left don't dispute that it is happening. One of the imams was implicated in the 9/11 attacks. This is beyond ridiculous.
@Wilberhum I don't care if he is w,Muslim. Wouldn't thrill me but I chose the link because it qouted some the prayer verses which ate clearly anti-semitic. Islamic clerics qoute the Koran and dispatage Jews. Who would have guessed? My point is that the DNC is opening with 2 hrs of Islamic prayers by 2 clerics who advocate overthrowing our basis for govt and replacing it with Sharia law. You don't think this sends a message? You don't see this as a problem? It's insane. Where ate all the separation of church and state people on this? Why is MSM ignoring it? Don't like the link Google DNC opened by Muslims and pick one. Even the most left don't dispute that it is happening. One of the imams was implicated in the 9/11 attacks. This is beyond ridiculous.
And protesting against a country's policies is hardly anti-Semitic. Just because Israeli people happen to be mostly Jewish has nothing to do with it. Israel has a long list of invading neighboring countries.(Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, etc.). I mean what if America invaded so many countries, what would those invaded countries think of us...?
@Wilberhum I see your point. American foreign policy would have most people believe that we are fighting a war with Muslim extremists. But if we look at who we do business with in the Middle East I'm pretty sure Saudi Arabia is our largest trading partners in the area since the 30's. Not only with natural resources but with arms sales, student exchange programs, "goods" and construction work to. Saudi Arabia has a huge amount of students in America at any given time. US arms sales to Saudi Arabia alone totaled $33.4 billion last year. That amount surpassed the entire total of U.S. arms sales to all countries in the world in 2009,$31 billion. Starting in the 70's Saudi Arabia was having a huge influx of money, and they had mass infrastructure improvements that were mostly provided by American businesses. American businesses brought Saudi Arabian infrastructure into the modern world. Also the dictators of Saudi Arabia have a long history of friendship with business and political leaders in America including the Bush family. And let us not forget that Al-Quada, The Taliban and other Muslim terror groups hate the dictators of Saudi Arabia because of their close ties to America, so we are partners with the Saudi Arabian dictators in the "War on Terror". Even though the citizens of of Saudi Arabia are some of the most fundamentalist Muslims on the planet.
So, the dictators of Saudi Arabia are our best friends, but the people of Saudi Arabia, maybe not so much.