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Yes, through taxes & shopping

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Yes, through jobs

@Dec '12 c 303 comments V 1,037 votes

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Toraco voted

v No
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steve2 voted

v Yes, through taxes & shopping
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Greatkaven voted

v Yes, through jobs
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FreelancerFl

v No

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Eliz95 voted

v Yes, through taxes & shopping
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MaryCrum voted

v No
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BudH voted

v Yes, through jobs
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Amy2723 voted

v Yes, through jobs
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9MileTrucking voted

v Yes, through jobs
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lolzgym voted

v Yes, through taxes & shopping
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robbob280

v No

No because these peaple allready get more then the average working man . Free medical free leagle and lot more that the working man has to pay for . That all comes out of our tax money !

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Hannah41 voted

v Yes, through jobs
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sgh7 voted

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Richard22 voted

v Yes, through taxes & shopping
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galt45 voted

v No
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DonMyrick endorsed ir0nw0lfe

v No
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Njorl endorsed attea2d

v No
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doodadson

v No

Most of them use up free health care that we pay for,then they get state aid,then they get free food.Who pays for all this? We as taxpayers do.

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CoreyBairre voted

v Yes, through taxes & shopping
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william7498 voted

v No
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bluelite endorsed WhoYouGot

v Yes, through jobs
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Carach voted

v Yes, through jobs
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Ahzoov

v Yes, through taxes & shopping

Stupid question...should be just a yes or no.

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DmB66 voted

v No
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Politixuser11

v Yes, through taxes & shopping

The presence of undocumented immigrants suppresses wages which means their illegal status hurts the middle class while it helps businesses as they consume goods and services.

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WhiteJack43 voted

v Yes, through jobs
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aledar voted

v Yes, through taxes & shopping
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DesignerLM voted

v No
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DonEros voted

v No
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DamnGunslinger voted

v No
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PaulJ voted

v No
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managirl voted

v No
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RevJdubs endorsed ir0nw0lfe

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fscott777 endorsed attea2d

v No
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happygirl endorsed attea2d

v No
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sillybilly1b voted

v No
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ersiii1958 voted

v Yes, through taxes & shopping
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No_Way voted

v No
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solodad voted

v No
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bat62 voted

v No
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tam406 voted

v No
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mr_green

v Yes, through jobs

Do you wan to pay more for your produce? Do you want to dig ditches in the do it your selfers next project that increases his property value and thus the property taxes? They are a huge drain with the free education and health care that they are able to receive. Does it balance not sure but i know if we had to pay americans and provide the health care as obamacare dictates our produce would more than triple in price. (just thought "triple" sounded good :p)

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DegredWhiteGuy

v No

They do jobs corporations dont want to pay and Americans living wage to perform. Thereby lowering our wage standard. They evade taxes, collect food-stamps, a get free healthcare. Send them home, send them home today.

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Jaxson voted

v No
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lapazjim voted

v No
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tortdog

v Yes, through taxes & shopping

Of course they do. Doesn't mean it is not a violation of the law.

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Zach endorsed WhoYouGot

v Yes, through jobs
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OfficerBob

v No

New Study Says Recent College Grads Likely to be Stuck in Low-Skill Jobs. Why do some members of Congress want to give work permits to 11-18 million illegal aliens? If you against any kind of Amnesty, go to this website and register. Google this: NUMBERSUSA . Once you are registered, go to the "action board"

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DMMc voted

v Yes, through taxes & shopping
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Obsidion voted

v No

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FreelancerFl

v No

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robbob280

v No

No because these peaple allready get more then the average working man . Free medical free leagle and lot more that the working man has to pay for . That all comes out of our tax money !

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doodadson

v No

Most of them use up free health care that we pay for,then they get state aid,then they get free food.Who pays for all this? We as taxpayers do.

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Ahzoov

v Yes, through taxes & shopping

Stupid question...should be just a yes or no.

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Politixuser11

v Yes, through taxes & shopping

The presence of undocumented immigrants suppresses wages which means their illegal status hurts the middle class while it helps businesses as they consume goods and services.

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mr_green

v Yes, through jobs

Do you wan to pay more for your produce? Do you want to dig ditches in the do it your selfers next project that increases his property value and thus the property taxes? They are a huge drain with the free education and health care that they are able to receive. Does it balance not sure but i know if we had to pay americans and provide the health care as obamacare dictates our produce would more than triple in price. (just thought "triple" sounded good :p)

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DegredWhiteGuy

v No

They do jobs corporations dont want to pay and Americans living wage to perform. Thereby lowering our wage standard. They evade taxes, collect food-stamps, a get free healthcare. Send them home, send them home today.

