Cuomo Pushes For Massive Gun Control In NY

Governor says there's no reason for private citizens to own assault rifles

NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo says his state should add more gun control laws to the books, which already has some of the tightest gun control measures in the nation.

In his State of the State address Wednesday in Albany, the first-term Democrat referred repeatedly to NY as the "progressive capital" of the nation as he sought to make his state the first to take action in the wake of last month's school massacre in Newtown, CT, reports Real Clear Politics.

Cuomo said tougher gun control laws are common sense. "No one hunts with an assault rifle," he told state legislators. "No one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer, and too many innocent people have died already. End the madness now. Pass safe, reasonable gun control in the state of New York. Make this state safe. Save lives. Set an example for the rest of the nation."

Cuomo is considered a likely 2016 Democratic presidential candidate, depending on what outgoing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton does. Cuomo's faced criticism from liberals who have accused him of being too tough on labor unions, among other things.

But Cuomo's tacked hard left on gun control. That includes musing about "confiscation" as an option in the wake of the Newtown killings.

Via Real Clear Politics.

NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s views on gun control are:

[OhWiseOne]

He, and others like him, really want to do away with the 2nd amendment. They simply do not have the courage to say so out loud. We must unite and defeat these sinister forces among us who want to take away our freedoms.

[MongoAPillager]

Hear! Hear!

[FollowTheMoney]

Hazzah!!!

[marine1]

I have done nothing wrong with any of my firearms, why should i be punished for those that goverment can not control? The damage comes from the deadbeats that goverment has created, let them pay the consequence not the law abiding. Cuomo is an idiot.

[marine1]

@marine1 that picture kinda put me in mind of Bowser

[paperdragons81]

All lovers of freedom and the constution need to stand together and fight if the need arises. I for one don't want to see the day our countrys changes to a dicatorship, and I don't want to expain to my grand kids one day how we used to be a free country, NOT ON MY WATCH!!

[Mogal]

"Sinister"?
How do you know Cuomo is left-handed?

[Rocker]

I'm willing to cut him a deal. Persuade thugs, criminals, and gangs to give up theirs first then I'll feel safe enough to give up mine. Until then I'll agree with him - NY Governors shouldn't have guns. LOL

[Ashstop]

I'll agree he shouldn't one at least! Wonder what his bodyguard carries? Foul language? Lol

[DARSB]

I ask for information only: how many robberies or muggings have you fended off with  your firearm?

[Canoochee]

@DARSB I don't know about Rocker, but guns are used thousands of times every day to prevent crimes from happening.

If you don't believe that then why don't you interview a few of those muggers and robbers to see if they prefer their victims to be armed or unarmed? Never hurts to ask. Well unless you don't want to know the answer.

[Rocker]

@DARSB - Zero of course.

[tomincali]

@DARSB i have a few times. only called the cops once though,waste of time they want to check me out on my own property. one thing for sure you do not want to be waiting on them if in danger.

[jessejaymes]

Much to the chagrin of my fellow gun owners I am for tightening up guns but Cuomo is going nowhere with this. You start talking confiscation and you can't elected dogcatcher in about 45 states. Maybe 47.

[Denizen_Kate]

More like all 50. Talk of confiscation just makes honest folks think hard about buying weapons "off the books" and I don't think that's such a good thing.

[martydotcom]

I don't a Long Beach Ca mind set on gun ownership is quite the same as a New Yorker's. Gun owners in NY are far from the norm. recall how many gun owners pin were in the map of Westchester Cty. published by the local Journal News. Not that many for a mil + population there is no overwhelming number of hard care gun owners I think Cuomo will get this passed along with tracking ammo sales & banning both Teflon and incendiary ammo.

[PoliticalSpice]

Cuomo does little he can not get passed. He is trying to help the republican party keep the senate majority in new york after it looked in danger. He knows how to build coalitions. I do not support him, but I wouldn't be so quick to write him off, he is not as liberal as people outside new york think, and is largely getting the "benifit" of his dads reputation. He has limited property tax increases, tamped down a measure to legalize marijuana, taken on unions. He is a moderate dem who is likely to throw his hat into the ring for the big job in four or twelve years...this is just red meat for the national liberal base.

