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No, they shouldn't

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Yes, they should

@Nov '12 c 117 comments V 259 votes

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DrSilicon voted

v No, they shouldn't
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Obsidion voted

v No, they shouldn't
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Jaybird1964 voted

v No, they shouldn't
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Bingo35 endorsed Your_Name_Here

v No, they shouldn't
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RadAuthNat endorsed Your_Name_Here

v No, they shouldn't
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May 14
SlimElmo91 voted

v Yes, they should
May 14

busseja

v No, they shouldn't

Wouldn't that just encourage foreign students at the expense of our own?

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May 12
rangerjeff voted

v No, they shouldn't
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May 12
skspls voted

v No, they shouldn't
May 12
warwil630 voted

v No, they shouldn't
May 12
PaulUK2901 endorsed Thegrif

v No, they shouldn't
May 12
Fyi1957 endorsed mndudester

v No, they shouldn't
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Bill2E endorsed Thegrif

v No, they shouldn't
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HeresSomeTruth voted

v No, they shouldn't
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CaryNickel endorsed Big-R

v No, they shouldn't
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nagydonnac voted

v No, they shouldn't
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LilliB voted

v No, they shouldn't
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May 9
Jimbo voted

v No, they shouldn't
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May 9
kwwb voted

v No, they shouldn't
May 9
JTHEM voted

v Yes, they should
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Roco endorsed Your_Name_Here

v No, they shouldn't
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oldtimer2 endorsed Your_Name_Here

v No, they shouldn't
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May 8
LibertyWolf voted

v No, they shouldn't
May 8

Prime_Meridian

v Yes, they should

CASE BY CASE BASIS. If we are to have this program, then a condition that the HONOR SCIENCE GRADUATES receive a green card should be that they promise to work either in an actual UNFILLED (not especially created for them position) government service position for a given number of years, an educational state institution of higher learning or private industry that supply documentation that they cannot fill the position due to qualified American candidates being unavailable. We also need to carefully vet these foreign honor science grads to avoid any more Tsarnaev-type scenarios.

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May 8

jeffreyknee

v No, they shouldn't

No but it could be made easier if skill they have is really in short supply. Verify that and not the industries hoping to flood labor pool to keep wages down (as in unskilled labor pool, due to birth control misuse).

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May 8

whatheheck

v No, they shouldn't

Why should they? They're no better that anyone else.

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May 7
that1guy voted

v No, they shouldn't
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May 7
Wooky endorsed Thegrif

v No, they shouldn't
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May 6
gitrdone8383 voted

v No, they shouldn't
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May 6
captbigtime endorsed Your_Name_Here

v No, they shouldn't
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Nautilus voted

v No, they shouldn't
May 4

Philof

v No, they shouldn't

No but science grads shouuld b=get very preferencial treatment, after they are interviewed thoroughly to insure they share American values.

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May 4

cdman

v No, they shouldn't

I'm a science major, so what are you going to give me since I'm already a citizen?

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ZombieMedic voted

v No, they shouldn't
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falco_alba endorsed jessejaymes

v Yes, they should
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URBS voted

v Yes, they should
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May 3
fraps voted

v Yes, they should
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buckleroos endorsed Your_Name_Here

v No, they shouldn't
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Envirominer voted

v Yes, they should
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tarakitten endorsed Your_Name_Here

v No, they shouldn't
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May 1
Big_jeff voted

v No, they shouldn't
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songbird voted

v No, they shouldn't
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Deste66 voted

v No, they shouldn't
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earl endorsed Thegrif

v No, they shouldn't
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jimsnoek voted

v No, they shouldn't
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Aaron262 voted

v Yes, they should
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Angry_man endorsed Thegrif

v No, they shouldn't
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DemonsAngel13 endorsed Thegrif

v No, they shouldn't
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kimmie99 voted

v No, they shouldn't
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PaulBartomioli endorsed Thegrif

v No, they shouldn't

May 14

busseja

v No, they shouldn't

Wouldn't that just encourage foreign students at the expense of our own?