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tortdog

v Yes, through taxes & shopping

Of course they do. Doesn't mean it is not a violation of the law.

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OfficerBob

v No

New Study Says Recent College Grads Likely to be Stuck in Low-Skill Jobs. Why do some members of Congress want to give work permits to 11-18 million illegal aliens? If you against any kind of Amnesty, go to this website and register. Google this: NUMBERSUSA . Once you are registered, go to the "action board"

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May 16

wde01

v No

Calling illegal aliens "undocumented immigrants" is like calling a pimp an "undocumented human resources manager" or a bank robber an "undocumented financial withdrawal specialist". No, illegal aliens do not contribute to the economy; they drain the lifeblood from it like vampires.

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May 15

Subway142

v Yes, through jobs

You can say all you want about the unemployment rate in this country, but you know that the great majority of the unemployed would not be willing to take a job in landscaping or farm labor, and if no one is willing to take those jobs, they don't get done.

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May 14

jessejaymes

v No

This isn't even defensible. The numbers are clear. We pay for illegals in our health insurance, our car insurance, our grocery bill, our schools, our policing, welfare benefits for their children and on and on and on. There is no way that people working under the table in large part and paying no taxes by the millions can surpass that expense. Further every single illegal sends much of their money back home and that never reenters the USA economy. It's just not defensible to claim they are not a detriment to the USA.

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May 13

griffco

v No

They are ILLEGAL residents..Most of them ,if they can get a job get PAID under the table. What they buy adds little to the tax system. In Massachusetts where i live they get all kind of benefits. Our Governor puts all illegals on a equal pedestal with the legal citizens, and we the legal ones Must pay for there benefits that are given to them. I am moving out of here soon and going to the best State that does not cater to the illegals through the tax system. Arizona!!

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May 13

Seanwongng

v Yes, through jobs

Although you may say illegals are stealing jobs, however illegals maybe paid significantly less than citizens allowing employers to save money reinvesting the capital elsewhere. These people need food, clothes ect therefore buy items in the U,S. stimulating the economy,

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May 15

INVIKTUS

Utterly retarded analysis. They are dragging the nation down to the exact same third world standards from which they fled. They may work more cheaply, but is that good in the long run? It is certainly not good for the natives working in similar industries. We have already proven that we can manage vibrant and self-reliant economies where even the lowest grade worker receives wages enough to provide him with a reasonable standard of life. This has all gone to the wind since the advent of the coolie invasion and the globalist fetish.

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May 18

Seanwongng

@INVIKTUS You are claiming if they work cheaper their quality of work will be poorer? However if that was the case they will get fired and replaced... And these illegals are taking jobs that most american refuse to even perform, resulting in welfare checks... You know what is funny is that most companies in the U.S. outsource jobs into countries like mexico and china... where they will build your iphones and xbox... With cheaper labor jobs and factories can stay in the U.S. My analysis is based on common sense and i find you to be ignorant, calling me retarded... I respect your opinion but i disagree...

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INVIKTUS

@Seanwongng I didn't call you retarded, I said that your analysis was. Do you honestly expect Westerners to celebrate the outsourcing of their jobs? Shall we rejoice that illegals are helping to further decimate the 'living wage?' It is a terrible situation that is very complex. What is real though, is that Westerners are getting the raw end of the deal and that needs to change rapidly.

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May 13

metre

v Yes, through taxes & shopping

and through jobs that they often pay into the system through.

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May 14

NoAmnestyEVER

Do you mean the jobs they steal from American workers the fraudulent ID? Or the jobs that provide them with money that's wired out of the U.S. economy and back to Mexico?

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May 12

MikeC

v Yes, through jobs

Of course they add to the economy because they work and they pay taxes. Yes, they pay sales tax, gasoline tax, cigarette tax...

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May 14

NoAmnestyEVER

Under that definition, so does every rapist, murderer and pedophile who's not in jail.

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May 12

davenc

v Yes, through taxes & shopping

Are you kidding?? Lawn service would crumble, construction would all but stop, and Sundays at the mall would be pretty empty. Immigrants, especially Hispanic immigrants, even if illegal, have helped our economy grow for at least the past 40 years. Let's give them a path to legal status and move on to more important issues. After all, no one asked the Europeans to invade, kill, and force North and South America to change language, location and religion.

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NoAmnestyEVER

Dave, if you're so anti LEGAL European immigrant, why don't you pack up your bags to move back to Europe?

