LAPD Reopens Ex-Cop Dorner's File to Combat Suspicions of Racism

They're revisiting the investigation that led to his dismissal, which he claimed was racist

The LAPD will reopen the investigation that led to Christopher Dorner's dismissal from the police force in 2007. The aim is to combat Dorner's allegations that the department acted out of racism.

"I am aware of the ghosts of the LAPD's past, and one of my biggest concerns is that they will be resurrected by Dorner's allegations of racism within the department," wrote Chief Charlie Beck statement, reported in the NYTimes.

"Therefore, I feel we need to also publicly address Dorner's allegations regarding his termination," he went on. "I do this not to appease a murderer. I do it to reassure the public that their Police Department is transparent and fair in all the things we do."

Some Black Los Angeles residents told the NYTimes that Dorner's allegations of racism in the LAPD rang true, although they condemned his violent actions.

Dorner is currently being sought for killing a police officer and a former police captain's daughter and her fiance.

Via the NYTimes.

Should the LAPD reopen Dorner's file to combat suspicions of police racism?

[Libertyiskey]

I read that he was basically dismissed because he kept filing reports pointing out corruption and abuse of power in the office and the ones who judged his cases were some that he was accusing which sounds like an extreme conflict of interest so I'm not expecting a different outcome now.

[jessejaymes]

I don't really think much will come out of this "investigation" but from where I sit the guy apparently has come valid complaints. Certainly not to the level of doing what he's done but our experience for a number of year now is the LAPD is a huge "gang" with numerous racial orientation gangs within the gang.

[PoliticalSpice]

I think he was fired for pointing out brutallity by other officers and corruption in official reports and flipped out because he was an honest person who couldn't comprehend why the complaints weren't acted upon. If the people he is targeting were involved in covering this up or corruption or brutallity I think he delivered justice and deserves a metal. For over 40 years I have followed stories and watched police get away with brutallity and murder. They almost never get punished. Its about time someone did something. If the hirer ups would have acted on the complaints none of this would have happened, blame them.

[Polusalo]

In his manifesto, it says he was dismissed because he reported "Ofcr. Teresa Evans/now a Sergeant" kicking a mentally ill, handcuffed suspect twice in the chest and once in the face. Department stated he lied and put him up to the board of rights, where they played a video where the suspect stated he was kicked by her. The father of the suspect also said he said she kicked him. They still found him guilty and terminated him.

"What they didn’t mention was that the BOR panel made up of Capt. Phil Tingirides, Capt. Justin Eisenberg, and City Attorney Martella had a signigicant problem from the time the board was assembled. Capt. Phil Tingirides was a personal friend of Teresa Evans from when he was her supervisor at Harbor station. That is a clear conflict of interest and I made my argument for his removal early and was denied. The advocate for the LAPD BOR was Sgt. Anderson. Anderson also had a conflict of interest as she was Evans friend and former partner from Harbor division where they both worked patrol together. I made my argument for her removal when I discovered her relation to Evans and it was denied."

http://boywithgrenade.org/2013/02/07/christop...

You can read the full manifesto there. It IS fairly long, though very interesting.

[bsking]

I read that too,but I also read that he was barely out of the academy when he started "whistle-blowing" which seems suspicious.

[Calfkiller]

@jessejaymes Even the chief of the L.A.P.D is saying he is a suspect. I have heard no hard evidence that he committed the crimes i.e. ballistics evidence, fingerprints, eyewitnesses, security footage nothing. What I have seen is police officers who cannot tell the difference between a grey Toyota and a metallic blue Nissan w/ two Hispanic ladies, one of them elderly, or a skinny white guy who they actually spoke to and released before attempting to murder him less than 30 seconds later. It wouldn't that big a stretch of the imagination in my opinion to imagine them shooting a black man in the dark, meaning the fiance and daughter of his Attorney. But he made threats against this man. I'm not so sure about this. What I have seen is an interview w/ a former detective of the L.A.P.D who states that he believes the manifesto was "strategically altered to support the L.A.P.D's claims" that Dorner is the perpetrator. This former detective( assuming "Dorner" hasn't killed him yet) also goes on to state that he has seen firsthand many of the claims Mr. Dorner has made, which in fact led to his decision to leave the L.A.P.D himself. I would like to see some evidence of his guilt, not someone telling me we've got badges you can trust us. Especially coming from the L.A.P.D.

[texas_cutie75]

The focus should be on capturing him, transparency issues can be dealt with at a later time .... Corner needs to be apprehended ASAP!!

[texas_cutie75]

Dorner... my tablet wants to correct me, it thinks its smarter than I am.

[NoGoodLiberal]

@texas_cutie75 It knows...

[PoliticalSpice]

If your tablet is smater then it knows that the real enemy is not Dorner, but the LAPD. Murders, corrupt, brutal, racist: the biggest street gang in Los angeles...

