In a big defeat for John Boehner, Republicans have nixed his fiscal cliff bill, "Plan B," because they didn't have the votes to pass it. Discussions among House Republicans devolved into "chaos," Politicoreports.
The bill would have raised taxes on incomes over $1 million per year.
Boehner said in a statement that it's now up to Obama and Harry Reid to work out legislation to avoid the cliff.
Obama's current offer would raise taxes on incomes over $400,000 (up from Obama's initial offer, a tax hike on incomes over $250,000). It also involves a controversial recalculation of social security that will involve cutting payments to future seniors.
Well hopefully this will spare social security, cut military spending and tax the 1%, like we should. I been saying go over the cliff from day 1. After ee go over demand a bill reinstating tax cuts for the others.
This whole crap of Obama selling out the boomers has done it for me. Go the hell off the cliff. Let everyone suffer. The boomers paid in their entire working lives and the govt stole that money. NOW the young don't want to pay for the boomers and every politician alive is willing to sell them out. Fine, go off the cliff. You can come with the seniors. You can bail out everyone in sight but you can't pay back money stole? Off the cliff.
@PNWest You know one of the few principals I have is to try and make decisions based on more than just what I want. I don't need social security. But a hell of a lot of people who have contributed to this country for the past 50 years should have some dignity in their last years and not be warehoused in some ghetto apt eating cat food for dinner because our govt stole their money. obama has done it for me. He went to the wire for gays, for illegals, for Fannie and Freddie, for AVG, for Chrysler, for GMC and the banks and wall street but he's going to cut the old folks pittance of a cost of a living raise when those people washington get raises every year? Up yours obama.
I hope the same fate awaits Obama's gun control agenda. It burns me up to see all the liberals outraged over the kids being killed in Newtown but support 4,000 babies killed everyday by abortion. Except the kids' ages what is the difference? Well, one difference is the fact that their mothers gave them life rather than aborted them. They are due a lot of credit for that. These wonderful little kids' deaths would not be in totally wasted if their deaths shift the debate to abortion and it became recognized killing children, too.
It burns me up to see how the "conservatives" are more concerned about losing their beloved assault weapons than all people that were gunned down in CT. It further burns me up to see self righteous people throw red herrings like you are doing in re: abortion The 2 issues are separate. Another very interesting thing is how the republicans/conservatives rushed the country into 2 wars where 6000 Americans were killed and over 1,000,000 innocent Iraqis. Of course we never hear the conservatives mention these grievous crimes against humanity...which they and all that voted for them are guilty for.
Only fear based inwardly insecure people feel a need to own guns. Secure, normal people do not. And assault weapons are made for war and need to go. There is no sane reason for anyone to own assault weapons. These weapons are designed for mass murder, as we have seen 3 times this year.
The Republicans, their voters, and the NRA are responsible for these mass murders. If Democrats could, we would completely banish private gun ownership or would severely restrict it with new law.
Yea the something else is the Republicans should have written their own bill extending the Bush tax cuts, then sent it over to the senate, then if we do go over the cliff it would be on them. Cause as it stands now it appears to be republicans holding up the show, which isn't true, Obama is the one not really negotiating.
Wow, the first bill passed, the 2nd failed. If the house won't pass higher taxes on $1M+ incomes good luck trying to get something lower passed. That's a strong shot across Obama's bow. Maybe Mr B is smarter than he looks, this puts Pres 0 in a bad spot
go tanning. Obama has wanted to go off a cliff since the beginning. way back when he appointed the super duper special elite panelists to address this issue months ago, and threatened if they couldn't come up with an answer we would go off the cliff. well they didn't even work at it. they had no intentions of ever doing anything except raise taxes on everyone... but all this drama and theatre has made it possible for Obama to blame the Republicans and raise taxes on everyone. so Obama comes out the big winner and that was his goal from the beginning.
Agreed. This is ALL about Obama, and his "power struggle" And you just know that Obama and the rest of his illiterate followers will try and put thr blame on the GOP. Going "off the cliff" might be the best thing to happen. It will cut off Obama's spending binge.
The one truth that we should all, always remember is that a politician will sell us out when ever it best suits him/her. These people have no principle,little to no honor and have 0 loyalty to their oath of office.
I think John beohner just got a little pay back for dismissing conservatives from their commitee appointments and kicking the Tea Party members in the balls... and you know what they say paybacks a bitch
Let's all just hold hands. Libs and Conservatives and jump off that proverbial cliff. It'll hurt alot less than crashing the economy in the long run, and it's the only way these jackalopes are ever gonna do anything to fix the debt. Don't forget both of these idiots designed this fictional cliff. By idiots I mean Democrats and Republicans. No one is fully to blame here. They are all equal.
If the last election was a mandate as Obama says, then just let the democrats have it. Then they will either be justified, or the exact opposite will occur. Let it play out already, the bickering has to stop. We have bigger fish to fry, pass a budget already.
@bsking I think at this point congress doesn't want to put their vote on anything. I think they would rather just sit by, pass feel good measures, and let the country run itself. If they don't vote for it, they can't be held accountable for it. At least in this climate.