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Gun Store: No Obama Voters, Please

If you voted for the POTUS, "turn around and leave"

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by Mary Noble

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Image: Phoenix New Times

An Arizona gun shop owner has put his money where his political convictions are, and is refusing to sell firearms to anyone who voted for President Obama.

Cope Reynolds, the owner of Southwest Shooting Authority in Pinetop, AZ, posted the ad pictured above in the White Mountain Independent. He's also displaying a notice on his shop door saying, "if you voted for Obama, please turn around and leave! You have proven that you are not responsible enough to own a firearm!"

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    Sonny
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    Well, if this guy wants to openly discriminate---Then perhaps he needs to be taken to court. Over, and over, and over again...And then the state needs to impose fines on him. And then his business needs to be boycotted & picketed. And then---(since he wants nothing to do with Obama voters)--when his store if buglarized...the police should offer NO help...And then...everyone who supplies him ANYTHING at all (should NOT do business with him)...In short assholes like him need to be put out of business!
  • Zazziness
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    @Sonny Naw. It really is his right to be childish in public. There doesn't need to be any more consequences than ignoring him. :-)
  • John_Matrix
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    They are, Obama is a clear threat to the principles this country was founded on. On top of that it's his business and he can run it how he sees fit, for now anyway. Remember the words of Samuel Clemens, "Patriotism is always supporting your country, and your government when it deserves it."
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  • cynic
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    @Sonny Obama voters are a protected class in your mind?

