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The Electoral College

@Nov '12 c 271 comments V 451 votes

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bushMaster63 endorsed Speedieg

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Gatnos

v The Electoral College

The United States is a Republic, not a Democracy.

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DrSilicon voted

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fraps endorsed Lpguy

v The Electoral College
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DanielZ endorsed Speedieg

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The_Bald_Guy endorsed Lpguy

v The Electoral College
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GodlessLiberal voted

v Popular Vote
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martydotcom

v Popular Vote

What could be a purer form of Democracy than 1 man one vote

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Fyi1957 endorsed Speedieg

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Wafflecone

v Popular Vote

after all, it is a popularity contest

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URBS endorsed Speedieg

v Popular Vote
May 12

Aftermath

v Popular Vote

Anytime in an election, when the person that gets the most votes is not the winner, then there is cheating going on and I don't care which side you are for. The man or woman with the most votes should be the winner. Every time.

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May 11

SuperBeast

v Popular Vote

The Electoral college is a scam. Its just another way that they take the power away from the American people.

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May 11
LossforWRDS707 voted

v The Electoral College
May 10
kilo89 endorsed Speedieg

v Popular Vote
May 9

N0rthman

v The Electoral College

Imperfect as it is, the electoral college sure is a lot better than mob rule.

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May 9

RedFloppyShoes

v The Electoral College

Otherwise, the 10 most populated centers of the USA will dictate all elections. A majority of those cities with the exception of Dallas and Houston are majority Liberal-leaning.

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Avoicenmany voted

v The Electoral College
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Big_jeff voted

v Popular Vote
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pmonteen voted

v Popular Vote
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Russell797 endorsed Speedieg

v Popular Vote
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Fallstaff voted

v The Electoral College
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Michael_Taylor endorsed Speedieg

v Popular Vote
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scotta

v Popular Vote

Sometimes the Popular vote goes to the oposit person than the electoral college

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May 4
jeffreyknee voted

v The Electoral College
May 4

PJS1973

v Popular Vote

The electoral college was created to overcome a technological handicap. We have the capability for a popular vote and should do one.

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May 4

JesusLivesInMe

v The Electoral College

The process for presidency was designed in such a way that allows for each area to have a say without the bigger cities, or bigger states having the win automatically. Our Founding Fathers didn't want a democracy (majority rules) because they had enough wisdom to understand that such way of thinking leads to dictatorship and ultimately enslavement. So they formed this Nation on a "Constitutional Republic" which says that each individual has a say and not automatically the 'majority. And that's why they formed the voting process the way they did.

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May 3

harold_lloyd

v The Electoral College

The system works pretty well, and any attempt to change it will unleash the worst of the crooks and corruptors, trying to bias the system in their favor.

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May 3
Randolf endorsed Speedieg

v Popular Vote
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IMAQT endorsed Buzzfriendly

v The Electoral College
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gherlone voted

v The Electoral College
May 1

TheHandsomeOne

v Popular Vote

And the people should only vote for the president with second place getting vice president.... and no more of this two party BS.

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Deste66 voted

v Popular Vote
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FatTony14 endorsed Speedieg

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chiefevans706 voted

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treedcat25 endorsed GetAwake

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JimCO55 endorsed Litdes

v The Electoral College
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AndrewMC endorsed Lpguy

v The Electoral College
Apr 30

Bill2E

v Popular Vote

Our county should be our country. My personal vote is only one, but it is very important to the process.

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Apr 30
mudpike voted

v The Electoral College
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PaulBartomioli endorsed Lpguy

v The Electoral College
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darkmoonman endorsed Speedieg

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4PeteSake

v Popular Vote

The Electoral College has outlived its usefulness.

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Apr 30

Angry_man

v Popular Vote

Maybe that would keep morons like oblaima from destroying America

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loganrollo voted

v Popular Vote
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GuitarGuy19 endorsed Speedieg

v Popular Vote
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Remember2Wipe endorsed Speedieg

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Gatnos

v The Electoral College

The United States is a Republic, not a Democracy.

