KING: ...FEMA is about to run out of money, and there are some people who say do it on a case-by-case basis and some people who say, you know, maybe we're learning a lesson here that the states should take on more of this role. How do you deal with something like that?
ROMNEY: Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better.
Instead of thinking in the federal budget, what we should cut - we should ask ourselves the opposite question. What should we keep? We should take all of what we're doing at the federal level and say, what are the things we're doing that we don't have to do? And those things we've got to stop doing, because we're borrowing $1.6 trillion more this year than we're taking in. We cannot...
KING: Including disaster relief, though?
ROMNEY: We cannot - we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids. It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we'll all be dead and gone before it's paid off. It makes no sense at all.
How was anything in this post distorted in any way? The source was the GOP Presidential debate of 6/13/11. Granted that looking for wisdom onstage at a GOP debate is a pretty bad idea but you conservatives seemed to like it. Romney's words were Romney's words. They were not taken out of context. How hard do the facts have to hit you in the face before you acknowledge them. Romney thought FEMA is a bad idea and he said so. As is usual with most of conservative ideas they are wrong. Heck of a job Willard.
@bsking The word "hero" is so over used in our society, most heros are not heros, they were just in the right time at the right place. The military is really good at making fake heros, soldiers eat that up and will do anything for a medal.
Just goes to show you how out of touch with the rest of the middle class he is! We pay for insurance, but it takes time to be processed and a check to be cut. If it wasn't for FEMA some would go without food, water, and shelter possibly for weeks at a time. Most of us do not qualify for any assistance anywhere accross the board it is nice when our government is actually helping those who pay the most out! Yes I know FEMA helps those with low incomes, but my point is those people get help everyday most of us do not. Turning this over to the private sector would be like throwing people to the wolves. I don't know about anyone else's state, but the state of Ohio does not have the funds for this kind thing to be set into motion.
Then perhaps you should look at our government in general. If all these representatives of our wouldn't steal from the funds our money goes to then we would have it for an emergency. It's not a right or left thing.
@PNWest Romney is in favor of cutting out the bureacracy in FEMA. If you had been hit by hurricane IKE on the Gulf Coast you would know what that means. If you had seen the environmentalist take over parts of FEMA concerning the temporary trailers for housing you would understand. People were living outdoors because environmentalists deemed the trailers unfit to live in. Government control of much emergency response is politically controlled as we saw Barack Husssein Obama do to Texas concerning wildfires and hurricanes. We need to strip out the top heavy bureacracy and do it right.
@seedtick Ike hit Galveston on 9/13/2008. In case you don't remember the President at that time was GW Bush. Clearly he was too incompetent to handle the job properly. The environmentalists never took over parts of FEMA during the Bush administration. And didn't you guys get hit harder by Rita than Ike?
@PNWest Rita tore my world apart. Ike, though, did more damage than Rita, just not in my area. Ike's storm surge covered everything south of Interstate10 from Lake Charles, LA to Houston and everything within 20 miles of the coast around Galveston. There were very few high spots that did not flood during Ike. We got great help from FEMA during Rita and Ike. But, after Rita, the first help we got was from Wal-Mart and the Baptist Men's group. Wal-Mart trucks rolled in and set up at a large Baptist Church before the winds completely died down. They distributed ice, water, and food. FEMA was there about 2 hrs later. They set up at a local high school and had National Guard troops passing out ice and water. The difference in Rita and Katrina was that the Governors declared emergencies in time for FEMA to respond quickly ahead of Rita. Before Katrina, Louisiana's silly Governor Blanco refused to declare an emergency so federal aid could be brought in quickly. Her reasoning was that she did not want "her National Guard" to be controlled by Bush who even personally called her in the last hours before Katrina hit. She would not relent. But, that would not have stopped the flooding of New Orleans and the trapping of so many in the Lower 9th Ward. Those folks were trapped because of dumb Mayor Ray Nagin. The FEMA relief was brought to around Alexandria, Louisiana and then could not get to New Orleans because of flooding. Bush did nothing wrong except failing to ignore Blanco and doing what he needed to do.
@seedtick No HEB around there? In Houston HEB was open with emergency lights right after Ike came through and helped the communities to get back on track greatly. They brought in the right kind of supplies and didn't gouge the public. Walmart too. FEMA was there and everyone pulled together. I hate seeing these kinds of tragedies politicized. When you are sitting in the dark in 90 degree heat with no idea when the power is coming back you really don't give a crap about red or blue.
@Zoe2012 Romney's statements are on video, not taken out of context in any way shape or form. What problem do you have with her reporting the fact that the story is trending on various liberal sites. What difference does that make? It's not Politix Mary's fault that Romney hates FEMA.
And those who failed to evacuate after ample warning was given are who's problem again? Ray Nagan's, then Mayor of New Orleans who blatantly tried to make the Katrina response a race issue, or the Governor of Louisiana or President Bush.
