pIs health care a fundamental right?

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No, it's not

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@Dec '12 V 498 votes c 441 comments

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v No, it's not
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v Yes, it is
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v No, it's not
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NowOrNever voted

v Yes, it is
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v Yes, it is
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Jun 16

BFC12345

v Yes, it is

Life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness

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Jun 16
BDS voted

v Yes, it is
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v No, it's not
Jun 15
fantasyflygon voted

v Yes, it is
Jun 15
ResQMan voted

v No, it's not
Jun 15
Nonya voted

v Yes, it is
Jun 15

JTHEM

v Yes, it is

A fundamental right does not include government intrusion and huge tax hikes.

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Jun 15
Greggmcneill endorsed twinertia

v Yes, it is
Jun 15
BlissHeart voted

v No, it's not
Jun 14

PauldenZangpo

v I'm not sure

If its your right to stuff your face daily with double cheeseburgers, smoke a pack/day, drink a six pack nightly, never exercise-it's your right to pay for your own healthcare.

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Jun 14
ladywaterwood voted

v I'm not sure
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FatTony14 endorsed Thunderchicken

v No, it's not
Jun 13
EdVet voted

v Yes, it is
Jun 13
Tejano1969 voted

v No, it's not
Jun 13
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v No, it's not
Jun 13
Lopt voted

v No, it's not
Jun 12
usmom3 voted

v No, it's not
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Jun 12

Liam_npc

v No, it's not

This will move into the camp of socialism based society, new revolution will be needed or the statist will completely control and run our lives.

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Jun 12
D88isaac voted

v Yes, it is
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Jun 11
Linebacker66 voted

v Yes, it is
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Jun 8
hancel voted

v No, it's not
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Jun 8

Bcarter

v No, it's not

No more than electricity, food, and other things are. Somebody has to pay for it. I have lived a large part of my life without it. It is not a right, but a privilege. Some will suffer without it, just as some suffer without other things. That is the way of life.

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Jun 6
Old_Sarge voted

v No, it's not
Jun 6
stevesampson voted

v No, it's not
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Jun 6
USN-22 voted

v No, it's not
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Jun 6
skspls voted

v No, it's not
Jun 6

Jack-Black

v No, it's not

The right to availability maybe, but not the right to have somebody else pay for it.

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Jun 6
bajo endorsed DARSB

v Yes, it is
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Fishing1 endorsed Thunderchicken

v No, it's not
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Malken voted

v Yes, it is
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Knoll37 voted

v Yes, it is
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BeamMeUpScotty voted

v Yes, it is
Jun 1
Njorl endorsed Bobolinsky

v No, it's not
Jun 1
rtoberl voted

v No, it's not
Jun 1

Carach

v No, it's not

You cannot have a right to someone else's property.

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Jun 1

ccchhhrrriiiss

v No, it's not

It is no more a "fundamental human right" than having a place to live. The government should not be in the business of buying homes for people or REQUIRING them to buy a home. Likewise, the government should not be in the business of REQUIRING someone to BUY health insurance (ala Obamacare).

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Jun 1

Lucky_P

v Yes, it is

The Preamble to the Constitution clearly states in Black and white, one of the 5 functions of our government is to promote the general welfare of the people. If access to healthcare is not part of the General Welfare, I can think of nothing else that should be.

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Jun 1
MadAmerican voted

v No, it's not
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May 31
Andy2013 voted

v Yes, it is
May 31
Proeducation voted

v Yes, it is
May 31
H311RA151N voted

v No, it's not
May 30

N0rthman

v No, it's not

Forcing others to pay or provide a service is not a right.

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May 30
Texasbuzz voted

v No, it's not

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Jun 16

BFC12345

v Yes, it is

Life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness

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Jun 15

JTHEM

v Yes, it is

A fundamental right does not include government intrusion and huge tax hikes.

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Jun 14

PauldenZangpo

v I'm not sure

If its your right to stuff your face daily with double cheeseburgers, smoke a pack/day, drink a six pack nightly, never exercise-it's your right to pay for your own healthcare.

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Jun 12

Liam_npc

v No, it's not

This will move into the camp of socialism based society, new revolution will be needed or the statist will completely control and run our lives.

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Jun 8

Bcarter

v No, it's not

No more than electricity, food, and other things are. Somebody has to pay for it. I have lived a large part of my life without it. It is not a right, but a privilege. Some will suffer without it, just as some suffer without other things. That is the way of life.