[jessejaymes]

@PoliticalSpice @martydotcom I have no doubt Cuomo wields great power in NY and will probably get what he wants. My point is he's going nowhere nationally with this hardcore of a stance. Using the word confiscation is not going to fly in any state other than NY, Calif and probably Conn.. He will not get that ever important moderate vote because moderates tend to be pro gun. I don't believe the hard core left can elect a president by themselves anymore than the hard core right can.

[talkenhed]

@jessejaymes I never viewed Coumo going beyond the state level. He not a player on the Natl scene
He's just got no Charisma + he's got Hillary and Sen. K Hildrebrand to cope wirh

[Vance1]

Another radical secular progressive NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo says He knows whats best for you , The People, isnt it time we fight back!!

[OhWiseOne]

Yes. I urge all freedom loving Americans to unite, become politically active, and not back down. This is serious stuff folks.

[marine1]

I have a 22 cal tubular feed rifle that hols 16 rounds, it was made in the 50's,. would that be a high capacity assault rifle?

[Vance1]

@marine1
YES, Feinstein would adore to take it from you

[PoliticalSpice]

We gone around enough for me to know what i say won't make any difference to you, but let me tell you a few things about cuomo. First he is not a progressive, not even a liberate. He is working to help keep the republican in majority in the ny senate because he doesn't want the legislature in assembly and senate to be both dems. He has worked to prevent a legalization of marijuna measure being supported by trying to instead have it reduced to a violation from a crime, he has put a cap on property taxes. He has been tough on unions. He is a catholic, not an atheist, and his liberal reputation is that of his dad, just as rand pauls reputation is of his dads. Neither is the real thing...

He is doing this in new york, where gun ownership is not considered a big deal. He wouldn't even try it if he wasn't pretty sure he could win. He is doing it with an eye toward placating the liberal base of dem party, who are not pleased with him. He had big thoughts revolving around 3 or 12 years in the future. And I hope i'm never faced with having him as the choice to pick over a republican...

[HPthinker]

@marine1 once all the guns are confiscated the criminals will have an open invitation to do what ever they want... what can go wrong?

[harold_lloyd]

It's silly to have a state ban anything, it doesn't have secure borders.

In general, prohibitions give rise to a criminal class dedicated to supplying the banned item.

On the other hand, I'd support putting clones of assult weapons under the 1934 National Firearms Act, which was supported by the NRA at the time. That way, nothing would be banned.

[PoliticalSpice]

Do I understand you correctly? Are you suggesting placing semi-automatic rifles under the same law that now covers automatic weapons?

[userfriendly]

@PoliticalSpice
To be more specific, I'm suggesting putting semi-auto versions of weapons actually issued to military forces under the 1934 act.
Nothing is banned, anyone who wants one can still get it, but the scrutiny is a little more thorough.
On a side note, as we gain the capability to manufacture pretty much anything at home, the concept of gun control, or anything control really, is going to have to change. If you haven't been keeping up, google 'CNC guns'.

[PoliticalSpice]

@userfriendly under this ar-15 would be under the 1934 act, right, i'm just trying to see if i understand your proposal. Do I get it correctly?

[userfriendly]

@PoliticalSpice
I think you pretty much nailed it.
I don't see what the fuss is over AR type weapons. Puny little things, made for women, and the Air Force. A Garand is a real weapon...

[PoliticalSpice]

@userfriendly although i support the second i have no clue, live in a city and never owned a gun, but the ar-15 looks cool.

[TeamAmerica]

Assult Rifles are select fire weapons that have been heavily regulated for decades. Funny that elected officials do not even know what an assault rifle is.

[WilliamWallace]

Just like they don't understand methamphetamine is illegal yet criminals still have it. Just like murder is illegal yet criminals still kill.

