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WAR ON MEN

Fox News Says Women Have Ruined Men

Internet begs to differ

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by Mary Noble

Senior Editor t

Image: Screenshot, Knocked Up

A Fox News op-ed called "The War on Men" alleges that competitive women have turned men into marriage-averse slackers, and has triggered a predictably measured response from the internet.

"If men today are slackers, and if they're retreating from marriage," it's because the modern woman "has pissed them off," claims Suzanne Venker in her Fox column. As she explains it, "men want to love women, not compete with them. They want to provide for and protect their families - it's in their DNA. But modern women won't let them."

Venker calls this "the war on men," but it turns out that it's more of a self-inflicted wound by women. The alleged results may actually sound A-OK for a lot of men - they get to "have sex at hello and even live with their girlfriends with no responsibilities whatsoever."

The liberal internet has responded to Venker with a big helping of snark. Hannah Rosin, author of The End of Men, claims that she would love to "surrender to her femininity," as Venker urges, but she's clueless as to how to begin. "I get the general idea but what does it mean, like, in practice? Not wear pants so much? Let my hair grow. Ask my boss to pay me a little less? Open to ideas."

Via Fox News, Slate, and Salon.
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  • Greatstaff
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    @NormalFlora Why is that,AbbieNormal? does it hit too close to home for you? I suspect you attitude is one being indicted in the article! I have had enough of the "man bashing" of the kind seen on Oxygen, LMN, &Lifetime television net works, no to mention the castration classes in grade schools, which teach that boys should act more like girls.BLEAGH!
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    mimi57
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    Your still up?! You're going to be in t r o u b l e...it will be "sleep on the couch time " for you. Hahahahaaha...

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    Republican5001
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    This is what we get for her education at Cambridge University. Never had a high opinion of Ivy League schools but I think this sums it up. They suck. Mary, get your money back or pay ours back.
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    mtkopf
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    @Republican5001 fyi Cambridge University is not in the ivy league, not even on this continent. Cambridge UK
    Ivy League. 8 schools. Cornell Harvard Yale Brown Dartmouth Penn Columbia and Princeton.
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    mtkopf
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    @stepped_in_it yeah I don't know about ivy at Cambridge never been and I'm probably not smart enough to mop the floors there lol.

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    RobertJHarsh
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    This article is actually quite accurate. Women demanded the same roles as men, they got them. They wanted the same career opportunities...done. The pay gap is getting closer and in some places, women are treated as a protected class (or minority) so affirmative action rules favor them...including white women. Not to mention a laundry list of other protection laws. If a woman dates a make coworker and dislikes him one day, a quick email to HR claiming sexual harassment ends that guy working there since sexual harassment accusations are guilty until proven innocent. Therefore, men don't date women at work anymore, but I am sure it still happens. The reality is the socialist/liberal system as created a situation were women are competing against men and the deck is stacked against men, with the exception of the pay gap/glass ceiling. It is no surprise women make up most of the workforce since the C-level guys know they work for less. But that attitude will be gone in 10 years. The competition also exists in relationships as well were marriages are competitions and if the guy has enough, there is a rigged judicial system ready to hand over half to the wife, the kids, and unaffordable alimony payments for the man, guaranteeing bankruptcy for the guy. My prediction, marriage will be almost a forgotten memory in 50 years, provided things don't change. As for the females reading this...do not bother denying. What I said here is 1,000% correct.
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    RobertJHarsh
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    @dances-weebles Whoa, dude. Did I say I was happy, or sad, or whatever? No...I did not. I simply pointed out the results of 30 years of pro-feminist society. But wait! There's more. If you draw this entire feminism type of society out to their logical conclusions, you'd realize that marriage becomes meaningless. Especially if earnings flip to favor women in 20 years. Imagine tomorrow that 80 to 90% of the State legislatures and Congress are women in that same time frame. If your society is female dominated, then their are certain consequences....consequences that have NOT been thought out. Not to mention the end of things like Christianity and other organized religions where women are regarded as inferior. Like I said, no one ever thinks these things 10, 20 or 50 years down the road.
  • martydotcom
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    @dances-weebles Amazing how conservatives attribute all things they disagree with as causing the end of Christianity or it's Obama's fault

