Pat Buchanan warned Sunday's gathering of the McLaughlin Group that the country could expect a revolution if the government attempted to confiscate privately owned guns.
The Daily Callerpasses along a partial transcript of the discussion prompting Buchanan's claim, which followed the thought exercise: If the Constitution were being re-drafted in the modern era, would we ditch the 2nd Amendment?
JOHN MCLAUGHLIN: With no Second Amendment, Congress could pass a law as limited as banning assault rifles or as sweeping as prohibiting all private firearm ownership, and requiring the surrender of all privately held firearms.
BUCHANAN: There would be a revolution in this country!
MCLAUGHLIN: Baloney! That doesn't mean you can't own one, but you have to put it in first and then go try -
BUCHANAN: There are 270 million guns in this country right now, John, and they're adding to them at a rate of 16 million a year.
Newsweek contributor Eleanor Clift, a regular to the program, countered Buchanan with the notion that one need not make the perfect the enemy of the good when it comes to gun regulation.
"Just because you can't fix everything, it doesn't mean you shouldn't do anything," said Clift.
I'm glad to see our veterans are standing against this treasonous war on the constitution!
Here is a letter from Cpl. Joshua Boston, to the communist hag Senator Dianne Feinstein...
Senator Dianne Feinstein,
I will not register my weapons should this bill be passed, as I do not believe it is the government’s right to know what I own. Nor do I think it prudent to tell you what I own so that it may be taken from me by a group of people who enjoy armed protection yet decry me having the same a crime. You ma’am have overstepped a line that is not your domain. I am a Marine Corps Veteran of 8 years, and I will not have some woman who proclaims the evil of an inanimate object, yet carries one, tell me I may not have one.
I am not your subject. I am the man who keeps you free. I am not your servant. I am the person whom you serve. I am not your peasant. I am the flesh and blood of America.
I am the man who fought for my country. I am the man who learned. I am an American. You will not tell me that I must register my semi-automatic AR-15 because of the actions of some evil man.
I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has been established by the media and your misinformation campaign against the American public.
Almost two weeks after a shooting spree stunned Australia in 1996, leaving 35 people dead at the Port Arthur tourist spot in Tasmania, the government issued sweeping reforms of the country’s gun laws.
There hasn’t been a mass shooting since.
Just 12 days after the 1996 shooting in Port Arthur, then-Prime Minister John Howard – a conservative who had just been elected with the help of gun owners – pushed through not only new gun control laws, but also the most ambitious gun buyback program Australia had ever seen. Some 650,000 automatic and semiautomatic rifles were handed in and destroyed under the program.
Though gun-related deaths did not suddenly end in Australia, gun-related homicides dropped 59 percent between 1995 and 2006, with no corresponding increase in non-firearm-related homicides. Suicides by gun plummeted by 65 percent, and robberies at gunpoint also dropped significantly. Many said there was a close correlation between the sharp declines and the buyback program.
Perhaps the most convincing statistic for many, though, is that in the decade before the Port Arthur massacre, there were 11 mass shootings in the country. Since the new law, there hasn’t been one shooting spree.
In the wake of the shooting, polls indicated that up to 85 percent of Australians supported the measures taken by the government.
In the wake of the Newtown shooting, several Australian politicians are now suggesting that the US adopt Australia’s gun laws.“I implore you to look at our experience,” Labor Member of Parliament Kelvin Thomson wrote in an open letter to the US Congress that he also posted on his official website.“As the number of guns in Australia reduced, so too did gun violence. It is simply not true that owning a gun makes you safer.”recently.
“There have been always been great differences between the number of weapons that Australians and Americans own – that is precisely why there are so many more deaths, on a per capita basis, in the United States. It is also true that there are differences in the way Americans and Australians view weapons – nevertheless … our experience is relevant and potentially informative – we had massacres, we acted, we no longer have massacres.”
I read that after Australia's gun ban was enacted, armed robberies rose by 51%, unarmed robberies by 37%, assaults by 24% and kidnappings by 43%. While murders fell by 3%, manslaughter rose by 16%. And after England's ban in 1997, crime rose by 40% over the next 2 years. If the President, Congress, and the elitists in America (Dem & GOP) can have armed protection for both themselves as well as their children, the same should apply to all American citizens.
It's amazing. The government can rob us blind, lie to us, cheat us, send our children into battle to die for nothing...yet we barely bat an eye. Let the people's unfounded paranoia over losing a gun reach a fevered pitch, and suddenly there are riots in the streets.
