Romney's religious faith disqualifies him from becoming president, according to Prof. Richard Dawkins, bestselling author of The God Delusion.
"Romney's prophet Joseph Smith is a fraud," Dawkins tweeted mildly on Sunday afternoon, alluding to Mormonism's founder.
"Bible & Koran genuinely old, written in the language of their time. Book of Mormon written by 19th [century] charlatan. Romney too stupid to see it," continued Dawkins, expanding into a series of inflammatory anti-Mormon tweets. "Could you really vote for a man who thinks the Garden of Eden was in Missouri?"
"No matter how much you agree with Romney's economic policy, can you really vote for such a massively gullible fool?"
Dawkins also quoted a highly controversial part of Mormon teaching, on interracial relationships, from early Mormon leader Brigham Young: "Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood . . . the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so." But Mormons have accepted interracial marriages since the 1970s, and Romney has "dismissed any notions that he agrees with the idea that interracial relationships are a sin," according to the Christian Post.
@steve-chicago Agree, unless the person running for president plans on using his religious beliefs to inform his policies. Not saying Romney is doing that, but it is something that we should be vigilant of for any candidate, including Obama.
EDIT DOUBLE NEGATIVE: Just to be concise and clear... Of course Romney will disagree with any idea that will NOT help himself get elected or will NOT appeal to the Ryan/Romney and its greedy 1%. (Darn Caps Lock.)
@Capt_Morgan02 Well, his atheism is merely a position of disbelief based on a lack of empirical evidence. It is in no way a statement of truth, so I see that as a kind of straw argument. His facts on Mormonism are verifiable if you are so inclined to research it, so no need for the parenthetical.
Actually he does mention Christianity, and Islam. Speaking of the Bible, and the Koran. But that isn't the point of what he's saying. He's pointing out that Mormonism is based off a Con Man.
"Well, in spite of 140 years of silence, the records did surface. Rev. Wesley Walters discovered the documents in the basement of the Chenango County, New York, jailhouse at Norwich, N.Y. in 1971. The records, affidavits, and other data show conclusively that Joseph Smith was arrested, went to trial, was found guilty as an imposter in the Stowell matter of "glass-looking." It is not a matter of debate, opinion or religious preference. It is a proven historical fact"
Google Glass-Looking, then google how Smith "founded" mormonism, and you will see why he's a fraud, as is the religion.
@ir0nw0lfe And your point? I wasn't suggesting he was. Simply explaining the point of the article. No different than Republicans bashing Obama for being "Muslim", well I guess it is different, because Obama's not a muslim. Though Romney does believe in Mormonism.
@ir0nw0lfe Which has nothing to do with the point of my post. I wasn't inferring anything. Just stating facts. So why pick my post to respond to with this? I don't believe Romney has the ability to lead this country, but it has little to do with his religious beliefs. It's more his flip flopping on issues, and his pitiful record as Governer that infers he lacks the ability to be a good President.
@seedtick It was a rhetorical question he was asking based on his understanding of Mormonism. You don't have to agree with his conclusion about not voting for Romney, but I don't believe he said anything factually incorrect about Mormonism.
@seedtick Well, if you feel that Black Liberation Theology is a factor in this election, and you feel it is as much a scam as Mormonism is, perhaps you should bring it up to Mr. Dawkins. Perhaps he's not aware of it and would appreciate your input.
@mimi57 I noticed you got your definition from the "Urban Dictionary". But you left out the second definition from that same page. Probably an accidental oversight on your part, so, for completeness I will include it below:
2. Christophobe An insult used by Christian fundamentalist extremists against anyone who disagrees with their twisted, hateful interpretation of scripture, and the homophobia, sexism and racism that it implies. Part of a greater sentiment among Christians that they are persecuted, despite the fact that Christianity is the most powerful and publicly accepted religion in this country, most government officials are Christian, including the President, as well as most notable figures in the media. Some funamentalist Christians want a world in which public schoolchildren are forced to pray to Jesus Christ, homosexuals are actively persecuted, non-Christians are second class citizens and women with unwanted pregnancies end up bleeding to death from self-administered abortions. Anyone opposed to this twisted fantasy of what would in actuallity be a hellish and depressing future is labeled a "Christiophobe."
If we are supposed to have separation of church and state then Romney's religion is irrelevant. There hasn't been a Christian president yet who forced his religion on the people. Secular humanism however has become the official religion of the US and it's proponents proudly disrespect Christainity. Romney will preserve and respect my freedom of religion and that is all I ask of him regarding this subject. I do not need Dawkins approval.
