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Yes, it is

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No, it's fine

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@Feb '13 c 81 comments V 234 votes

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DrSilicon voted

v Yes, it is
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May 15
debido endorsed DrFunkenstein

v Yes, it is
May 15
mimi57 voted

v Yes, it is
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May 14
buckilaked voted

v No, it's fine
May 13
joyshusband voted

v Yes, it is
May 13
DanielZ voted

v Yes, it is
May 13
Fyi1957 endorsed Thunderchicken

v Yes, it is
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May 12
smbiz voted

v Yes, it is
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May 11
URBS voted

v Yes, it is
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May 10
LilliB voted

v Yes, it is
May 9
ccchhhrrriiiss endorsed DrFunkenstein

v Yes, it is
May 7
that1guy voted

v Yes, it is
May 7
twinertia voted

v Yes, it is
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May 6
gitrdone8383 voted

v Yes, it is
May 6
Bill2E voted

v Yes, it is
May 6

Denizen_Kate

v Yes, it is

What system? If you call the mess we have now a system, you need to snag a dictionary and reacquaint yourself with that word.

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May 5
Fitz endorsed ZombieMedic

v Yes, it is
May 5
Philof endorsed ZombieMedic

v Yes, it is
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May 4

fraps

v Yes, it is

And we can thank FDR for that. Employer based health insurance was a device he used to give unions an effective pay wage when there was a government imposed wage freeze in effect. That resulted in a large class of people who had no connection to the cost of health care and excessive use of health resources. This only got worse over the years when Medicare and Medicaid were enacted. There is a solution to the problem that is simple, even if it is distasteful to some. Have all medical facilities and participants post prices for their services. The provider posts the price of their choosing. Then make everyone pay the same price for the service. No breaks for the ...

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May 2
GvtMule endorsed ST_Louie_Sue

v Yes, it is
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May 2
anc713 endorsed DrFunkenstein

v Yes, it is
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May 2

BossTweed

v Yes, it is

Now we can relax. Big Brother is taking charge. The ACA puts Committees of Progressive elites in charge of who gets how much health care........All Hail THE Obama!!!

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May 1
Deste66 voted

v Yes, it is
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Apr 30
Big_jeff endorsed ZombieMedic

v Yes, it is
Apr 30

MongoAPillager

v No, it's fine

two different questions ..do you want to know if its confusing or if works..sure if you got the dough it works,is it confusing,sure it's a paperwork nightmare,,but baby you ain't seen nothing yet

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Apr 29
darkmoonman endorsed DrFunkenstein

v Yes, it is
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Apr 29
treedcat25 endorsed DrFunkenstein

v Yes, it is
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Apr 29

Angry_man

v Yes, it is

Anything having to do with our healthcare is confusing. Accept odamnacare it's just plain bullsh--

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Apr 29
Keystroke endorsed ZombieMedic

v Yes, it is
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Apr 28

DotsonB

v Yes, it is

It's the only industry where consumers have absolutely no say.

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Apr 28

Fallstaff

v No, it's fine

NO. But it will be confusing starting next year when Comrade Obama's incredibly inept and stupid National Socialist healthcare system and taxes kick in.

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Apr 28
Mnementh voted

v Yes, it is
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Apr 28
tdogz voted

v No, it's fine
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Apr 27
blueberrysyrup voted

v Yes, it is
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Apr 27
toledodude voted

v Yes, it is
Apr 26
Dan95066 endorsed ZombieMedic

v Yes, it is
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Apr 26
Graydog endorsed DrFunkenstein

v Yes, it is
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Apr 25
RepomanGP endorsed DrFunkenstein

v Yes, it is
Apr 21
gonzoguy1987 endorsed DrFunkenstein

v Yes, it is
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Apr '13
uratoon voted

v Yes, it is
Apr '13
Utility57 voted

v Yes, it is
Apr '13
pat310 voted

v Yes, it is
Apr '13
kylemac6 voted

v Yes, it is
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Apr '13
LifeSentence voted

v Yes, it is
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Apr '13
Patriotlady endorsed DogLady_1

v Yes, it is
Apr '13
MemphisTiger89 endorsed ZombieMedic

v Yes, it is
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Apr '13
Gatnos endorsed ZombieMedic

v Yes, it is
Apr '13
kimochsner voted

v Yes, it is
Apr '13
Billsx21 voted

v Yes, it is
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Apr '13
kevink voted

v Yes, it is

May 6

Denizen_Kate

v Yes, it is

What system? If you call the mess we have now a system, you need to snag a dictionary and reacquaint yourself with that word.