Yes! The recent blatant hypocrisys should at the very least cause some anti gun folks to take notice. If it came down to a total ban, I'm sure some would surrender theirs. Many would not. We are already seeing the elitists have no problem hiring armed protection while attempting to disarm the common man.
Our founders were a helluva a lot smarter than these miscreants that want to control every aspects of our lives. They also warned us of despots that can easily transform a nation of God given freedoms into an oligarchy....
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason Co-author of the Second Amendment during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788
"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …" Samuel Adams quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, "Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State"
"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." George Washington First President of the United States
"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution." Thomas Jefferson Third President of the United States
"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin American Statesman
For those who know history. The Brits ("Redcoats") tried to confiscate firearms. The Turks confiscated firearms against the Armenians, which led to the Armenian genocide of 1912. Hitler confiscated firearms, that led to the Holocaust. Stalin confiscated firearms, that led to the Holomodor. Here in the USA, we have the 2nd Amendment for Good Reason. Our Forefathers wanted the people to recognize that governments should fear them, not the other way around. And SCOTUS has ruled twice on this already (Heller v. DC and McDonald v. Chicago), affirming the 2nd Amendment shall not be infringed.
You keep denying that anyone want to do away with the Second amendment while every 15 min on the news this morning there are reports that leglisation is being proposed to render the second amendment null and void. Tracking all gun sales effectively crests a regristry. Making gun ownership a privilege instead of a right. You can deny all day but you know better.
It's always chickenhawks like Buchanan that talk big about revolution and the like. These guys are cowards and would turn over their guns in a minute if the 2nd amendment were revoked. You heard the same rhetoric coming from these types about leaving the country after Obama got elected - both times! All hat and no cattle.
@woodtick57 In reality abortions happen because of women who aren't ready to have a child for whatever reason. Gun deaths happen at such an alarming rate because our extremely violent culture has easy access to lots and lots of guns. God has nothing to do with it. Or anything else for that matter. I was just pointing out the stupid logic. Interestingly, even if off topic, the book Freakanomics makes a decent argument that abortion actually decreases crime.
First, show me one bill on the docket trying to call for the confiscation of guns. Even if we renew the assault weapons ban and limit magazine capacity they won't be taking them from anyone you just won't be able to buy them. Second, I remember my grandma raising chickens when I grew up. Whenever she grabbed them to slaughter them they fought. Not once were they able to overcome her size and get away. Everytime she went to get one we ate chicken. Sometimes she would get a scratch, but we always are chicken. If you Regressives ever follow through on your threats of revolution it will be the same result. You won't be able to overcome America.
@Cheenoguy the problem with your storey is that service members would never attack americans on a wide scale basis, no matter what the governnent told them. Military members are americans first, service members second.
As far as confincation is concerned, were it to be tried would be a terrible mistake. I will never take an offensive action against my country but if you want to take mine you must be willing to kill me to get them.
Your statement reminded me of that brief moment in "Terminator" when we see the "You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers" bumpersticker on a truck. Then we see a Machine casually walk over the truck owner's corpse. To me, it seems our military uses horrible weapons against our enemies and guns are the least of them. If our military ever rebels and stops obeying our government or if our government ever falls and the military is free-lancing its way to a military coup, I think gun owners are going to find their weapons aren't as much use as they thought they would be.
@Bullitt gun ownership is a right not a privilege. Learn the difference. Once the second amendment is taken the first amendment is next. I doubt you want that. This isn't Austrailia, England or Canada. This the United States. There are still some of us that believe that EVERYONE should have the right to freedom. Too many have died fighting for that freedom to give it away for your socialist agenda.
@Bullitt What "framework to take them away?" I doubt I support it since I have no idea what you're talking about. That's the kind of unthinking, non-fact-based paranoia that worries me when it's accompanied by a fervent wish to horde lethal weapons.
@Zazziness then you have very little understanding of what you propose. You want gun control? Do you think my friends in Great Britain and Australia haven't warned me of how this is done? Or can you not understand the difference between a right and a privilege ? Unthinking? I don't think so. You know better but it's easier to demonize me than to admit your wrong.