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Jun 6

Jack-Black

v No, it's not

The right to availability maybe, but not the right to have somebody else pay for it.

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Jun 1

Carach

v No, it's not

You cannot have a right to someone else's property.

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Jun 1

ccchhhrrriiiss

v No, it's not

It is no more a "fundamental human right" than having a place to live. The government should not be in the business of buying homes for people or REQUIRING them to buy a home. Likewise, the government should not be in the business of REQUIRING someone to BUY health insurance (ala Obamacare).

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Jun 1

Lucky_P

v Yes, it is

The Preamble to the Constitution clearly states in Black and white, one of the 5 functions of our government is to promote the general welfare of the people. If access to healthcare is not part of the General Welfare, I can think of nothing else that should be.

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Jun 12

Liam_npc

No you are wrong it also means big house for all ( all utilities, furniture, insurance included), a brand new Lexus top end, unlimited vacations and airfare, minimum wage of $25 an hour, unlimited welfare, food stamps etc., oh yea, I would like liquor delivery to my free house. No health care is not Black and White in the Preamble of the Constitution like the other things I listed.

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Jun 13

Lucky_P

@Liam_npc Health care is essential for a minimal measurement of ones general welfare. So is food, shelter and clothing and utilities IMHO. If you don't like helping to pay for it, I would suggest you start demanding businesses pay better wages instead of paying themselves outragious unwarrented salaries. The problem with creating millions and millions of poor people, is they vote, and will vote for their survival. I know of no one that gets a free Lexus, unlimited vacations, $25 an hour, and insurance at tax payers expense.

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Jun 13

Liam_npc

@Lucky_P well you miss the whole point, government is incapable of providing anything but more poverty. Until people are forced to stand on their own two feet they will always take the lazy way of government handouts. This is nothing more than maintaining millions trapped in an existance guaremteed low income misery. Again to tour point health care being a constitutional right, you are wrong. Supreme Court Justice Roberts had to call ObamaCare a tax since as a forced fee that Obama called it would have been unconstitutional.

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Jun 13

Lucky_P

@Liam_npc First of all it is not government that is paying the low wages that is pushing more and more people under the poverty line. It is business. There are millions of working people that receive food stamps and government assistance. That is not the fault of government, that is the fault of big business. They decide what wages they will pay. Salaries are shrinking. Not growing. The average job gives their employees 2% raise a year, while the cost of living goes up between 4 to 6%. These businesses are giving their executives larger dividend checks, larger salaries, golden parachutes, and expanding at a record pace, and they are doing it by paying lower and lower w...

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Liam_npc

@Lucky_P You have completly bought into the lefts statist delusion that capitalist system is the blame for human misery, only government has the power and good will to help those government define have social needs. The one fault in you logic is the government has to take from those working folks to redistribute to others. Yes, only capitalist business generate wealth to tax which you ignore, government doesn't exist without taking from the shrinking base of workers. Without these good people that work there seems to be no end on what should be taken from to dish out. Enjoy your socialist dream because when there is nothing left to take from good capitalist working peo...

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May 30

N0rthman

v No, it's not

Forcing others to pay or provide a service is not a right.

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May 26

MnMking2797

v Yes, it is

Every person has the right to be taken care of when they are in need of help for whatever reason. The right to life without worrying about the cost it high on that list.

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May 31

Arumizy

Everyone has the right to pay for goods and services or not receive them if they do not want to pay for them.

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Bcarter

Your reply smacks of the welfare mentality. For several generations now people have been given food stamps, welfare, Social Security disability, etc. until they now believe that is a right. These have never been considered as rights until the last 20 years or so. Someone has to pay for all of these things. Who should do that? The person on consuming them or someone else. You say or whatever reason. Does that give one person the right to demand something fom another? The right to life without worrying about the cost? Wow! We do not have these rights.

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cpier14

v No, it's not

I think responsibility is the first right that is fundamental ! let's start teaching our kids that imagine the possibilities

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May '13

LEC

v I'm not sure

Rights are given by man and taken away by man.. In a time not so far from now, a smart phone will be considered a fundamental right. Never before has that happened. Healthcare is a sticky wicket.. on one hand, it has never been considered a right, but then we have never been in a situation where the Government is complicit in poisoning our food, water and air which results in a lot of sickness. So we have to decide, do we want cheap food, dirty water, and toxic air and the obscene profits that accrue to the few? If yes, then we need to collectively pay for the medical that is caused by the industry. If not, then maybe we need to stop all polluting practices, go ...