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May 4

fraps

v Yes, it is

And we can thank FDR for that. Employer based health insurance was a device he used to give unions an effective pay wage when there was a government imposed wage freeze in effect. That resulted in a large class of people who had no connection to the cost of health care and excessive use of health resources. This only got worse over the years when Medicare and Medicaid were enacted. There is a solution to the problem that is simple, even if it is distasteful to some. Have all medical facilities and participants post prices for their services. The provider posts the price of their choosing. Then make everyone pay the same price for the service. No breaks for the ...

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May 2

BossTweed

v Yes, it is

Now we can relax. Big Brother is taking charge. The ACA puts Committees of Progressive elites in charge of who gets how much health care........All Hail THE Obama!!!

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Apr 30

MongoAPillager

v No, it's fine

two different questions ..do you want to know if its confusing or if works..sure if you got the dough it works,is it confusing,sure it's a paperwork nightmare,,but baby you ain't seen nothing yet

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Apr 29

Angry_man

v Yes, it is

Anything having to do with our healthcare is confusing. Accept odamnacare it's just plain bullsh--

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Apr 28

DotsonB

v Yes, it is

It's the only industry where consumers have absolutely no say.

B1

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Apr 28

Fallstaff

v No, it's fine

NO. But it will be confusing starting next year when Comrade Obama's incredibly inept and stupid National Socialist healthcare system and taxes kick in.

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Mar '13

RETUSAF95

v Yes, it is

The US does not have a health care system, they have a health care market where you buy care, no money no care.

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Mar '13

GeorgiaSean7

v Yes, it is

Our healthcare system would be solved if we simply did away with insurance. Most doctors I go to do not accept health insurance. I pay $49 on average in cash per visit, and visits are quick, efficient, and effective. Health insurance creates corporate bureaucracy which hikes costs. Just eliminate health insurance and have everyone pay cash. All of a sudden, people will only go to the doctor when necessary and doctors can still make a decent living; everyone is happy.

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Feb '13

tomtheterrible

v Yes, it is

It is so much double talk that it must have been written by a Philadelphia lawyer, like all government documents. They are afraid that if put simply, we would all realize what they are up to for the long run. Yes and No would be adequate responses.

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Feb '13

JBSmith

v Yes, it is

Did you catch the law enforcement partnering with CSB article in the Pilot Online. What they really mean is Va.Beach Psych and others have new stabilization wards. The wards are the "Gitmo" of the state. They take you there and torture you. They flat-lined me multiple times. Dr. Stephen Cunningham told me it was "state" police. See they take you out of the local police jurisdiction so state police have to be involved, away from your family, attorney, and friends - to isolate you. The CSB's are complicit in the torture along with Va.Bch. Psych and Riverside. I went to the ER with a heart attack and ended up 5 days there. They tell you it is all paid for - I don't qualif...

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Feb '13

MACvSOG

v Yes, it is

Ever since Obama has been in office my healthcare costs have risen over a thousand dollars PER YEAR, to now paying $ 8500 per year !!!! PATHETIC !

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Feb '13

Eagle1

v No, it's fine

To vote no I had to agree its fine. I wish the possible selections were just yes/no. The system is conflicted and difficult to understand and needs to be changed but understanding the system is critical to its repair.

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Feb '13

commonsense51

v Yes, it is

Nancy Pelosi (a laughable Liberal) said we will just have to pass Obamacare and then we will find out what's in it. Pelosi, Reid and Obama should be tried and impeached for the lies they spewed about Obamacare. Do you folks think $20,000 per year for a family health plan is cutting the cost of healthcare like those corrupt liars told us? How much more will the middle class have to pay for ALL THE PEOPLE who can not afford Obamacare? Democrats, where is your outrage? Pressure these Democrat Senators to change this hideous piece of legislation.

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Feb '13

Philoktetes

v Yes, it is

Too much govt interference.

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Feb '13

neopatriot

v Yes, it is

There is no such thing as the "US health care system." There are pharma, health care and insurance companies that make lots of money by making you sick, providing unnecessary procedures and finding reasons not to pay for it respectively. There is also a new law that requires you to pay ($20,000 per year for a family of 4 by 2020) to receive these services whether you want it or not. I guess it's not that confusing after all...