[marine1]

@WilliamWallace How can this happen when there are laws against it, say it isn't true.

[PoliticalSpice]

Yea, I never understood why they are calling semi-automatic rifles assault weapons. I think maybe just because it sounds scarier to the public...

[marine1]

90% of these half wits that use the term assault rifle have no idea what it is.

[WilliamWallace]

@PoliticalSpice You are right! It is the scary BIG BAD BLACK ASSAULT RIFLE affect. When you teach people to fear something they eventually learn to hate that item.

[Fitz]

You cannot have freedom and liberty with a progressive government.

[marine1]

Now that IS a fact

[Fitz]

@marine1 people need to make a choice.

[John_Matrix]

People do hunt with assault rifles but that's not really th issue here. The guns were obtained illegally. Shootings like the one he mentioned are almost exclusively premeditated and near impossible to stop beforehand. So yeah, makes perfect sense, pass even more laws to strip the law abiding citizens of their weapons so the criminals will be the only ones to have them. This fantasy world that the left created that banning weapons stop their use by criminals never ceases to amaze me, especially when there are numerous countries around the world that directly contradict this dumbass line of reasoning.

[Mogal]

Hunting with an assualt rifle is akin to going fishing with a torpedo. Just sayin'.

[texas_cutie75]

@Mogal

Fishing with dynamite could be fun!!

[WilliamWallace]

@Mogal If you have never fished with dynamite (I know dynamite is not a torpedo) then you have never truly went fishing.

I have taken deer with the same Bushmaster M4 that I carry at work. Oh and it even has a can on it. That's scary ain't it.

[Mogal]

@texas_cutie75 Sure does make a mess. ;)

[Mogal]

@WilliamWallace The Coast Guard frowns on things like that. ;)
We bow hunt, my husband used to hunt with a Galil, but then thought better of it. We are both IPSIC shooters and are pro 2nd Amendment, but are rather apalled by some of the crazies that have come out to play on this issue, so to speak.

[Canoochee]

Using the terrible tragedy in Connecticut to push his political goals? Who is he going to get to confiscate the citizens of New York's guns?

If they are pro gun control they are scared of them. If they are pro freedom then they will refuse to do it.

And at what point does he plan to shoot those who absolutely refuse to give up their guns?
Remember if guns are outlawed only the government and other criminals will have them.

[OhWiseOne]

Very well said. I also find it repulsive that anyone would use a tragedy like this to further their own political agendas.

[Canoochee]

@OhWiseOne Thanks. This has peaked my interest.

Wonder how the governor would go about confiscating citizens' firearms once they are outlawed? And if he doesn't plan on confiscation then what point is there to yet another useless toothless law?

[OhWiseOne]

@Canoochee IMO they would send armed federal agents in tactical gear to your house to get your guns. I absolutely believe that the left does not believe in private gun ownership and they would use law enforcement to carry out their plans.

[Canoochee]

@OhWiseOne How many federal agents could be counted on to fire on their fellow citizens? How many in the National Guard?

I don't believe there would be more than a handful of people in this country that would shoot a fellow citizen for refusing to give up his/her lawfully obtained firearms. I am curious to see what the left has to say on the subject.

[WilliamWallace]

@Canoochee The day I am told to confiscate firearms from law abiding citizens is the day I turn my badge in. Everybody I work with feels the same way.

[MongoAPillager]

"Governor says there's no reason for private citizens to own assault rifles" There is no reason a free republic should haves the likes of Cuomo as a public servant

[DARSB]

Well, except for him getting the most votes, I guess there really isn't any reason for Gov Cuomo to be Gov.

[MongoAPillager]

@DARSB thank you for backing me on that one

[Dan_Tien]

I happen to agree that the 2nd Amendment does not grant citizens ownership of any type of firearm on the market. Can anyone provide a link describing a real-life example of an American citizen defending their home with a semi-automatic rifle with a 30 round detachable magazine? Make that an example of someone who was not a gangbanger defending himself from other gangbangers.