You should read up on why a morman should never be president. If he is a good morman his religion is relevant. A morman prophet had a vision from god that one day a morman would be president to avenge the us govt for their mistreatment of their prophet joesph smith. So if he is a good morman he will follow any thing the morman church leaders say was in their " new visions" the research I did on mormans shocked me. I googled why a morman should never be president, then found some articles from ex mormans explaining their holiest of secrets. They dont care about your religion or mine.
@Kajai A vote against Romney is a vote for Obama. Watch what Obama's cozy relationship with the muslims got the US this week. Romney's religion isn't going to get my family killed for being Christians.
@Realthinker. Pfft! Stay uninformed if u want but you should just google it and find out for yourself. You should really balance your info on both religions, mormans have a disturbing past also. Obama's religion is Christianity so your comparison is misguided.
@Realthinker and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I personally don't believe the things I've seen about him being muslim. But why not inform yourself throughly with the other religion too? That is what baffles me. Romney should not just get a pass, look into it. I'm telling you it was shocking I promise it will make you think differently about how Romney's religion.
Blacks are a "cursed people"...according to Mormon doctrine. At least that was the Mormon teaching until 1978, when then LDS President, Spencer W. Kimball, proclaimed the Mormon god (little "g") had changed his mind and "lifted" this so-called "curse". The notion of God (capital "G") being so fickle and prone to changing his mind is at extreme odds with the scriptures - "Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning." - James 1:17; "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever." - Hebrews 13:8 Religious freedom - the right to worship as you please - is embodied in the First Amendment to our Consitution, but I will not be voting for a man who subscribes to what I truly believe is a crackpot religion.
Wouldn't Dawkins argument disqualify Obama as well? He claims to he man of faith. Well, the pundits predicted we would see attacks on Romney's faith as a prelude to destroying his character before the election. Go figure, an atheist doesn't agree with a Mormon.
"Wouldn't Dawkins argument disqualify Obama as well? He claims to he man of faith. "
Fully agree. To be fair, if he is going to criticize faith, he should do it equally to both sides. I think his point, right or wrong, is that the falsehood of Mormonism is even more obvious since more recent knowledge exists of its founder and his reputation as a charlatan. Harder to prove that of someone who allegedly lived 2000 years ago.
This sounds more like a threat than a reminder. Maybe you should remember that this is America, where we don't kill people for their beliefs or lack thereof and where each of us have Constitutional rights that allows just that.
From what I've read about O'Hair (correct spelling), she and her son and granddaughter were murdered by a nut job who used to work for them. It was about kidnapping and murder, with half a million dollars in gold coins involved. She and her family were apparently not murdered because of their atheism.
Not at all. The only Gullible fool is Dawkins. He too will bow at the feet of the Jesus Christ. So he is indeed gullible. Don't believe it, really do not care. Truth is what I believe in, take or leave it.
Who bow at Jesus feet? Why not Mohammed, or Zeus? Why would you bow at anyone's feet? Bowing is the desire of men. Religious people are so amusing. They ignore science until their prescriptions run out.
You forget, Mr. Dawkins, that the majority of Americans voted for a massively inexperienced hot air balloon in 2008. Mr. Romney is NOT running for pastor, as he's said on several occasions. He's running for President of the United States and has more leadership qualities and economic background to more than qualify him for president. So take your atheism and look in the mirror when you call someone a massively gullible fool.
After listening to the speeches by Hilary and Mr. Romney this morning regarding the murder of our ambassador and 2 others in Libya, I say Romney any time. His speech didn't cut any edges or try to coddle anyone's feelings, he just put it out there. Then comes obama with his feely touchy little speech. No one in any other country is afraid of us because they know obama hasn't got the guts to really do anything. Bring on the Mormon, at least he'll take action instead of sitting on his hands or playing golf or basketball or campaigning. Anything obama can do to keep him from facing reality. Romney isn't running for America's pastor, but he will make a good president. He is very sharp in finances and managing people.
I think being a community organizer and Diplomat is more important than having experience with private equity. Romney has shown that he isn't ready to handle real conversations about real global problems. He lacks diplomatic skills.
@BigD1391 ...Diplomacy hasn't worked so well with radicals, has it? Maybe it's time somebody stood up for America and let these violent and evil attackers know we aren't apologizing to enemies. You seem to forget that Mr Romney has years of leadership experience, including governing a state, running companies, and bringing our olympics out of the hole and into profit and pride.
@ACTSmom I applaud your rhetoric. But the position he takes is very dangerous. It's not about apologizing or not apologizing, it's about his mentality- and how he would approach diplomatic situations in which he could easily provoke unwanted blowback because of his adamancy.
If Richard Dawkins is an atheist then how does he have the right to say Romneys beliefs are a fraud. I guess being a Muslim is better. I can remember when President Kennedy was running for office. The cry then was "Oh, my gosh, he's a catholic."