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  • acchokiefan
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    Fox uses the word WAR loosely or it's something that's always on their mind. WAR WAR WAR.....Fox has a war on TRUTH....if its out there spreading a a bunch of conflicting truth, they want rid of it....just like NPR and public TV or whatever? If they can't control it, they declare WAR on it.....WAR ON FOX NEWS !!!!
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    MasterPolitix
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    Good Lord. Of course it's changed. We have a sissified culture. Check any TV show today. The man is seen as some bumbling oaf. While the female is this Wonder Woman who does all and never complains and has to put the man in his place.

    It's idiots like you who can't handle truth. Guess you forgot the "War On Women"?" War on the Middle Class"? It was the left who dreamed that up. FoxWhiners can't stand to hear diverse views other than their Intolerant, Brownshirt, lockstep views. The left may have diversity of Sex, Color, Sexual orientation. But they are Goosestepping side by side in thought.

    Like the BIG deal of 20 democrat female senators. I could give a crap less what's between a senator's legs. As long as they have a brain. A brain is not a requirement to the Left. It's what the outward appearance is.

    Think different than them, and face their wrath. Some diversity eh?
  • Citrus93ta
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    Fox uses the word war ? Really war on drugs war on education war on poverty all those where used long before fox showed up .
  • Denizen_Kate
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    @MasterPolitix - "Check any TV show today. The man is seen as some bumbling oaf. While the female is this Wonder Woman who does all and never complains and has to put the man in his place."

    You and I must have very different tastes in entertainment. I watch shows in which men are smart, funny, and brave. You must be watching sitcoms. Dude, those shows will rot your brain.
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    Polusalo
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    @Denizen_Kate
    Was thinking the same thing.

    The only time I've ever seen Sam Winchester as a bumbling oaf was when he lost his shoe.
  • dances-weebles
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    now that's funny... 'in real life men are still stronger and smarter...' what a hoot. if you were all that smart you wouldn't be playing hero and climbing up the step ladder to change the light bulb and then feeling good about your masculinity, mr. macho man.
  • DARSB
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    "real life men are still the stronger and smarter sex and women depend on them."

    You weren't planning on having sex ever again, were you?:-)
  • dances-weebles
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    @Zazziness or remember to flush the toilette, not pee on the floor in front of it, or put the seat down when you're done making your mess.

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  • Vance1
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    Liberal Parents is what ruined men. Most of Todays men are weak and have been Sissy-fied
    they dont join the Military, and won't work a real job.
    Most do not even know how to change the oil on their vehicle.
    Fathers have allowed their son to grow up weak, and defense less.
    Men today could'nt fend for their families if they had to, Its a damm shame!!!
  • Dan_Tien
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    Most...most... most... just how many men do you know? I know how to change the oil in my vehicle, skin a deer, work a job, defend myself and yet I still had time to learn grammar, spelling and proper punctuation.
  • kirbstomp1
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    I grew up shooting deer, hiking, fishing, playing sports, learning instruments and still worked during high school. I can cultivate, cook, and have very high skills in mechanics and construction. I could build your entire house, and repair just about everything on a car except trans and motor work. Now im in college. But I had Republican parents.
  • dances-weebles
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    @kirbstomp1 hunting and fishing i used to do... but never hiking. i've never liked to go anyplace unless i had a ride. i also can cultivate, and cook and before i broke my lower vertebrae and my second knee i was really good at building and masonry... i know all about mechanics and can usually figure things out just by looking at them. there several differences between us, however. first of all, i received my third masters degree around 30 years ago, so, unless i decide to, i won't be going back to university. another difference is that i would never gladly get involved with repairing a car. it's just not worth the effort because mechanics are a dime a dozen. finally, even though my parents voted republican i've never followed any political party. i'm a moderate and non partisan.