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May 8

Prime_Meridian

v Yes, they should

CASE BY CASE BASIS. If we are to have this program, then a condition that the HONOR SCIENCE GRADUATES receive a green card should be that they promise to work either in an actual UNFILLED (not especially created for them position) government service position for a given number of years, an educational state institution of higher learning or private industry that supply documentation that they cannot fill the position due to qualified American candidates being unavailable. We also need to carefully vet these foreign honor science grads to avoid any more Tsarnaev-type scenarios.

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May 8

jeffreyknee

v No, they shouldn't

No but it could be made easier if skill they have is really in short supply. Verify that and not the industries hoping to flood labor pool to keep wages down (as in unskilled labor pool, due to birth control misuse).

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May 8

whatheheck

v No, they shouldn't

Why should they? They're no better that anyone else.

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May 4

Philof

v No, they shouldn't

No but science grads shouuld b=get very preferencial treatment, after they are interviewed thoroughly to insure they share American values.

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May 4

cdman

v No, they shouldn't

I'm a science major, so what are you going to give me since I'm already a citizen?

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Apr 29

Hoosierdaddy

v Yes, they should

These are people we want here, even though as a physics student I would face more competition but that will just make me better

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Apr 29

BossTweed

v No, they shouldn't

No...........Foreign "students" take the places in our Universities of American kids and must be DENIED. Stop the Madness NOW.

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Apr 29

Matt89

v No, they shouldn't

No one should get an "automatic green card".

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seedtick

v No, they shouldn't

If they are recruited and hired by an employer, that employer can sponsor them and they should then be given a green card. There is a process for doing this and it is done all the time. But, automatic green cards are a bad idea.

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Dec '12

Corey

v No, they shouldn't

No this shouldn't even be a debate. At this time in our nation with high unemployment we should be looking within our nation to fill these jobs I'm sure we have the people to fill them. All employers in this country are looking for the cheapest way out instead of wanting to pay a little more for American labor no matter the job that's why we are in decline

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Nov '12

whataGOVwehave

v No, they shouldn't

Because giving them green cards does not mean they are gonna stay here and be productive. When they graduate they are still gonna run straight home and educate others.

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Nov '12

isis2012

v No, they shouldn't

There's something fundamentally wrong if we're worrying about foreign science graduates getting Green Cards. This country needs to fix the educational system so that more american science students graduate and fill the jobs here.

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Nov '12

freeslugs

v Yes, they should

Why not? unless they're terrorists and they're learning how to make bombs, is doesnt really matter

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Nov '12

DrFunkenstein

v No, they shouldn't

We need IMMEDIATE spending in Education to RETRAIN our imbecile work force so we don't have to import millions to do the jobs that Americans are too stupid to do. There are thousands of high paying jobs available TODAY! It's just we don't have enough American scientists to do the jobs. This is a problem caused by both parties. We spend more on Military than most of the top ten countries combined but we are soooooo far behind on EDUCATION. We should be number one but we prefer to waste 5 trillion a decade on military equipment that we will never use while that 5 trillion would have paid for every qualified graduate to go to college for FREE and doubled school budgets. W...

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Nov '12

Mxolisi

v No, they shouldn't

American they have their own science graduates in their Turf why do you want outsidersd ?

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Nov '12

DrFunkenstein

we don't have near enough to staff the jobs available. We will have hundreds of thousands of science jobs in the next decade left unfilled so they are outsourced or insourced by importing foreign science workers. It's pathetic, everyone yells USA #1! when it's actually more like USA #42!

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ajs

v No, they shouldn't

Why? we already pay for their education just like Barry , I mean the president

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Nov '12

DAVE77

v No, they shouldn't

Nothing should be "automatic." There still has to be a process for people to earn the "right" to be here. We give away citizenship like we eat potato chips. Americans forget how many lives have been lost maintaining our right to our citizenship. Too bad there are so many so eager to just throw it away.