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martydotcom

v Popular Vote

What could be a purer form of Democracy than 1 man one vote

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Wafflecone

v Popular Vote

after all, it is a popularity contest

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Aftermath

v Popular Vote

Anytime in an election, when the person that gets the most votes is not the winner, then there is cheating going on and I don't care which side you are for. The man or woman with the most votes should be the winner. Every time.

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fraps

We have a system in place that chooses the individuals that actually vote for the president and vice president. The president is chosen when a majority of those individuals pick him. The problem we have with the system in place is that many of those who choose the members of the Electoral College have no skin in the game. Voting should be limited to avoid some groups of people. One example is people under the age of 50 who do not pay taxes should not have the right to vote. That single restriction would start to clean things up immediately.

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Aftermath

@fraps I agree!

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May 11

SuperBeast

v Popular Vote

The Electoral college is a scam. Its just another way that they take the power away from the American people.

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May 9

N0rthman

v The Electoral College

Imperfect as it is, the electoral college sure is a lot better than mob rule.

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May 9

RedFloppyShoes

v The Electoral College

Otherwise, the 10 most populated centers of the USA will dictate all elections. A majority of those cities with the exception of Dallas and Houston are majority Liberal-leaning.

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May 5

scotta

v Popular Vote

Sometimes the Popular vote goes to the oposit person than the electoral college

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May 4

PJS1973

v Popular Vote

The electoral college was created to overcome a technological handicap. We have the capability for a popular vote and should do one.

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May 4

JesusLivesInMe

v The Electoral College

The process for presidency was designed in such a way that allows for each area to have a say without the bigger cities, or bigger states having the win automatically. Our Founding Fathers didn't want a democracy (majority rules) because they had enough wisdom to understand that such way of thinking leads to dictatorship and ultimately enslavement. So they formed this Nation on a "Constitutional Republic" which says that each individual has a say and not automatically the 'majority. And that's why they formed the voting process the way they did.

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May 3

harold_lloyd

v The Electoral College

The system works pretty well, and any attempt to change it will unleash the worst of the crooks and corruptors, trying to bias the system in their favor.

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May 1

TheHandsomeOne

v Popular Vote

And the people should only vote for the president with second place getting vice president.... and no more of this two party BS.

B1

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Apr 30

Bill2E

v Popular Vote

Our county should be our country. My personal vote is only one, but it is very important to the process.

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Apr 30

4PeteSake

v Popular Vote

The Electoral College has outlived its usefulness.

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Apr 30

Angry_man

v Popular Vote

Maybe that would keep morons like oblaima from destroying America

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May 5

RoyFloyd

No it wouldn't, given that Obama won the popular vote both times, but it would have kept moron W from destroying America after he lost the popular vote in 2000.

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Apr 28

BossTweed

v The Electoral College

It must be by Electoral College or the Urban Slums will be the only votes that matter. That would lead to a Civil War which most think isn't a great plan.

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Apr 28

NoAmnestyEVER

v Popular Vote

The electoral college is NOT democracy. Even if a loser like Barack Obama is elected by popular vote I could get behind it if that is the true will of the American people. By the same token Executive Order by the president should be made illegal. That's just a fancy word for dictatorship.

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Feb '13

Timmy

v Popular Vote

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/eliminate-electoral-college-and-institute-alternate-voting-system/TMZ27Bj1 With the electoral college people in densely populated states have a vote that is only worth roughly 3/11ths of the vote of someone in a state that is less densely populated

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Dec '12

bman93

v The Electoral College

If the Electoral College is unfair, then so is the US House of Represenatives and the US Senate. We are not a direct-democracy but a democratic-republic. We are represented by two Senators and however many Congressmen we have. The people who represent me in Congress, I have strong disagreements with them and they don't vote the way in Congress that I would like to vote. But it is fair because the people within my state voted for them to represent. The Electoral College is still based on the Popular Vote- WITHIN the state. In 2012 I voted for Romney. I'm from New York and I knew he wouldn't win here, but I accept the fact that the 29 electoral votes went to the opposing...