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  • dances-weebles
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    @Denizen_Kate i guess you're right, but i have had a woman, during an episode of pms, throw a bowl of soup that i had made special for her because she thought that there might be something in it that she might not like the taste of. there wasn't of course.
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    Jasonopolis
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    Some men like highly competitive women, and some do not. I would same it is about 60-40, with about 60% of men desiring to be the protector and provider. I do, however, suspect that the ratio is lower in the younger generation of men.
    I see too many men wanting a woman to take care of them financially, while they sit back and try to dictate their lives to them. This is the worst kind of man - one who does not earn, but who tries to rule.
    Likewise many woman like a strong man, and some do not. Not sure of the percentages.
    Similarly, the worst kind here is the kind that wants the man to support financially, while she dictates from the couch.
    Our society is way too diverse to paint with such a broad brush (as if to say "everybody feels this way", or "everybody feels that way"), but it is an interesting notion and the author is not without some truth.

    It is also interesting to note that in our society, which has a long history of patriarchy tendencies, will not be so easily moved to an equal sharing of responsibilities - either for women or for men. No other society has ever faced such a (planned) move, in such a short period of time. For us to believe otherwise is foolish...
  • dances-weebles
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    well, it took a little while, but the israelites moved from being a matriarchal society to a patriarchal in a short time. they even erased all reference of their goddess from the tabernacle in favor of el.

    now... my wife earns most of the money for the household while i stay at home and raise the two children and take care of the domestic chores and cooking. when i do work, i work from home or from the church office or kitchens.
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    RobertJHarsh
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    @Jasonopolis HAHAHA. I just it "wasn't that long". HAHAHAHA. Now I am starting to figure this guy out. It's all coming in clear now. I wonder if he is forced to cook all the bake sale goods for the National Association of Women's annual fundraiser.:) ok.ok.ok....I kid dances-with-weebles.
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    tomincali
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    those women in the picture sure could put the hurt on someone.

    come on now, we all know women make us better,just ask your wife and she will tell ya.
  • Citrus93ta
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    Those men probably are having affairs with women right? So it's just the guys fault ? And affairs just started ? There where no affairs 30 or 40 years ago ?
  • Smoovious
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    Men have affairs for the same reason women have affairs...

    ...because their partner at home, isn't giving them what they need, and so they get it from someone else.

    If a man feels like a man at home, he is much less likely to seek out another woman, that lets him feel like a man.

    It is that simple.

    -- Smoov

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  • dances-weebles
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    @Penn1699 i'm sorry... i don't see the connection between what i said, and what you said.

    if you're talking about marriage, however, in the u.s. as well as most other countries, marriage is a legal issue... not religious.
  • dances-weebles
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    @Penn1699 what disconnect is that, pray tell? it's never in history been anything more than an issue of the consolidation of family power, and the passing of possessions. look it up.

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  • Zazziness
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    @dances-weebles Here and there. It always amuses me when a woman in a high-powered job that takes eighteen hour days lectures other women about how to be feminine by being weak, helpless and jobless.
  • dances-weebles
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    @Zazziness the thing is that i don't know of any women in educated societies who would ever say that. of course there are cultures in the world which believes that women should stay at home, but they are going the way of the dodo slowly but surely as women realise that there is life after marriage.
  • Zazziness
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    @dances-weebles Except the ditsy Faux News reporter who told women they're scaring the men is a woman. Personally, I think she scared another boyfriend out of her house by being an obsessed overachiever and the whole thing was just her projecting her personal woes out to the world at large.

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    UScentral
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    I remember the three stooges were members of the woman haters club. I guess there will always be maligned men that can't grasp human relations.
  • FFX_VA
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    @politixmary Awww come on Mary, that's not the "more photos" I had in mind... You can put the girls in bikinis with machine guns photo back now.:)
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