pShould the president be chosen by popular vote or the electoral college?

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The Electoral College

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aladinsane endorsed Speedieg

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smbiz voted

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MellowGuy

v The Electoral College

The electoral college is OK, but could be improved. The electors should be picked by lottery. The number of electors should be proportional to the number of citizens of each state excluding illegals.

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HMB1114 voted

v Popular Vote
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Jen13411 endorsed Speedieg

v Popular Vote
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Republiccommi

v Popular Vote

When a few states with the most people get the say its unfair to the smaller groups its time to end the governments bully policies and go for popular votes HEY EVERYONE THIS IS A DISCUSSION SITE what you say will not matter anyways just like our nations voting system

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Philof endorsed Lpguy

v The Electoral College
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BFC12345

v Popular Vote

My vote should count the same as yours

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v The Electoral College
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Surfire117 endorsed ProudLiberal

v Popular Vote
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v The Electoral College
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gammler

v Popular Vote

It seems, to me, that the electoral college is obsolete.

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Jun 3

falco_alba

v Popular Vote

Electoral College invalidates the votes of thousands of people. I personally chose to go back to Ohio to vote because my vote didn't make a whit of difference in Indiana (at the time I was going to school in Indiana). It is conceivable that the President could be elected to office despite not getting over 50% of the popular vote. That is unacceptable.

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Jun 3

Keyjo

v Popular Vote

In 2000, Gore won the popular vote, Bush the Electoral College and the Supreme Court. Think how much better off the United States would be if we used popular vote in 2000! There likely would have been no Iraq war, no tax cuts for the wealthy, and a maintenance of the budget surplus Clinton left us instead of a deficit! Popular vote; hell YES!

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Jun 2

ram84

v Popular Vote

In this past election i saw one the news states being given to Obama after only 37% of votes were counted .....wtf? Popular votes makes most sense.

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Jun 2
miketost endorsed Speedieg

v Popular Vote
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rtoberl voted

v Popular Vote
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LEC endorsed Lpguy

v The Electoral College
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Qavvavak voted

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v Popular Vote
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Rpete endorsed Speedieg

v Popular Vote
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BravoJuliet endorsed Speedieg

v Popular Vote
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Columbus endorsed Speedieg

v Popular Vote
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cpt_chernobyl voted

v Popular Vote
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yngblknstrng endorsed ProudLiberal

v Popular Vote
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DemonsAngel13 endorsed USCITIZEN

v Popular Vote
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Bob_in_Rico voted

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nhlakes endorsed GetAwake

v Popular Vote

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MellowGuy

v The Electoral College

The electoral college is OK, but could be improved. The electors should be picked by lottery. The number of electors should be proportional to the number of citizens of each state excluding illegals.

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Republiccommi

v Popular Vote

When a few states with the most people get the say its unfair to the smaller groups its time to end the governments bully policies and go for popular votes HEY EVERYONE THIS IS A DISCUSSION SITE what you say will not matter anyways just like our nations voting system

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BFC12345

v Popular Vote

My vote should count the same as yours

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gammler

v Popular Vote

It seems, to me, that the electoral college is obsolete.

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Jun 3

falco_alba

v Popular Vote

Electoral College invalidates the votes of thousands of people. I personally chose to go back to Ohio to vote because my vote didn't make a whit of difference in Indiana (at the time I was going to school in Indiana). It is conceivable that the President could be elected to office despite not getting over 50% of the popular vote. That is unacceptable.

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Jun 3

Keyjo

v Popular Vote

In 2000, Gore won the popular vote, Bush the Electoral College and the Supreme Court. Think how much better off the United States would be if we used popular vote in 2000! There likely would have been no Iraq war, no tax cuts for the wealthy, and a maintenance of the budget surplus Clinton left us instead of a deficit! Popular vote; hell YES!

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Jun 16

Republiccommi

What was the war for? Terrorism? No! Control of middle eastern politics? Yes!

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ram84

v Popular Vote

In this past election i saw one the news states being given to Obama after only 37% of votes were counted .....wtf? Popular votes makes most sense.

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May '13

Gatnos

v The Electoral College

The United States is a Republic, not a Democracy.

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May '13

martydotcom

v Popular Vote

What could be a purer form of Democracy than 1 man one vote

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May '13

Wafflecone

v Popular Vote

after all, it is a popularity contest

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May '13

Aftermath

v Popular Vote

Anytime in an election, when the person that gets the most votes is not the winner, then there is cheating going on and I don't care which side you are for. The man or woman with the most votes should be the winner. Every time.

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May '13

fraps

We have a system in place that chooses the individuals that actually vote for the president and vice president. The president is chosen when a majority of those individuals pick him. The problem we have with the system in place is that many of those who choose the members of the Electoral College have no skin in the game. Voting should be limited to avoid some groups of people. One example is people under the age of 50 who do not pay taxes should not have the right to vote. That single restriction would start to clean things up immediately.

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May '13

Aftermath

@fraps I agree!

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May '13

SuperBeast

v Popular Vote

The Electoral college is a scam. Its just another way that they take the power away from the American people.

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May '13

N0rthman

v The Electoral College

Imperfect as it is, the electoral college sure is a lot better than mob rule.

