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Man Who Helped Save Sandy Hook Kids Harassed by 'Truthers'

Conspiracy theorists claim massacre never happened

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by Mary Noble

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Gene Rosen discovered six little children in his driveway one morning in December 2012. "We can't go back to school," one boy told Rosen. "Our teacher is dead." Rosen took them into his house, gave them food and toys to play with, and phoned their parents.

Since then, Rosen has received a torrent of anonymous phone calls and emails accusing him of lying, he told Salon. One email asked, "how are all those little students doing? You know, the ones that showed up at your house after the 'shooting.' What is the going rate for getting involved in a gov't sponsored hoax anyway?" Rosen has also been the subject of web pages and videos accusing him of fraud, and white supremacist blog posts attacking him as the "emotional Jewish guy."

He's being targeted by the Sandy Hook Truther movement, which "alleges that the entire shooting was a hoax of some kind," writes Alex Seitz-Wald in Salon. Many truthers believe that the massacre was faked - presumably by Democrats in government - in order to promote gun control.

"Sandy Hook Hoax" websites are thriving, and a truther video titled "The Sandy Hook Shooting: Fully Exposed" has been viewed over 6 million times on YouTube. The video purports to show evidence that the shooting never took place - the main evidence being that the Sandy Hook families seem "artificial" and insufficiently grief-stricken.

Via Salon and YouTube.
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  • OpEn_MiNdEd
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    Someone once said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". Conspiracy theorists like you, however, make extraordinary claims with little or no evidence at all (most of the time the latter). No different to the nuts who actually believed that the World was going to end just under a month ago. I wonder where they are now...
  • horsehockey
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    @OpEn_MiNdEd you really believe there is "no evidence"? Compelling evidence, more like it. The guy changed his story from a female bus driver speaking to the kids to a man "speaking forcefully" to the kids. The lack of emergency vehicles responding to the scene. Have you even watched the video? I don't buy everything presented in it, especially conclusions derived certain people's actions, but some of the evidence presented is irrefutable.

    I believe a horrible tragedy happened at Sandy Hook. I also believe people were put in place to appeal to the emotions of the masses in order to further an agenda for widespread gun control.
  • OpEn_MiNdEd
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    @horsehockey You call that 'irrefutable'?? A freakin bus driver?? Please tell me you're joking. It seems you're more interested in splitting hairs than actually giving proof that would stand up to the most extreme scrutiny. Like I said before, extraordinary claims = extraordinary evidence. And your so-called 'evidence' of Government involvement in this tragedy doesn't even make the cut of being considered ordinary.
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  • Vance1
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    Yes the democrats are, whenever I hear a democrat speak of gun control, aka people control , it reminds me that they sound just like Al Qaeda militants
  • frigginhell
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    @Vance1 Correct me if I'm wrong. Or just disagree with me, I'm sure you will. But isn't people control what the mental health advocates are asking for by opening the asylums again and making it harder to get out on your own?
    It seems rather strange people crying about losing personal freedoms in the form of no longer being able to buy large capacity magazines for their assault wannabe rifle for their wannabe urban warrior lifestyles are also so keen on seeing that we start locking up the insane again. Won't it be funny when we determine that their gun loving anti social conspiracy asses are nuts and go to lock them up.
    Oh, I know, they'll have to come for them guns blazing I'm sure because we all know how well that always turns out for the guy making a stand.
  • frigginhell
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    @frigginhell So in short, here's a conspiracy for you. Some people higher-up want to start putting away the dissidents. They've done this by causing the paranoid element in our society to actually scream for stricter mental health guidelines so we can essentially lock them up in the looney bin for their own safety and treatment. Why get rid of the guns. We can just get rid of the people. Guess who's putting for this arguement. The NRA you say? The GOP you say? Everyone who says guns aren't the problem it's the people you say?
    My oh my, what's the term thrown around so often? Sheeple? Yeah, that's the one.
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  • MadAmerican
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    I would like to know how many of these calls he has gotten. Ya know that the CDC often declares an out break when there are 4-5 linked illnesses related to Ecoli or other diseases. Get real 4-5 cases in a populated area over 3 million? Sounds like these are the nuts that the government needs to check to see if thay have any guns.
  • PoliticalSpice
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    Conspiracy nuts like these are the people who guns should be conficated. Indeed, the mom of the newton shooter was an end of the world conspiracy nut. Wonder how much hearing all that paranoid conspiracy stuff all the time played into her mentally unbalanced sons thinking on that fatal day...
  • PNWest
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    @Neo_NtheMatrix Some times I just vote you up to encourage you. You seemed so depressed after the election I figured it was the least I could do.
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  • texas_cutie75
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    I feel so badly for the victims, but especially for the children that survived this. It is an impactful time in their lives, this will play a huge factor in the people they will become. I think the entire country needs to let professionals help and keep their theories to themselves for a while.
  • DARSB
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    Magical thinking, chapter 3: If there is any way to deny the reality of twenty dead first graders, then it's obviously a cynical attempt by the guv'mint to "TAKE OUR GUNS!"
  • MadAmerican
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    I can't fathom any branch of government sanctioning this, nor can I see them doing a "wag the dog" senerio. It takes a sick individual to do this and even a sicker one to think this was a hoax.
  • John_Matrix
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    I'm not buying into it either but make no mistake, our government view all of us as nothing more than numbers and taxable assets. I have no doubt they would have no problem executing such an operation morally speaking.
  • 1adam2
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    but in fact the government did sanction it, even if you cannot see how it was encouraged. because most people, do not really understand how their idolatry actually works. to take G-D out of your schools, then only the devil is left in there. cause you just removed, any little protection from G-D that they had.
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  • Dan_Tien
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    @Neo_NtheMatrix Something tells me that the people who are calling the murder of school children in Connecticut a government hoax did not vote for Obama.
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  • JoeJared
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    Why? The parent's reactions, one in particular seemingly getting into character before talking, and in accordance with cause and effect, the government playing their hand to control guns. Cause and effect guides whether I should dig deeper into a media story, simply because they are statist propaganda outlets and lack journalistic ethics. In this case, whether or not it happened is the lessor issue. The government reaction could easily drive us into a civil war.
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    Cheenoguy
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    Ever have your child murdered by a monster? Ever find out that your child just went through a great deal of fear and pain and that you will never hold them again? Could you imagine trying to speak to a reporter right after that? If not you have no clue how you would behave in that situation. Who the hell are you to judge how they appeared in that situation?
    20 children being murdered is the lessor issue to gun regulation????!!!!
    You disgust me. Thanks for proving that the government needs to do a better job keeping dangerous people from having guns.
    Go ahead and start a civil war over intelligent regulations like closing the gun show loophole. Im sure your assault rifle will be able to take down a drone.
  • JoeJared
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    @Cheenoguy I'm not challenging the story. I'm simply defining what I see that people would see as a potential problem with the story. My main concern is how the government reacts, which, if the intent continues, will likely cause a civil war. The government doesn't have a moral high ground to stand on, having killed more than a half-million children in the past 2 decades.
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    Cheenoguy
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    @JoeJared