    It’s their business. There is nothing illegal about refusing to do business with someone that voted for Obama. If you’ve been paying attention you’ll know unemployment will rise slightly next month. Stocks are down. Many businesses are reorganizing to utilize fewer full time workers and more part time workers. How much damage does Obama need to do before you denounce him as your messiah?
  • Zazziness
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    @cynic Why do Republicans so often use the phrase "messiah" or "God" when speaking of our president? I've never met anyone who looks at the presidency that way but the number of conservatives who speak as though our President is a combination of fairy godmother and chief priest is really disturbing.
  • cynic
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    @Zazziness Why do you assume I’m a Republican? The truly amazing part is fools voted for him despite the damage done do our nation. Did you get your free Obama phone?
  • Zazziness
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    @cynic Because Republicans seem to contain the group that mistake our president for a deity. And they also are the group that buys any talking point presented to them, like anyone who isn't against Obama is getting paid. (A ridiculous notion but one embraced by the gullible.)
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    Litdes
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    So, let me get this straight. They have released a statement that they will not accept customers who voted for Obama, while admitting that there is no way whatsoever for them to know who has done so? This isn't a very bright business move, as all it does is alienate potential customers, who did vote for Obama, but do not wish to patronize an imbecile. Unless, of course, they are banking upon a political uproar, where the gun dealers double down on their rhetoric that Obama is out to sweep through and take everyone's guns, despite the fact that there is no evidence, whatsoever to support such an assertion.
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    Zoe2012
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    Well an Obama voter could walk in and lie, they are used to lying. A normal Obama voter would stay away but the problem is, there are no normal ones.
  • Rocker
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    Perhaps. But Obama signed legislation that legalizes carrying guns in parks and states that he believes that more rigorous enforcement of current gun laws to be needed. Maybe not gun friendly but not anti-gun either.
    Must be some other reason..........
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    Zoe2012
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    @Zazziness Sure I mean what I state. Democratic voters for the most part are not bright and the majority are lazy, thinking they will get something for nothing at the expense of the demise of the United States. I believe that it is a party of misfits!
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  • Zazziness
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    Yup. It's those type comments that lost the hearts and minds of the American people and therefore lost the election for the Republicans. You guys never learn, do you?
  • FFX_VA
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    In this economy business & politics don't mix. But if he thinks this will help his business more power to him. Personally I think he's a fool.
  • Denizen_Kate
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    @FFX_VA - " ... if he thinks this will help his business ... " It probably will. He lives in a little po-dunk town in a very RED state.
  • FFX_VA
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    @Denizen_Kate So it's like Santa saying no candy canes for elves who voted for the Easter Bunny as their favorite mythical character. Got it.
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  • stepped_in_it
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    OK, "Discrimination lawsuit"? So, this gun owner isn't selling because of race, color, religion, sex, national origin or age? Besides, in my America, a store owner has the right to refuse service to anyone (as long as the reason isn't one of those 6 items). I know it's "sour grapes" and extremely stupid on his part, but, "Discrimination lawsuit"?
  • PuroChorizo361
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    @stepped_in_it That's discrimination in hiring somebody/workplace , and yes while a business has a right to refuse service to someone I would think it would be for something more serious than who a person votes for.
  • stepped_in_it
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    @PuroChorizo361 I agree with the "business" statement, but, please explain who (besides a voter) was discriminated against? If I, as a business owner, decide to say "no service" to people who wear blue (because I hate the color blue), it's not discrimination.....it's stupidity! But, that is my right!
  • stepped_in_it
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    @PuroChorizo361 "treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit" SO, voting for Obama is ....what....a group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs? Jeez, seems to me YOU are discriminating against me because I don't think it's discrimination! We can go on and on and on!!! Can't we just, for once, start dropping the "it's discrimination" thing and just say the guy was/is a complete idiot (and a republican one at that!)
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  • MRMacrum
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    With all the unbridled anger boiling up among the mouthbreathers on the Right, maybe many on the Left figure they should arm themselves. The Liberals of Maine are all set though. We have more guns per capita than any other state in the country. After all we live right next to the Live Free or Die State. And those folks have always been a few cards shy of a full deck. ;-)
  • FFX_VA
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    @MRMacrum LOL, lets see, The Pine Tree State vs the crazy Live Free or Die state. Hmmm, how good is your French?:)
  • MRMacrum
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    @FFX_VA - French? From all the hollerin and cryin over those mexican folks, I figure I should probably be boning up on my espanol. I hear tell they've already made it into Massachusetts. ;)
  • mimi57
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    Good for you, you go girl !!! I only wish most of the Leftist men had half the guts you do...but that ain't happening!
  • Zazziness
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    @Fishbone345 I didn't know it took guts to take a holy symbol meant to evoke deep reverance and slap it on the grill of a truck. I thought it just took bad taste. ;-)
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    seedtick
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    Who the hell knows who voted for who? Don't ask don't tell :-) It does remind me what a bunch of assholes were saying when George Bush was elected. I guess it's different now, though...huh...well isn't it? It's politics 101 and the First Amendment at work. Live with it.
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    woodtick57
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    You have to wonder how foolish and used the idiots who stocked up on guns and ammo four years ago must feel. they were lied to by their little club and obam did absolutely nothing to 'take away their guns'.