[NTBFW]

Even though he is completely wrong to do this he may actually have a real complaint. Who knows. If his story is true they need looked at. It may help bring him in. I don't know.

[PNWest]

Quoting Republican5001: "Hope the sambo's burn LA down....."

The GOP made up of a bunch of racists? Why would anyone think that?

You have a lot of black friends don't you?

[jessejaymes]

"hope the sambo's burn L.A. Down"? Racist much? I haven't heard the expression "sambo's" for at least 30 years. Maybe longer. You should be ashamed of yourself. I hope the moderator leave these comments up because I would like to point out that for more than 30 years now I have been called racist for opposing the rap culture violence, irresponsibility and general thuggery. My business partner for 30 years who is black, has been called an Uncle tom for opposing the same thing. But you know what man? The Rap culture is not the Black Culture. It's a stand alone culture of numerous races. And when people us try to make a difference and someone like you come along with 1950's racist terms you negate everything people like us are trying to do. There are millions of black people who get up, go to work, pay their bills and live their lives just like everyone else, doing the bet they can. And that expression is out and out offensive.

[OhWiseOne]

@PNWest Oh please. Go to the AA forum on topix and see what they call white people on there. Save your phony outrage.

[jessejaymes]

@OhWiseOne I know what some blacks call whites. And that makes it right for you to call them names? So which came first? The chicken or the plantation owner? You have a real knack for justifying racism.

[Jmotofreak72]

It's like a black guy I work with told me one time. "If I can call racism and get what I want then why wouldn't I do it?". This is all this is pulling the race card...

[Vance1]

Dorner's allegations that the department acted out of racism?
That word is used way too much, when people use that word, what it really means is that they , The ones who claim it, "Just expect something for nothing" because of the color of thier skin!!

[PoliticalSpice]

What he meant is he was fired for writing up a report stating another cop kicked someone and refused to change it. Charging racism was naive, maybe he just didn't understand it had nothing to do with race, but that the LAPD was institutionally corrupt and wouldn't tolerate it when an officer did his sworn duty and refused to cover up police brutallity. Maybe hd thought a white officer could have gotten away with refusing to cover up brutallity by another cop...

[Vance1]

@PoliticalSpice
I agree with ya

[Slambo]

What is a sambo?

[PNWest]

http://www.wordnik.com/words/sambo

[marine1]

If this is his rationale for dealing with lifes injustices, I would think he has had dificulty coping with reality for quite some time.

[ctc]

With rare exceptions everyone at sometime feels slighted, demeaned, passed over, or maybe even outright slandered....the bigger man would have persevered, pushed-on, and reestablished their name by being the person this man try's to convince us he is.
Instead....he reacts in the opposite fashion and seeks the notoriety we reserve for the recent legion of "top this" spree killers.
He's no different.

[Dan_Tien]

It is hard to believe that the only problem that he had that could have gotten him fired from the LAPD was whistle blowing and racism, now that he has killed "a police officer and a former police captain's daughter and her fiance." I should say "allegedly" killed. I am guessing that Hollywood is already working on screenplays for this story, at least one of which will show him as the victim of a vast conspiracy by white men in black suits.

[PoliticalSpice]

I like it!

[Slambo]

I don't know the whole story obviously but I would say that if you are a boss who enjoys mindfucking your employees or playing otherwise with a mans livelihood and his good name......be careful e what you wish for cause the man you mess with might just let you push him over the edge just to come after you with a vengeance later.

When I go to work or anywhere in general, I try to treat people well no matter what the deal is. I don't need to treat folks badly to feel better and I sure don't need to get anyone fired or in any sort of trouble so I end up n a hit list somewhere. That ain't what I would want but I see a lot of folks who are tyrants at work and just ruthless , thinking their actions will go on unchallenged forever.......some at the LAPD now know what their nightmare coming true is all about. I hope they all get shitty drawers !!

[RoFroh]

I understand why their doing it

[PoliticalSpice]

I understand too. They know people are gonna look into this and want to spin it in the hope of preventing a full imdependent investigation.

[RoFroh]

@PoliticalSpice your opinion

[PoliticalSpice]

@RoFroh Based on some 40 years of carefully following police corruption, brutallity and murder issues...

[RoFroh]

@PoliticalSpice ok but it's still an opinion..... And mine is your wrong, and even if your not it doesn't excuse the actions of this deranged individual.

[PoliticalSpice]

@RoFroh No but I think an insanity defense could get him aquitted with a sympathetic audience...

[HooverNiebold]

It's far more racist to hire unqualified individuals based on their race to meet quotas.

[whataGOVwehave]

I would vote this up a million times.....affirmative action is to blame here!!!

[Libertyiskey]

@whataGOVwehave You think this guy is qualified enough to be Jason Bourne right now and ex military but not qualified enough to be a police? Is it because he was ex military and therefore to honest to be a policeman because that's the only thing I can make sense of from that. Affirmative Action is a very stupid incompetent policy but if you really think this guy is responsible for being Rambo/Jason Bourne right now, if anything he was overqualified for the job.