    Listen really carefully. I will write in all caps so maybe you can understand.
    NO ONE IS TRYING TO TAKE YOUR STUPID FUCKING GUNS AWAY!!!

    Anyone who revolts over the minimal regulations that have been bantered about so far need to be executed as the traitors they are.

    Children accidentally being killed in war are exactly why we shouldn't be fighting in unnecessary wars, but if you can't see the difference between accidentally killing kids while trying to kill enemies in war and kids being shot for no discernible reason then I can't help you.

    And just in case you were referring to abortion well then you need to reevaluate your outlook if you can't see the difference between a group of cells that could become a human and actual living breathing child.
  • JoeJared
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    @Cheenoguy I wasn't referring to abortion. The real traitors to America are in government, committing acts of sedition and treason on a daily basis, I was referring, specifically to one war, Operation Desert Storm, which combined with sanctions killed a half million children in a period of a few months, a war based in lies and deception of the people of America. "They took the babies from the incubators" was a complete fabrication. Our nation has been in a state of war based on similar fabrications for more than a decade. I'm done being lied to. I'm truly sorry that you aren't, or worst case, may well be a psyop.
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  • OpEn_MiNdEd
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    This may give the perception that Right Wingers are conspiracy nuts (like some of the idiots below me). But in actuality, it cuts both ways.
  • jessejaymes
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    This conspiracy theory took place because....um....well.....beca use...(looks around).....hmmmm.....because THE DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICA MARCHES ON!! AT DOUBLE TIME!!
  • jamayla
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    Why? Because we are a hate filled society. We hate each other for any reason we can think of. I hate you because of your skin color, your religion, your sexuality, your weight, your looks, your money, your lack of money, your age, your political party, your vehicle, your children, your recycling, your lack of recycling, your shopping at Walmart, your support of proposal a, your lack of support for proposal a. And you hate me too.
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    AndrewEvans
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    Why is it that 1600 architects and engineers have called the towers falling controlled demolitions? Why did building 7 fall? How did terrorists defy the laws of physics?
  • Fishbone345
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    @AndrewEvans Building 7 fell because it was a decision of the NYFD to "Pull it", or let it go because of the extensive damage and continued burning in the building. Silverstein made the suggestion.
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