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May 12

jerder

v Yes, through jobs

Yes they do by taking some jobs that most Americans, sadly, feel are beneath them like roofing, road construction, yard work,working on huge fruit and vegatable farms, and as maids. Although there are thousands of carpenters and general construction workers that do not have a college educations who would take jobs in carpentry and general construction who are on welfare or living in poverty because even those jobs are being taken by Hispanics. I still DO NOT believe in rewarding illegals with a free ride or a quick route to citizenship.

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May 12

nobodyspecial

v No

On the surface you could argue they contribute, but considering the "whole enchilada" they weaken the economy and our nations moral fiber (law breakers should not be considered for citizenship).

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May 12

Catfish

v No

It's way pass time to start mass deportation. Ship them back were they came from. Save America, America first. Save real American people.

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attea2d

v No

The economic and social consequences of illegal immigration are staggering. Illegal aliens have cost billions of taxpayer-funded dollars for medical services. Immigration is a net drain on the economy; corporate interests reap the benefits of cheap labor, while taxpayers pay the cost. $60 billion dollars are earned by illegal aliens in the U.S. each year. One of Mexico's largest revenue streams (after exports and oil sales) consists of money sent home by legal immigrants and illegal aliens working in the U.S. This is a massive transfer of wealth from America - essentially from America's displaced working poor - to Mexico."

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Mar '12

MarshallFitz K

Director of Immigration Policy, Center for American Progress

v Yes, through taxes & shopping

Immigrants, including those who lack legal status, are vital to the nationâs economic growth and prosperity. Not only are they hard workers, tax payers, and job creators, they are also consumers who help drive demand. Undocumented immigrants, however, cannot realize their (and, in turn, our) full economic potential because their mobility is constrained by their lack of status. If we enacted legislation enabling them to earn legal status, they would become even more productive economic actors and would help add a cumulative $1.5 trillion to the nationâs GDP over 10 years.

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Jun '12

MarkJM

v No

The little that they do pay through sales taxes is easily taken over by the vast amounts they receive in entitlement benefits (which is scary that we even give them entitlement benefits). Illegal Aliens actually cost US Taxpayers Billions every year while they only contribute a trickle of that. Overall, they're a blight on the economy, overall quality of life, and the USA as a whole. Until we as a nation get tough on illegal alien cockroaches, this infestation won't go away. The best way to do this is (1) E-Verify for employment and (2) E-Verify when going to apply for government benefits. No more WIC, Welfare, Food Stamps, Medicaid, and other entitlements for Illegals...

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WhoYouGot

v Yes, through jobs

They help through jobs. Yes you may say that if thats the case, they are stealing jobs from legal citizens. But where do they spend that money? Lot of it goes back into the economy. And they also are willing to take riskier jobs that no one else wants.

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Apr '12

ir0nw0lfe

v No

While some illegals having working papers, ridiculous as that sounds, many are paid under the table and undercut jobs that should go to legal citizens. And yes they are a drain on resources

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Jun '12

LeslieAbi

v Yes, through jobs

I am from South Texas and personally know many undocumented immigrants and I can say yes they do and no they don't at the same time. They don't because they don't pay taxes, their kids can legally go to our public school and they don't have to pay for it. They do because down here, in all honesty, who wants to dig holes by hand all day in 110 degree heat? Not lazy Americans I know that. There are good and bad in both, it's just the bad give all of them a bad reputation and it's not fair but who is to be the judge of who is good and who is bad? Too many and not enough man-power.

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Mar '12

Crates

v Yes, through taxes & shopping

Not only do they pay sales taxes, they pay on Social Services taxes that they will never see.

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Jun '12

Goebel

v Yes, through taxes & shopping

Both "Yes" answers are correct. Illegal immigrants do high-labour jobs at a higher rate than US citizens. Look at what happened in Arizona when illegals fled the state in mass: their crops started failing. Aside from that, illegals still pay all of the standard taxes that Americans pay.

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Jun '12

Bobolinsky

v No

They are a NET drain. But that's beside the point. . I take offense at the implication that the United States does not have a right that every other nation on Earth seems to have, and that's the right to decide who can and cannot enter. . Fences/walls meant to keep things in have a very different meaning than those meant to keep things out. . That's the easiest way to judge a nation's government. Do people want to enter or exit?

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Jenperu

v Yes, through jobs

As far as I have seem and everywhere I go, I always see Latinos working really hard for their money. Granted, in some cases like most hotels or restaurant they have papers. In others, like cleaning services, farming and a bunch of other industries that require ha

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