Check out the National Response plan. Federal response was with in guidelines. Most do not understand that per the NRP(national response plan) you are required to self sustaining for at least 7 2hours. 3 days before help to get to you. That means you have to be responsible for yourself. Hard for most democrats and liberals to understand much less fathom the concept. But 72 hours is reasonable to me.
What is really immoral is financing 40% of our governments cost to future generations. But then I think our generation should fund our government. No generation has stolen from future generations like ours has for the last 10 years.
The way I see it is, were we better off before FEMA? FEMA hasn 't been around that long. When the floods hit the Mississippi River in '72, there was no FEMA. The emergency was handled by the National Guard and private charities. I was out sandbagging every day. It was well organized and well run. When the floods hit again in '86, FEMA was a joke. The Bozos from FEMA should have stayed out of the way. When they hit again in '92, FEMA provided support to the locals who ran the operations. That worked well with FEMA not getting too involved. So from my experience, I can see the country getting along nicely without FEMA.
@idlbeokay_bob I have never and never will.I am very happy taking care of myself,thank you. I understand that may be difficult for some to understand.It's okay, we all can't be responsible, what would the left do with no victims?
@bsking After 9/11 FEMA was there for the victims and I for one was happy they were there to help. Here after several hurricanes and an oil spill a lot of people needed it. I have never made any claims and hopefully never will.
Why are we discussing Romney when the Senate isn't passing the funding we need right now? "In June the Republican-controlled House passed a bill that would give FEMA an additional $1 billion for this fiscal year and increase the agency’s funds by $700 million for fiscal year 2012. The bill reduces grants for clean-energy vehicles in order to make up for the additional disaster relief funds — a move the Democrat-controlled Senate does not support and has not passed." http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/08/...
Realthinker, you need to read your own article (the link you posted) more closely. The reason that this bill could not get passed at the time was not directly due to the "Democratic controlled Senate", but according to the blog article, the person quoted says directly in this piece that the problem in getting this bill passed was that house Republicans were requiring cuts to offset the additional money being appropriated to FEMA. The House Republicans weren't just willing to give the money to FEMA that they needed to cover disasters THAT HAD ALREADY HAPPENED. They required that money be cut from somewhere else to offset that expense and they were threatening to shut down the government if the senate Democrats didn't sign. Oh, and the Senate did get FEMA the money, you need to keep up, http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers... , in fact more than the house wanted to give.
So he will save our children's future by not spending federal tax dollars on disaster relief, but rather force states to use state tax dollars on disaster relief, or better yet, let private industry pass the cost of disaster relief onto consumers?
@Bleeding_Blue But most of it was the incompetency of Nagin and his sorry bunch!.. Blamin' Bush again, huh? Not surprised " Bleeding_ Blue" , no one with a poster name like that will ever take responsibility, even when it's their party in the wrong , so typical. BTW--- Nagin was a Dem. and an incompetent Mayor , to say the least. Anyway, it's a real bad storm, so stay safe!
@Fishbone345 from the get go. This is a man who forced out a community loved DA Harry Connick Sr. and replaced him with the most corrupt piece of sh!t New Orleans ever saw Eddie Jordan. He did I based on race, because he wanted a "chocolate city" and ended up spitting on the legacy of Harry. That man funneled city funds into the casino's and away from the much needed ailing transportation and Levy's. Then he attempted to blame everyone but himself. He has the blood of all those dead in the city and I sincerely hope there is a hell for him to burn in. Don't defend that man, he is undeserving. Mimi is right on.
@Fishbone345 I'm not disputing this. Mimi made the charge that FEMA failed. I was simply pointing out the failure of FEMA, wasn't the group, but Bush's poor response time, and the moron Bush placed in charge of it. Nagin was part of the over all failure as well, but again that wasn't the point I was making.
"Should FEMA be shut down, and its responsibilities given to the states?" Yes, that seems a reasonable stance, each state could decide for itself what it's needs are rather than a capricious government deciding just who does and does not get relief. I do believe we all saw the D states getting faster and better relief from this president, something I had never noticed under other R or D presidents, but Obama did seem to want to punish the R states, he seems to take it personally if one has a differing opinion.
The liberal media completely ignores the report that requests for support in Libya were denied 3 times. As a result, our fellow Americans were murdered. The administration & the mainstream media ignore it. Instead, they report stuff like this. Or they report how Romney is hurting the hurricane relief efforts by donating a bus to deliver supplies to relief centers. Does anyone else see the clear bias here? I just don't understand it.
@pezcore64 I'm pretty sure that the families of those who were murdered "just don't understand it" either. And I don't think that bringing up the media coverage (or lack thereof) of embassy attacks during the Bush administration will make them feel any better.
The states should be given the lead to help themselves. If the people of New Orleans had more control over their own fates I guarantee Katrina would not have been the fiasco it turned into. As a cynic I cant help but to think those in the path of Sandy are lucky it's an election year. The Federal government will be more proactive than ever because this is a campaign bonanza for a sitting president if handled correctly.