[whataGOVwehave]

@Libertyiskey do police with prior military learn their dishonesty in the military or in the police force? FYI I am a vet.

[Libertyiskey]

@whataGOVwehave I wasn't saying he was dishonest or that all police were dishonest, but I do believe he was the honest one in this situation and an investigation by anyone other than the department or anyone associated with the department or their friends including other police departments, FBI, or any government agency will show that his accusations are true, not that it was racist but his whistle blowing would all be true b

[whataGOVwehave]

@Libertyiskey agree...the force already has a bad history.

[Blessed]

Here we go again... I'm so sick of hearing "The Little Boy Who Cried Wolf" screaming and crying RACISM every time he loses a job, gets in trouble with the law or is passed over for a promotion. But, hey, it keeps Jesse Jackson doing what he does best--- stirring up crap. The more you stir it, the more it stinks.

[rkinsawjoe]

"some black L A residents say Dorners allegations ring true" What a surprise. They obviously need to take a closer look at his dismissal and allegations but that "some black residents say his story rings true" is meaningless.

[TheJimmy]

Best case scenario at this point would be for this sociopath to have taken his own life. He's no victim of anything just another criminal without a conscience.

[ConserveUSA]

I just hope they get this murderer off the streets! I do not care what race! There are ways of handling things rather than extreme hate & murder.

[PoliticalSpice]

By murders you mean the cops whose brutality Droner was trying to expose in his reports, right?

[ConserveUSA]

@PoliticalSpice any type. Hell, extreme radical is not the way to handle things.

[PoliticalSpice]

@ConserveUSA Do you read my post? How is it you can support me?

[sylehrman]

They'll pore over their own files and reach the startling conclusion that their files support their action. How remarkable.

[Denizen_Kate]

Isn't this a bit like negotiating with a terrorist? Why would they give him the consideration for which he felt justified in killing?

[GedankPol]

PsyOps. They're probably trying to make him communicate with authorities in order to locate him when he does.

[BelinKS]

I agree reopening the file to be sure of the reason he was fired to appease the public and avoid rioting an such. But Dormer's actions now prove he should never have been a police officer. There are legal ways to address his dismissal. Murder just proves he is a criminal. But that police office is in a world of trouble now for opening fire, shooting 20 rounds at two women in a truck that looks nothing like Dormer's. Only the same maker. A Toyota Tacoma is extremely smaller than a Toyota Titan. Dormer's Titan is gray. The women's truck is blue. Toyota's bright blue! Those two trucks are easily distinguishable from each other! Neither Dormer or that police department are going to come out of this looking good. Dormer will get killed by the police because I think that state does not have the death penalty. All states that do, automatically put a cop killer on death row. The police departments officers that shot those women, who survived, should be punished to the fullest extent of the law just like an average citizen would be if they had done the same thing. You know that department, the officers involved and the state are going to be sued and loose.
If the allegations of Dormer's dismissal prove to be true, there will be hell to pay.

[Libertyiskey]

Maybe it's cause I'm a cynic but there's no doubt in my mind his allegations are true about the LAPD, and his main claim isn't racism it's abuse of power and corruption which some comes from some of the officers racism. Toyota doesn't make a Titan last I checked Nissan does so I don't believe they had that in common, wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong though. I do think he was qualified to be a police and honestly I think he was overqualified by today's standards because the way they acted, unloading multiple clips on 3 innocent civilians, has become the norm for these police. If the police weren't corrupt and covering for each others ass here I don't think this ever would have happened. This is only my opinion and since the police there haven't acted in a way to prove his allegations false I believe it to be true but like I said earlier wouldn be the first time I was wrong.

[BelinKS]

@Libertyiskey
Your right, his Titan is a Nissan, but that does not change how distinguishable the two trucks are.
If Dormer's dismissal was unwarranted, as I said, there are legal ways to address the issue. A lawsuit would have made many of the LAPD's secrets come pouring out. Instead he has killed others including a police officer. Just by killing that police officer, if he is caught in California, he will not live to see a trial. He's a dead man walking. The police there know there is no death penalty, so they will do it themselves. Proof, shooting up those women's truck. If he is captured alive in Cali I will be shocked. I never said it was a race issue in his dismissal. I think he was probably a whistle blower. But his response shows him not to be Law Enforcement material. He is taking revenge, not justice. I just pray that this all does not spark riots all over again. LA had shown time and again what they will do if they think the police have done something wrong. Dormer could have taken the legally right route and could have done some good by ridding the LAPD of some corrupt cops. Instead he is one of the most wanted men in the country and probably won't live to tell the tale.

[BelinKS]

@AllenCarltonJr
I take it that you are a conspiracy theorist. That article did not make much sense. I was just stating things as I saw them. But since you believe this way, try aiming at the White House that is systematically taking our Constitutional rights away.