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Yes, we should

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No, we shouldn't

@Nov '12 c 222 comments V 546 votes

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Amy2723 voted

v No, we shouldn't
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HMB1114 voted

v Yes, we should
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DesignerLM voted

v Yes, we should
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May 20

Just_Lisa

v Yes, we should

The thug would have lost. It really dont matter now, with Obama opening the floodgates to anyone illegal, I don't expect anymore votes. Obama will be in as king. For a long. Long. Time.

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May 20
Rpete endorsed CigarBulldog

v Yes, we should
May 19
jimsnoek voted

v Yes, we should
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May 18
tomtheterrible endorsed Cheenoguy

v Yes, we should
May 18
Koma voted

v Yes, we should
May 18
solodad voted

v Yes, we should
May 18
sillybilly1b voted

v Yes, we should
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May 17
DrSilicon voted

v Yes, we should
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May 17
Bob_in_Rico voted

v No, we shouldn't
May 17
okienomore54 endorsed CigarBulldog

v Yes, we should
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May 16
RobG endorsed Pack7

v No, we shouldn't
May 16
Mournwolf voted

v Yes, we should
May 16
littlewolf8469 voted

v Yes, we should
May 15
silentrunning endorsed CigarBulldog

v Yes, we should
May 15
Clara007 voted

v No, we shouldn't
May 15

AndrewMC

v No, we shouldn't

NO, we shouldn't! What we SHOULD do is rescue the Electoral College from its usurpation and misuse by, and under, the two party system. The Electoral College exists for many reasons, but those reasons have been pushed aside by the Dem and Rep parties and its usefulness as a part of the over all check and balance system of the Founders has been undercut.

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May 15
harold_lloyd voted

v No, we shouldn't
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May 14
DanielMincin voted

v No, we shouldn't
May 14
GuitarGuy19 voted

v Yes, we should
May 13

DrFunkenstein

v Yes, we should

As it stands, No one's vote counts unless you are in a "swing state" so every year we let Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan decide who is president. Let's go with Popular Vote, if we had it in 2000 then we wouldn't be in near the mess we are right now.

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May 12
rangerjeff voted

v Yes, we should
May 12
Fyi1957 endorsed VisionVI

v No, we shouldn't
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May 11

Gatnos

v No, we shouldn't

Contrary to what the liberals tell us, our form of government is not a "Democracy", it is a Constitutional Republic. The people vote for representatives, who in turn make decisions regarding governmental action. The concept of the Electoral College is in keeping with the Republican Form of government. There is a flaw in the system, however. The number of Electors from each State is equal to the number of Senators and Representatives from each State. That is where the inequality resides. Each State has 2 Senators, but the number of Representatives is determined by the previous census count of the total number of persons in the State. Therefore, the number of Representat...

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May 11
DDouglas voted

v No, we shouldn't
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May 11
songbird voted

v No, we shouldn't
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May 10
LEC endorsed Pack7

v No, we shouldn't
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May 10
hancel voted

v No, we shouldn't
May 9
Companion101 endorsed CigarBulldog

v Yes, we should
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May 9
LilliB voted

v Yes, we should
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May 9
Bill voted

v No, we shouldn't
May 9
looncraz endorsed CigarBulldog

v Yes, we should
May 9
DanielZ endorsed CigarBulldog

v Yes, we should
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May 8
buckleroos endorsed Cheenoguy

v Yes, we should
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May 8
Kcincurrie endorsed CigarBulldog

v Yes, we should
May 7
Reidabsher voted

v No, we shouldn't
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May 7
oldtimer2 endorsed Pack7

v No, we shouldn't
May 7
oldman75 voted

v No, we shouldn't
May 7
ddj8694 voted

v No, we shouldn't
May 7
ZombieMedic voted

v No, we shouldn't
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May 6
gitrdone8383 voted

v Yes, we should
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May 6
headcoach voted

v Yes, we should
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May 6
LibertyWolf voted

v Yes, we should
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May 6
captbigtime endorsed Cheenoguy

v Yes, we should
May 6
PaulUK2901 voted

v Yes, we should
May 6
SgtNFury voted

v No, we shouldn't
May 6
rickv2 endorsed CigarBulldog

v Yes, we should
May 5
Bob72370 voted

v Yes, we should

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May 20

Just_Lisa

v Yes, we should

The thug would have lost. It really dont matter now, with Obama opening the floodgates to anyone illegal, I don't expect anymore votes. Obama will be in as king. For a long. Long. Time.

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May 15

AndrewMC

v No, we shouldn't

NO, we shouldn't! What we SHOULD do is rescue the Electoral College from its usurpation and misuse by, and under, the two party system. The Electoral College exists for many reasons, but those reasons have been pushed aside by the Dem and Rep parties and its usefulness as a part of the over all check and balance system of the Founders has been undercut.