    great marketing by the NRA, though. some sheeple are just easy to spot....
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    Realthinker
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    My dentist has a sign posted on the door that says concealed carry is not welcome in his office. It's a personal choice whether or not to alienate customers. As far as Obama having no plans to confiscate or outlaw guns, that remains to be seen.
  • TheViper
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    @SavageMazx Hope you like having no teeth because you not going to find one that allows just anyone to pack heat. Most places have that sign up about no weapons allowed. Only cops are allowed to carry just anywhere.
  • SavageMazx
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    @TheViper well Viper, care to educate me on where I can as you so eloquently put it "pack heat"? Let's say I am in Reno Nevada, can I carry in a casino? Or I California can I swing by my son's grammar school for his parent teacher conference without disarming first? Exactly how many states are you personally licensed to carry in? Oh and not only does my dentist have no problem with an armed patient, he is also a holder of a current CCW.
  • TheViper
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    @SavageMazx Not in school, not in a store, not in any medical establishment I have ever been too Sam I am. But you can pack it in you car and you can have it in your house and you can go shoot paper targets at the range.
  • SavageMazx
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    @TheViper well then perhaps you live in the lovely country of England where guns have been outlawed, along with pocket knives and common sense......but here in the US where freedom still lives there are such things as CCW permits, where law abiding citizens can qualify for and receive a permit that allows them to carry a concealed weapon for protection of themselves and those around them.....as far as a school, it depends on the state. The state I am in does (even if it has big sign up that says no weapons, that applies to those who are not legally allowed to carry) , the neighboring state does not allow carry in a school for a private citizen or teach at all. Perhaps you should take a bit of time and educate yourself before you make statements about what I can or can’t do. Oh and BTW, I am licensed to carry in 32 of our 50 blessed states.
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  • Fishbone345
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    @DARSB WHAT!?! Jesus wasn't blond with blue eyes like all the pictures you see here in the states? What is this heresy you speak?
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  • Denizen_Kate
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    I support the shop owner's right to post his opinions at his place of business. I also support the right of any and all Obama supporters to purchase their firearms elsewhere. (Not all social liberals are in favor of gun control. Some of us like the second amendment. Some of us just like to shoot.)
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    vigilant
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    So you "like guns", and you are "not in favor of gun control", yet you support the rascals who have openly declared their intent to disarm all peaceable law-abiding Americans. Only a certified lunatic could simultaneously commit to two irreconcilable opposites. No wonder Mr. Reynolds is reluctant to sell you people weapons - you rascals.
  • Denizen_Kate
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    @vigilant - Gun control is one issue, and I'm not a one-issue voter. Only a simpleton thinks they can have everything their way.
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    vigilant
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    @Dotjones He never said he wanted to subject you to administrative jurisdiction either, but that was always his agenda, and that's exactly what he did when he imposed Obamacare on formerly private citizens. Brace for impact.
  • SavageMazx
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    Read the entire article. He realizes that he can't enforce this, he is just expressing his political view point, sort of like when I was sitting at the coffee shop here is the PRC (Peoples Republic of California) reading Defensive Handguns and enjoying a nice scone and had some yuppie liberal sheeple call me murderer. It's ok for PETA to tell my children that daddy murders bunnies, it's ok for the schools ask my child to fast for Ramadan and then tell me I am a hateful racist because I won't let them, it's all ok as long as you don't pick on the liberal agendas, cross that line and your a dangerous person or a hateful racist....crude just ranting now aren't I? LOL
  • MRMacrum
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    I will agree the Left are Irresponsible voters when looked at through the narrow pin hole view of the Right. After all, when the goal on the Right now is first and foremost above all other goals to defeat the evil Left without regards to the interests of the country they so loudly contend they love, then yeah, from that point of view I could see where you and the idiot who owns the shoot em up range would consider Obama voters irresponsible.
  • MRMacrum
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    @Zoe2012 - "Not only irresponsible, they are dumb too! Freeloaders and lazy as well!"

    ..........And I bet they also leave the seat up.
  • Fishbone345
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    It's his right to say what he pleases. The part that raises attention, is the fact that it's highly likely he, like so many others on this site, talks about how divisive Obama is then turns around and puts something like this up.
    Pot, meet Kettle.
    But, that's ok right? Nobody will point out the fact that it's exactly the same.
  • Zazziness
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    My experience has been that when a person says Obama is divisive it really means "He doesn't agree with everything I say."
  • mrit
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    @Zazziness

    My experience (over the last 4 years) has been that when people say Obama is being divisive they are referring to his rhetoric such as:

    Called American businesses soft and lazy and said they'd lost their ambition; they didn't build that; they need to up their game.
    Say the "wealthy" aren't paying their fair share.
    Stepped on the conscience protections of people of faith and attacked a Lutheran school's right to hire and fire on religious grounds.
    Use "gay rights" as a wedge issue and depict opponents of same-sex marriage as bigots.
    Manufactured a phony GOP "War on Women."
    Say Republicans want dirty air and dirty water and rejoice when people lose their insurance coverage, that they want a smaller America and don't believe in rebuilding roads and bridges, that they are hostage takers and Slurpee sippers. He says they created this mess, and they should sit in the backseat of the car. We'll have hand-to-hand combat with them on Capitol Hill, and if they bring a knife, we'll bring a gun.
    Crammed Obamacare down the throats of a strongly opposed majority.
    Continue to scare seniors, the "middle class" and the "poor" into believing Republicans want to destroy Medicare.
    Publicly ridiculed and demonized the Supreme Court on multiple occasions.
    Vilified immigration enforcement advocates as racists.
    Waged a war against states on immigration and voter ID laws as racists.
    Worked against military ballots.
    Lawlessly rewrote loans in the GM and Chrysler restructurings to favor unions and cheat secured creditors; and in Solyndra, to subordinate taxpayers to private investors. It does pay to contribute to the Obama campaign fund