Cheenoguy, that is a great analogy. In your story, the chickens would be the US citizens and your grandma the government. A chicken (citizen) loses his life (rights) so the grandma and her family (the government) can get what they want, by force. Do you REALLY trust your government after seeing what it has done to the American way in this country? One reason criminals still do what they do is that the bleeding hearts say that criminals have to be treated humanely. 3 meals a day and clean dry place to sleep...how is THAT punishment? Go back to corporal punishment and make prison a thing to AVOID...then criminals will think twice. Removing guns from the hands of legitimate , peace loving citizens will just make those citizens even more endangered at the hands of criminals. CRIMINALS WILL ALWAYS FIND GUNS OR A WAY TO KILL PEOPLE TO GET THEIR WAY! So, if the bleeding hearts get their way this time, only criminals and the government will have guns. Are you that trusting? I , for one, do not want to be the chicken in your story.
@harold_lloyd I agree it's far removed from reality. I also believe most of our own military would have a hard time shooting on it's own people, even if the CIC ordered it..but, that's just a far removed opinion of mine!
There was a young girl, one of four people, that comitted four very cruel murders. As part of a defense that I still don't understand she claimed that 28 people were drug dealers. Twenty-eight families had their homes raided and their property siezed under the RICO Act. There were never any charges filed against any of the 28. The grand total of what the anti-drug teams, cops, sheriffs deputies and the FBI found was 7/8 of a gram of weed from those 28 homes. They siezed hundreds of thousands of dollars of cash and personal property from these families. My home was one of those hit in the name of government justice. We had 50 cops of various types hit our home, and that number is not an exxageration. My kids were forced to sit with shotguns and assault rifles trained on them for over an hour and a half. My house was trashed. I was taken to the garage and had team after team try to make me admit to something I wasn't even involved in. The lettuce in my iguana's tank was pronounced 'marijuana residue'. Our money was taken along with a lot of other property. Then they all left and my family and I sat there in total shock. My 16 year old son, a truly straight and square kid that had his whole life planned out in a conservative's dream, asked me over and over what happened to us and why? How do you answer that? We were associated with nothing illegal in any way except that a teenage girl found a ready audience for what turned out to be a lie. We never got one thing back that was siezed. This happened to 28 families. That girl got 15 years for four murders and didn't even serve all of that. What is kept behind my door now? No one's business unless they make the mistake of trying to rob me and abuse my family again. Will I lose such a raid again? Most assuredly. But I'll be damned if I'll sit there and let this happen again. I just can't do that. My opinion of the Second Amendment? HELL YEAH!
Sounds like the warrant they had was issued under false evidence, and pretty flimsyu evidence, but it you try to stop a police raid witha warrant byu using your gun, you know there will be only one end of that for you, don't you?
I share a story that is similar to yours, but I'll retell it another time and just say that I was your 16 year old. My whole life got turned up side down just because they believe someone else's words. WORDS. This was like a singularity event in my life that changed everything. Since then, I HATE cops. Don't get me wrong, I respect officers and what they do, but it's their job. I don't cry when one has their life lost in the line of duty. The officer arresting my dad and brother (my only family, really) was a teacher I had in the D.A.R.E. program at school. He was serving in two different districts and cooked the books on his time cards. It was a decent sized scandal because a sizable chunk of money was essentially stolen. He still has both his jobs. My dad and brother went to jail for crimes they didn't commit. Protect and serve my ass.
@Mbjhug The change in my son was abrupt and immediate. We all had lasting effects from this but I can point to the specific day and event that 'ruined' my son. There is no way to accept what happened that day.
http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-war-... This site lists innocent victims of the war on drugs. I think that even if legalizing drugs meant there would be more addicts or overdoses then that's still outweighed by this. Trying to stop drug trafficking is not worth serious harm to innocent people much less death(and this site has plenty of deaths listed on it). People who become addicted to drugs or overdose have themselves to blame. We can take sympathy on them. We can offer advice and help. We can even require drug companies to pay for rehab services. Ultimately though it's on them, and trying to force people not to do drugs tends to lead to resistance. Saving people from themselves isn't worth making others into collateral damage. There are valid concerns about legalization but all of those concerns can be remedied while still legalizing drugs. Dangerous drugs that can lead to seriously violent behavior at times can be managed by requiring them only to be consumed at special, licensed locations under the watch of trained professionals who know how to deal with people on drugs when things go wrong. This alone would've spared us many tragedies. The bath salts cannibal may have just had a bad trip, been restrained and comforted through the trip, never hurt anybody, and left the experience not wanting to experiment with that again.