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May 15

Clara007

Sorry, Andrew--not really replying to you but couldn't find the comment area in this new format. The founders didn't have much faith in the American voter. In fact,the first presidents were appointed by elites, not elected by the masses. The Framers felt the popular vote was too reckless and that the typical American voter (white, wealthy, male land owners) were too ignorant to vote. The founders always intended that the states--not the voters--select the president. So are we a democracy or not? If democracy means that every issue is decided by majority vote--then NO. However we do elect (by majority) our representatives who then, in turn, "supposedly" vote thei...

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May 15

AndrewMC

@Clara007 We are supposed to be a republican form of government as opposed to a majority rule democracy. Indeed, there are several levels interposed between the People and the results of popular elections, and I think that is a good thing. What most people don't realize is that the state Electoral College votes are established at the state level, and most states have a "winner take all" system with no apportionment of EC votes. So, if a state has an election with 40% Dem, 30% Rep, and 30% Independent, the states entire EC voting block will go to the party with the largest voter block. Once a state level election is over, the popular vote for President at th...

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May 13

DrFunkenstein

v Yes, we should

As it stands, No one's vote counts unless you are in a "swing state" so every year we let Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan decide who is president. Let's go with Popular Vote, if we had it in 2000 then we wouldn't be in near the mess we are right now.

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May 11

Gatnos

v No, we shouldn't

Contrary to what the liberals tell us, our form of government is not a "Democracy", it is a Constitutional Republic. The people vote for representatives, who in turn make decisions regarding governmental action. The concept of the Electoral College is in keeping with the Republican Form of government. There is a flaw in the system, however. The number of Electors from each State is equal to the number of Senators and Representatives from each State. That is where the inequality resides. Each State has 2 Senators, but the number of Representatives is determined by the previous census count of the total number of persons in the State. Therefore, the number of Representat...

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May 16

ST_Louie_Sue

Sounds logical to me. But how many illegals would admit they are? We're screwed no matter what, again, because of illegals.

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May 3

MaxPain

v No, we shouldn't

if you belong to the GOP and Lost your Winny the answer is yes,If your a democrat and pounced the G0P then your answer is no.Another slow day for the staff of POLITIX.their down to recycling their Trash again.

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May 2

Spirit02

v Yes, we should

After two times an idiot was appointed in 2000 & 2004 despite his opponents legally won. When they get the greedy billionaires who back their puppet to steal the WH even though they lost when Americans chose the other one. Don't pretend W was legally elected either time.

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JTHEM

v No, we shouldn't

There have been too many knee jerk reactions legislated during the past several years. I would like to hope that we think things through before acting on what might seem appropriate in the short term only to determine that it was an ignominious decision later: Examples: No Child Left Behind, creating a federal Departments of Education and HHS, popular election of the president, the Iraq/Afghanistan War, not exercising sovereignty over our borders.......ad nausea.

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May 1

NoAmnestyEVER

v Yes, we should

I'm a Republican living in California, so because of the electoral college my vote is meaningless. Liberals count on causing apathy among conservatives to get idiots like Obama elected, and for the past two elections its worked. A recent study proved that Republicans lost because of white voter apathy, it had nothing to do with Hispanics.

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May 1

TheHandsomeOne

v Yes, we should

One person, one vote, one voice, money COMPLETELY out of politics and drastically improve the ratio of representatives to constiuients to on the order of 1:15,000 instead of today's 1:NEARLY 1,000,000. Today we have less than 1 representative for what was the entire population of the country at it's beginning. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_congressional_apportionment http://preview.tinyurl.com/d5jh799

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Apr 30

whatheheck

v Yes, we should

Totally antiquated system that is blatantly non-democratic. Elections should be decided purely by popular vote.

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Apr 30

jond414

v Yes, we should

Unless ending it will help republicans, then yes let's end it.

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Apr 28

zachsquatch

v Yes, we should

It's a stupid system where the large inner cities trump the votes of the rural areas. This isn't a fair way of doing business.

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Apr 28

Bill2E

v Yes, we should

Duhh, my personal vote should be counted and the winner of the race should have the majority of the popular vote. This would require an act of congress to amend the constitution. It will not happen I'm sure.

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Apr 26

4PeteSake

v Yes, we should

Only if it is eliminated everwhere at once.

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Apr 24

scotta

v Yes, we should

End the college so that every bodies vote counts.