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May '13

RedFloppyShoes

v The Electoral College

Otherwise, the 10 most populated centers of the USA will dictate all elections. A majority of those cities with the exception of Dallas and Houston are majority Liberal-leaning.

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Jun 3

Keyjo

But if the majority of the nation's population leans Liberal, shouldn't the leader reflect that?

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RedFloppyShoes

@Keyjo no, as the large cities are compressed locations and do not represent the views of the other 50% of the USA population and 75% of the land mass of the USA.

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Keyjo

@RedFloppyShoes A "majority" is more than 50%. Land mass is irrelevant.

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May '13

scotta

v Popular Vote

Sometimes the Popular vote goes to the oposit person than the electoral college

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May '13

PJS1973

v Popular Vote

The electoral college was created to overcome a technological handicap. We have the capability for a popular vote and should do one.

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May '13

JesusLivesInMe

v The Electoral College

The process for presidency was designed in such a way that allows for each area to have a say without the bigger cities, or bigger states having the win automatically. Our Founding Fathers didn't want a democracy (majority rules) because they had enough wisdom to understand that such way of thinking leads to dictatorship and ultimately enslavement. So they formed this Nation on a "Constitutional Republic" which says that each individual has a say and not automatically the 'majority. And that's why they formed the voting process the way they did.

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May '13

harold_lloyd

v The Electoral College

The system works pretty well, and any attempt to change it will unleash the worst of the crooks and corruptors, trying to bias the system in their favor.

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Jun 3

Keyjo

Doesn't the E.C kind of do just that?

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harold_lloyd

@Keyjo Better the devil you know...

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May '13

TheHandsomeOne

v Popular Vote

And the people should only vote for the president with second place getting vice president.... and no more of this two party BS.

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Apr '13

Bill2E

v Popular Vote

Our county should be our country. My personal vote is only one, but it is very important to the process.

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Nov '12

Speedieg

v Popular Vote

It should be by popular vote, everyone's vote would count. It would also force candidates to address the whole country and not just focus on a few states to get to enough electoral votes.

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Nov '12

Lpguy

v The Electoral College

This is the better method of electing President of our republic. The founders wanted to limit democracy as much as possible because the demand of the majority can become arbitrary or oppressive. "the system was designed to select the most qualified individual to head the executive branch of government, rather than to select a candidate who represented some citizens more than others." (Holcombe, 2000) The electoral college also attempts to give the less populous states and rural areas a more equal footing in choosing their president. I personally do not like either of these choices, i think a better system abounds if we seek it out. Randall G. Holcombe, "Origins of the...

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Nov '12

ProudLiberal

v Popular Vote

A large group of people representing states do not represent the multitude of views within states. It's unfair how we prefer to think that a group of people, possibly politicians, represent the will of the people.

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Nov '12

GetAwake

v Popular Vote

There was once a legitimate need for the Electoral College...just like there was once a need for the Pony Express. While they probably couldn't get an accurate-tally of the popular vote together in the time that the media fabricates one for election night-programming, they could surely have every vote counted by the weekend...the following Tuesday at the latest. The EC doesn't get together until the third week in December, anyway. The only group that would suffer would be the Mainstream-Media outlets, so THERE'S an added bonus right off of the bat...

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Nov '12

Buzzfriendly

v The Electoral College

It's a matter of fairness and the genius of our founding fathers. It prevents New York and LA from electing the president every four years. A lot of people think this isn't fair, why should rural populations get a larger say than urban populations? But consider this, more than half of the US population lives in major cities. If we were to go to a popular vote system where whoever got the most votes won the election outright, why would any presidential candidate care about what happens in rural states? You could win an election just by advocating policies that matter for people that live in cities. Ultimately even if there was a reason to go away from the electoral col...

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Nov '12

USCITIZEN

v Popular Vote

It is "We the People" who ordain and establish the Constitution for the United States of America. So I believe that We the People, as a whole, and not some electoral college should determine who our next President of the United States is to be.

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Nov '12

JaneDoh

v Popular Vote

I just don't see how as a democratic country doesn't go by majority rule. What happens if only 1000000 people from California vote and they still receive 55 electoral votes. That's crap.

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Nov '12

WMCOL

v The Electoral College

Popular vote is too much like mob rule, the very thing our system is designed to guard against. Electoral vote is representative or indirect democracy.

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Nov '12

FaFoxy

v The Electoral College

Firstly, despite a widespread misconception, there is NO federal "RIGHT TO VOTE". The right to vote is strictly up to the states to provide if they wish to do so. Now if you disbelieve me, simply look at the early history of our country, and see how the electors were chosen in the various states in the first 10 (40 years) POTUS elections. Now, BEFORE you say: "Well, the subsequent amendments changed all that !" NO, THEY DIDN'T ! They simply said on what basis a state COULD NOT deny a person the right to vote IF, AND ONLY IF, a state CHOSE TO GRANT a general "right to vote". Study some U.S. Constitutional Law ! (I have done so in college). Secondly, IF the so-called "E...

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Nov '12

Litdes

v The Electoral College

The electoral college, while imperfect ensure that no entire state is marginalized. Keep in mind the nation's most populous city, New York, has a greater population that all but 12 states. Getting rid of the electoral college would effectively concentrate the majority of power in a very few populous states, leaving much of the rest of the country without much in the way of influence.

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