[bambi33]

Dan:
You are so right. The 2nd amendment grants absolutely NO right whatsoever! Rather, it merely prohibits government from even so much as infringing upon our pre-existing right to bear arms, with which we were endowed by our Creator. Consequently, any discussion of infringement is merely a criminal's contemplation of treason. It really os that simple.

[Denizen_Kate]

@bambi33 - You're saying god gave us the right to have weapons? Does it say that in the bible? I've read the Christian bible and I don't recall anything like that. Or do you mean some other creator?

[Dan_Tien]

@bambi33 By "our Creator" I assume that you mean the same Judeo-Christian deity who is reported to have said "You shall not kill" and cursed Cain for killing his brother? There is no mention of God-given rights in the 2nd Amendment: "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" is the wording of that particular section. American citizens have already been restricted from ownership of certain weapons. Restricting by law the types of arms that a citizen may keep and bear is not the same as denying them the right to bear weapons at all. With one sentence you claim to defend a citizens right to bear arms and with the next you seek to deny a citizen the right of free speech. You cannot hide your tyranny with a cloak of patriotism.

[bambi33]

@Denizen_Kate,
Indeed - whether sticks, rocks, spears, arrows, or guns - armed defense has been our birthright from our first creation. The right to life is inalienable. It is self-evident that the right to defend it is inseparable therefrom.

[Denizen_Kate]

@bambi33 - I was hoping you would point out exactly where in the bible god gave us the right to bear arms. Sorry, it was a little disingenuous of me to bait you like that. Since I don't believe in creationism, but do respect our constitution, I would say that we have the right, in this country, to own weapons, but the types of weapons we are allowed to own is not specified in the constitution, the Bill of Rights, or indeed even in the bible. Personally, I don't want the federal government to tell me what I can and cannot have, as long as I am harming no one I should be free to have and do whatever I like. I also don't want anyone's version of a deity dictating to me.

[WMCOL]

Don't let these people like Cuomo take away or infringe Constitutional rights to keep and bear arms as they are trying to do.

Cuomo has heavily armed security with him 24/7 but wants to deny law-abiding citizens who can't afford his kind of security the ability to protect themselves.

[Canoochee]

You raised the point you go first. Tell us of a gun control law that would actually have prevented any of the well known mass shootings?

Or tell us what law could be passed that would prevent future mass shootings?

[Canoochee]

Screwed something up. That comment was to Dan_Tien.

[dkpayton]

sure just look south to mexico .thats what happens when you disarm people.. how many dead down there???

[Canoochee]

@dkpayton And guns were supplied illegally to the criminals.

[MongoAPillager]

there are about a million "Gangbangers"they not going to give up their Assault weapons because of a law,so i guess i'll keep my just in case,if you wish to die and whimper in the corner when your 10 shot clip is empty thats your right,if i want the best possible defense thats my RIGHT

[stepped_in_it]

Why does our government want to disarm it's lawful citizens but can't disarm it's unlawful citizens? Sometimes I feel the sheepherder is tying down his sheep and turning his head so that the wolves can have a free meal! From my cold, dead hand....

[marine1]

This is a VERY simple answer, our goverment is incompetent when it comes to dealing with bad people.

[jessejaymes]

@marine1 But you have to admit they can legislate the hell out of the good people.

[WilliamWallace]

@marine1 I think society is incompetent when dealing with bad people. Take for instance the psyco that set the fires and killed the firefighters. He should have been out to death or in prison for te rest of his life when he commited murder the first time. When we let people like this out into society again what do we expect.

I know this does not stop all of the problems but it would help a large percentage of them. It is a start that actually does something and it does not hurt law abiding citizens.

[dkpayton]

sounds like its time for the people of new york to stand up .. you people legally put him in office and you can legally have him removed from office.. time to let them know there jobs are on the line...

[RobertJHarsh]

He makes me want to donate to the NRA.

[ConserveUSA]

Leave are guns alone!