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Feb '13

Timmy

v Yes, we should

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/eliminate-electoral-college-and-institute-alternate-voting-system/TMZ27Bj1 With the electoral college the vote of a person in a less populated state like Wyoming is worth 3.7 votes of someone in a more heavily populated state like Texas or California is worth. Conversely a persons vote from a high population state is worth 3/11ths of the vote of a person in a low population state.

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Nov '12

AundriaP

v Yes, we should

Yes. Particularly due to the fact that big states, such as California, pretty much determine the outcome of an election...55 electoral votes?! Not right. I would support the electoral college process IF states could break up their electoral votes to make is a more fair process, meaning not simply hand all the votes to one candidate.

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Feb '13

Timmy

I agree with you but not because of your reasoning. California has 55 votes because it is so highly populated. If you look at it from a vote per person view the vote of someone in CA is only worth roughly 3/11ths the vote of someone in Wyoming because states with higher populations get less electoral college votes per person due to the way the electoral college is set up.

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Nov '12

Politicskid

v Yes, we should

It takes the focus off of everybody, and just puts it on people living in a select few states.

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Nov '12

lsmontgomery

v Yes, we should

The Electoral College is based off of the previous census. Not Registered voters, not participating voters. So if only 20% of the registered voters go to the polls in Ohio, it's OK (insert sarcasm here), those 20% get the full weight of the Electoral College behind them, and get to use the dead weight of people who don't, won't, or can't vote to push their way into the White House. Just because a lot of people live there doesn't mean the whole population is choosing to speak for or against a candidate. But the "magic" of the Electoral College makes it look that way. I say use the popular vote. When people want to speak out, voter turn out increases. That should speak ...

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Oct '12

CigarBulldog

v Yes, we should

By ending the Electoral College everybody's vote will count the same. Under the current system if you are a Republican voting in Illinois or a Democrat voting in Idaho you stand little to no chance of your Presidential vote making a difference. If we adopt a strict popular vote for President (like for every other office) then your vote will have the same impact as everyone else regardless of where you live.

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Oct '12

Pack7

v No, we shouldn't

You better think about what you are wishing for. If you elect on popular vote only, then all a candidate would have to do is win the most populous states. The rest of the country would then be subjected to what could amount to the will of people living in those states, leaving a large amount of people without an effective voice in Government. Think about that for a moment. We all need representation and we don't need to be subjected to the will of people living in large States. The Electoral College is not perfect but it is there for a reason. We need to be better informed about why it is there.

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Oct '12

Cheenoguy

v Yes, we should

Your vote should matter whether you live in a swing state or not.

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Oct '12

Mercury34

v Yes, we should

The Electoral College gave us George W. Bush. 'Nuff said.

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Oct '12

ithink2

v No, we shouldn't

No we shouldn't. the electoral college is part of the checks and balances that are integral to our system. We are a federal republic with a representative democracy type government. Each individual is a participant and each state is a participant. As individuals we vote for our representatives to the house and senate. Each state votes for the president. This balances the powers of the individuals and the states. States rights are a big issue in this election. As a 'federalist' I think the stronger each state is the better off our republic is. The electoral college is a part of that system of states rights.

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Oct '12

derekfnord

v Yes, we should

Put simply, "President" is a national office, so it should be voted for at the national level. After all, to elect a statewide office (like Governor or U.S. Senator), it doesn't matter who wins each county (we simply count all the votes in the state). Likewise for President, it shouldn't matter who wins each state (we should simply count all the votes in the nation).

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Oct '12

Speedieg

v Yes, we should

Yes it is time for the direct election of the president by popular vote. If this country is truly that conservative what do the republicans have to fear? This would force the president to work equally with all states and not ignore those that are not of his political party or take for granted those that are.

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Oct '12

XLP

v Yes, we should

It no longer reflects the demographic and high mobility of modern American citizens.

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Oct '12

Furface

v No, we shouldn't

I previously did not care for the Electoral College, however, now I understand why it was implemented. The Electoral College prevents (as best it can) the large states like California and New York from deciding the election of the President. It gives the other state equity and an equal voice in the process. If we went to popular vote, a mere 10 or 12 states would decide the winner. We need to keep the Electoral College.

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Oct '12

FaFoxy

v No, we shouldn't

NO, we shouldn't. The U.S.A. is a FEDERATION of STATES. The STATES made the federal government, NOT the other way around. Doing away with the Electoral College would leave the smaller states, who comprise the MAJORITY of states, virtually with no voice and no power in the U.S. Candidates would only go to the 8 or 10 largest states to campaign. States, in and of themselves, WITHOUT regard to population, have RIGHTS. The Electoral College gives those smaller states a voice, and it should NOT be abolished. And since the majority of states are small, and it would take at least 3/4 of them to agree, it's a virtual impossibility to abolish it, because why would the smaller s...

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