    Didn't forgot about all that did ya..........hmmm?
  • Zazziness
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    @mrit - He did not call American business soft or lazy. When he said "you didn't build that" he was referring to the infrastructure like the roads, which was built by the community. He is right, the wealthy are not paying their fair share. Opponents of same-sex marriage are motivated by bigotry. He most certainly does not "rejoice when people lose their insurance." I could go on but why? Your diatribe is a list of distortions and lies. The reality you create for yourself? You have only yourself to blame for it.
  • mrit
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    @Zazziness

    Oh Zazzy you poor misguide thing. I was beginning to think we were becoming friends and then you get all ZAZZY and call me a liar. Take off the rose colored glasses and go to Youtube. Search the news clips and you can hear the words directly from Obama's mouth. Not that I expect you to face the truth. The lame excuse you use trying to defend Obama with, for what you know in your heart of hearts to be one of the most asinine statements of last year. Let me try to top that one. How about " That firefighter didn't rescue my grandmother from that burning house he need that fire suit and breathing apparatus provided by the community to get in an out alive", or "That paramedic didn't save my father from a heart attack he needed nitro-glycerin pills provide by the community to revive him", or how about that "Marine didn't earn that congressional medal of honor by fighting his way back into a battle to save his fellow Marines, he needed that gun paid for by the community to do that". Any rational person has to agree these types of statements make me sound like a freak'n idiot!!!! Granted this position is one that makes some of us feel good about cursing through life on the coat tails of others.

    If infrastructure is all that's necessary to build a successful business then why don't all of these Occu-Poop Wall street free loaders have million dollar success stories? The reality is that people with the intestinal fortitude to risk starting a business do so and some win and some lose. Then some of the losers lick their wounds and try again. It's part of their nature and you got to respect that (even the liberals). Then there's the parasites of society that believe anyone doing better than them some how cheated and it’s only right that they pay their fair share, oh boo hoo.

    But I digress. The original statement was a collection of statements made by your hero Barry Obama-lama-ding-dong that are at their core dividing the population into oh I don't know the Rich Vs Un Rich, those of Christian Faith vs those with Alternative life styles, Seniors Vs Republicans, Legal immigrants vs those in favor of immigration reform. Sounds pretty divisive to me, but I might be wrong so I looked it up from Webster’s:

    di•vi•sive /dəˈvaɪsɪv/ adjective
    [more divisive; most divisive] formal : causing a lot of disagreement between people and causing them to separate into different groups.

    If you want to look at my post again you’ll see that I didn't say Obama rejoiced when people lost their insurance. I said Obama accused Republicans of rejoicing when they lose their insurance. But since YOU brought it up he would probably like the idea of me losing my insurance so as to force me into the OBAMACARE program. God knows he’s doing everything possible to accelerate us towards that end goal.

    PS: If your willing to apologize for you mean words (calling me a liar) I’ll forgive you and we can be friends again :-)
  • Zazziness
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    @mrit I have heard the words if you're referring to the "You didn't build it" and it was clearly -- very clearly -- referring to the infrastructure. It took a lot of gall to deliberately misinterpret it but that's what Romney's campaign did because they had nothing else. As for your examples? You think they're sarcastic but they're true. We do live in an interconnected society and we are enabled by it. That's because human beings are social animals. As for "causing disagreement?" Pfffft. If you insist up is down, Mr. Obama is not "causing disagreement" when he points out that isn't so. I'll apologize for calling you a deliberate liar. It seems you are deluded which is different, I guess.
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