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Nov '12

WV_American

Totally agree.

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Nov '12

DAR

v No, they shouldn't

These foreign students come to the United States to get an education in order to make better lives for themselves and their countrymen back home. That's where they need to go...back home. Getting an education should not be used as a way around our immigration laws. They can get in line like everyone else.

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Nov '12

martydotcom

v No, they shouldn't

There should be an expedited process including a security background check available to those with a job offer. Automatic no

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Nov '12

Thegrif

v No, they shouldn't

What? Automatic Green Card? Why? Are we saying that science grads from anywhere else are better than our own homegrown variety science grads. You know its like all of a sudden America thinks its cooler to not be American. Like I told my, now grown and Airborne Ranger son, you can almost guarentee if the majority are doin it, then its wrong. Look at the world around you. In class are the majority straight "A" kids? Nope. The majority of society ain't either. The majority have the numbers and because of that speak the loudest, they will try to make you feel stupid because you are the different one. You stick to what you know, never tire of doing what is right, and reme...

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Nov '12

Your_Name_Here

v No, they shouldn't

Why is this a question? If they want to live here or become citizens, there is a procedure in place to do just that. They should meet requirements and go through the same process as everyone else.

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Nov '12

DARSB

v Yes, they should

Well, maybe not automatic, but it seems counterproductive to let all that education go somewhere else. But we do need these foreign born brains to supplement our own deficits. A recent study of the science standards is American schools found them to range from "mediocre to awful." The reasons? The study found 4: 1. The undermining of evolution through a variety of methods 2. Vague standards that give teachers little guidance. 3. The promotion of âinquiry based learningâ without any guidance to teachers how to implement it. 4. Thereâs not enough math. http://goo.gl/i2ida

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Nov '12

RobertJHarsh

v Yes, they should

Yes. Turns out we are going to need them to keep the economy running. If they stay for 5 years, then they can get citizenship. The US is going to become a country were foreign skilled workers are going to be required so the economy can be maintained. The US will be joining Saudi Arabia, Dubai, and other nations in this requirement.

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Nov '12

Big-R

v No, they shouldn't

I don't believe in automatic, or amnesty citizenship. I think if anyone wants to be a citizen, they should go through the process. Every country in the world has tighter restrictions on citizenship than America. This country is more of a revolving door, than a sovereign nation. But neither the Republicans, or Democrats want to do anything about it. They just want to be the first to give amnesty, so they can steal the Hispanic vote. This is the only way to invade America, slipping through the cracks.

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Nov '12

MongoAPillager

@Thegrif ijust heard that MSNBS,the people that just said obama's recovery plan was working,is laying off 500 people

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Nov '12

Thegrif

@dances-weebles well then tell the teacher unions to can some of these teachers that only became teachers so they would get summers off and only work 185 days a year, and hire better educators. I am shocked all you anti America Americans are still here. If they already do it better somewhere else, then go. Why suffer through being American? Back up and head out.

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Nov '12

MongoAPillager

@dances-weebles yea,if other countrys students are so great why are they willing to beg borrow or steal to go to school here,why do these fantastically schooled childrens countries still live off of American welfare,we have rebuilt, financed or have guarded most of the free world....

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RobertJHarsh

If this were the 1970s, I would agree with you. But let's face the new realities. The majority of Americans are fat, lazy, sloth, arrogant, entitled, and Democratic voters and unfortunately that group is projected to grow over the next 20 years. I have been researching and it appears the accepted norm globally is 40% producer, 60% taker per country. The US will need to try maintain or push over that 40% number in order for the Obama welfare class to maintain their iPhone-level of existence, which is what they are demanding. Although I suspect many could get by on a jitterbug lifestyle but that could possible cause some of that 60% to move over to the 40% producer ...

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Nov '12

mndudester

v No, they shouldn't

I wondering what kind of monetary break these foreigners get while our home grown kids have to pay the full price for an education....

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