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May '13

harold_lloyd

v Yes, it is

It will have to become a right or the healthcare industry will own us. If healthcare is a right, then govt can ensure that we all have access to it. Otherwise pretty soon, if you can't afford insurance, you won't get treated except on an emergency basis.

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May '13

AlexNWA

v Yes, it is

Health Care should be available based on need not greed. Everyone should have the right to live a long and productive life. If we are to claim to be the best country in the world how can we allow our fellow citizens to die simply because they cannot afford simply, basic medical care. There is no reason for us to have an infant mortality rate of a Third World country simply because there is no short term profit to be had. The Health of the individual should reflect the health of the country as a whole.

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May '13

debido

v No, it's not

No it is not a right just as birth control is not a right. Hey I have acid reflux, why can't I get free heart burn medication?????

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May '13

Mr_GO_HERD

v Yes, it is

Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.... Its hard to have "life" if you're healthcare is garbage.

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May '13

AndrewMC

v No, it's not

When I think of a fundamental right, I think of individual liberty. While it could be argued that everyone has a right to health care, this "right" requires that people other than the individual be harnessed into a system from which they may accrue no benefit. When people talk about health care as a fundamental right, they are almost always talking about some sort of collective societal act, necessary to provide this care. We have one or two other fundamental rights which we have deemed so important that society as a whole kicks in to help provide it. For example, providing defense counsel for indigents on trial. But this is a drop in the bucket when it comes to c...

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May '13

scotta

v No, it's not

It does not say anything about insurance. Sorr y libs.

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May '13

fraps

v No, it's not

Next question to ask is having a Rolls Royce a fundamental right. The founding documents specify our rights. Not a single one of those rights force a citizen to provide support to a person other than his choosing. Obama care is wrong on many fronts. The worst is having the young in the country having to pay triple the value of an item that they do not want to have or buy. There is a better solution to the health care problem that is simple, probably profitable, and not particularly difficult to implement. First, prices for medical services should be posted and everyone should be charged the same price for the service provided. For those that do not have the fund...

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Thunderchicken

v No, it's not

Health care is a service to be provided and purchased.

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Dec '12

Bobolinsky

v No, it's not

Nothing can be a "right" that obligates others. Call it a perk, entitlement, bene, or privilege... but if your "right" imposes a cost on others or otherwise obligates others to provide services for no pay... It's not a right.

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Dec '12

Dan_Tien

v Yes, it is

The Constitution says that we have a right to life. The US spends billions every year on defense professedly to protect the lives of Americans. One would hope that the government would move quickly to treat citizens in the event of a terrorist biological attack, without screening us all first for our health insurance status. We pay taxes to support police and fire departments to protect our lives. Can we then justify telling citizens that they have no right to healthcare in the event of a natural epidemic or in cases of individual illness? Is it fair and moral to hold the lives and health of American citizens hostage to profit? Not in my opinion.

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Dec '12

twinertia

v Yes, it is

It certainly should be. It's a common concern that binds all of humanity (unless you're some sort of a spiteful troll). A healthy populace is a productive populace.

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Dec '12

Vermonter

v No, it's not

In order to get that health care we need somebody to provide it. Since when do we have the "right" to someone else's labors? That was called slavery.

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Dec '12

DARSB

v Yes, it is

While there are sure to be some voices denying the right to healthcare for financial reasons (as if they can assign a monetary value to a sick child's life) the larger issue is what sort of country to we want to be? I prefer one in which we look out for one another.

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Dec '12

S-N-A-F-U

v No, it's not

Of course not! This nation was established for a free people to be able to obtain security and happyness from their OWN efforts and hard work....... "The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself." - Benjamin Franklin Get it???

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Dec '12

LGRepublican

@Cheenoguy So people should be able to be as irresponsible as they want and have absolutely no accountability for their own actions knowing full well that "the rest of us" will pick up the tab for any health problems they have as a result of poor decisions and behaviors?

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Dec '12

jessejaymes

v Yes, it is

This is a misleading poll. This nation has already determined that health care is a fundamental right by including medicare with social security and medicaid for welfare. This latest "war" is only about whether working class poor, who are working and contributing, are entitled to affordable health care. Yes.

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