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Dec '12

CommonSense

v Popular Vote

Popular Vote, and let's get rid of winner-take-all as well to eliminate the spoiler effect and open up the system to 3rd parties. We need an instant run-off/single-transferable vote voting system.

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Nov '12

Speedieg

v Popular Vote

It should be by popular vote, everyone's vote would count. It would also force candidates to address the whole country and not just focus on a few states to get to enough electoral votes.

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Nov '12

Lpguy

v The Electoral College

This is the better method of electing President of our republic. The founders wanted to limit democracy as much as possible because the demand of the majority can become arbitrary or oppressive. "the system was designed to select the most qualified individual to head the executive branch of government, rather than to select a candidate who represented some citizens more than others." (Holcombe, 2000) The electoral college also attempts to give the less populous states and rural areas a more equal footing in choosing their president. I personally do not like either of these choices, i think a better system abounds if we seek it out. Randall G. Holcombe, "Origins of the...

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Nov '12

ProudLiberal

v Popular Vote

A large group of people representing states do not represent the multitude of views within states. It's unfair how we prefer to think that a group of people, possibly politicians, represent the will of the people.

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Nov '12

GetAwake

v Popular Vote

There was once a legitimate need for the Electoral College...just like there was once a need for the Pony Express. While they probably couldn't get an accurate-tally of the popular vote together in the time that the media fabricates one for election night-programming, they could surely have every vote counted by the weekend...the following Tuesday at the latest. The EC doesn't get together until the third week in December, anyway. The only group that would suffer would be the Mainstream-Media outlets, so THERE'S an added bonus right off of the bat...

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Nov '12

Buzzfriendly

v The Electoral College

It's a matter of fairness and the genius of our founding fathers. It prevents New York and LA from electing the president every four years. A lot of people think this isn't fair, why should rural populations get a larger say than urban populations? But consider this, more than half of the US population lives in major cities. If we were to go to a popular vote system where whoever got the most votes won the election outright, why would any presidential candidate care about what happens in rural states? You could win an election just by advocating policies that matter for people that live in cities. Ultimately even if there was a reason to go away from the electoral col...

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Nov '12

USCITIZEN

v Popular Vote

It is "We the People" who ordain and establish the Constitution for the United States of America. So I believe that We the People, as a whole, and not some electoral college should determine who our next President of the United States is to be.

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Nov '12

WMCOL

v The Electoral College

Popular vote is too much like mob rule, the very thing our system is designed to guard against. Electoral vote is representative or indirect democracy.

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Nov '12

FaFoxy

v The Electoral College

Firstly, despite a widespread misconception, there is NO federal "RIGHT TO VOTE". The right to vote is strictly up to the states to provide if they wish to do so. Now if you disbelieve me, simply look at the early history of our country, and see how the electors were chosen in the various states in the first 10 (40 years) POTUS elections. Now, BEFORE you say: "Well, the subsequent amendments changed all that !" NO, THEY DIDN'T ! They simply said on what basis a state COULD NOT deny a person the right to vote IF, AND ONLY IF, a state CHOSE TO GRANT a general "right to vote". Study some U.S. Constitutional Law ! (I have done so in college). Secondly, IF the so-called "E...

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Nov '12

Litdes

v The Electoral College

The electoral college, while imperfect ensure that no entire state is marginalized. Keep in mind the nation's most populous city, New York, has a greater population that all but 12 states. Getting rid of the electoral college would effectively concentrate the majority of power in a very few populous states, leaving much of the rest of the country without much in the way of influence.

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Nov '12

JaneDoh

v Popular Vote

I just don't see how as a democratic country doesn't go by majority rule. What happens if only 1000000 people from California vote and they still receive 55 electoral votes. That's crap.

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