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Feb '13

Tralee

v Yes, it is

Meaning Obamacare? Heck yes! It makes no sense at all, has about a million pages and obscure rules and tons of unintended consequences. EXACTLY what republicans said would happen. Obama et. al. were so hot to trot to get out some form of Universal Health Care, Obama's Legacy you know, that they took no time to actually pay any attention to what they were doing. It's a royal mess, going to cost way more than even stated and the cost has been revised up so many times it's obvious no one really knows the effect of this on the general public. Rationing will be the only way to keep costs within the realm of even high costs.

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Feb '13

mwr

v Yes, it is

put in some tort limit laws to stop all the lawyers from getting rich off the meidcal world and we will not need obama care, it will be easier to understand, it will be cheaper, and maybe even better. Doctors will not be afraid to talk to us or always fearing a lawsuit..

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Feb '13

Clara007

There's nothing confusing about our health care system. It's our health insurance that's confusing.

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mwr

@Clara007 good observation, and a limit on tort laws would clean that industry up also :)

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BetsYrOSs5119

v Yes, it is

I am a registration specialist in a local hospital, and I spend a lot of time explaining how things work and why they're so much money. A lot of people already understand it better than they think they do, but it's so mulit-layered that it's hard to keep it all in order in your head. While it's frustrating that a domineering Mom wants her kid to have an MRI because Johnny had 3 headaches this week and obviously can't open a bottle of Motrin, she fails to understand that MRI equipment is delicate, expensive to run, and expensive to maintain. The word Siemens should put that into perspective for you. But she'll b!tch anyhow, won't she?

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Feb '13

Mose

v Yes, it is

Like every other proposal in the last 5 years...senseless, too.

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DrFunkenstein

v Yes, it is

It's not confusing if you are rich but the other 99% deal with high costs, long waits, and death panels that every insurance company have that deny claims and life saving procedures. We are the only civilized nation that sees health care as a "For Profit" industry so we have synergy in our food, pharmaceutical and health industry to keep Americans unhealthy.

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Feb '13

ZombieMedic

v Yes, it is

Once lawyers started writing the healthcare laws, taking over the healthcare industry and the pharmaceutical industry, then confusing became a given.

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Feb '13

bigruss

v No, it's fine

What is confusing about it? If you are sick, go to the doctor. People make it confusing, and thanks to Obama, it will become confusing when all of his plan is in effect.

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Feb '13

seedtick

v Yes, it is

The healthcare "system" is not really that. There is no "system." You either have insurance that you purchase, you have Medicare, use Veteran's benefits, or you let taxpayer dollars pay for it. It's not too damned confusing. The real confusing thing is the lack of personal responsibility exhibited by many people. We need a "system" to fix that.

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ErnestPayne

v Yes, it is

Compared to health care systems in the civilised world it is bizarrely complex. No one cuts the gordian knot they merely add another layer of complexity, confusion, and cost.

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Feb '13

ST_Louie_Sue

v Yes, it is

It's a cluster fluck of rules and regs that no one understand unless you have a PhD from Insurance University or a MENSA membership. Obamacare is only gonna make it that much more confusing unless you're terminal then it's "happy pills" until you die.

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Feb '13

LGRepublican

v Yes, it is

Confusing is an understatement. Look at the rates. If you have insurance, you pay one price, paying cash is another, using medicare is another, and so on. If you have insurance, the price you pay not only reflects your services, but a percentage from those who just decided not to pay their bills. The prices they charge vary depending on who they've negotiated with and how much they think they can get away with. All that doesn't even go into the billing games they play. Go to the emergency room and you're likely to get "emergency" costs, then "physician" costs charged separately so they don't have to bill everything under the emergency deductible. The whole thing is a g...

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Feb '13

Blessed

v Yes, it is

It is not only confusing but unfair. While the elderly and retired pay for Medicare and any supplimental insurance they might have, they still have co-pays and deductibles. The young and lazy, especially the babymakers, pay nothing for Medicaid, have no co-pay or deductible and make visiting the emergency room for an ingrown toenail, a cough, cut or scrape a weekly outing. Fix that problem and we will be on our way to saving trillions of dollars that can be used by folks who deserve it.

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Feb '13

Thunderchicken

v Yes, it is

It's not so much confusing as there is a lack of communication.

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Feb '13

Wait-----what

After all, there is no profit in a cure. Pharmaceutical companies have a responsibility to their shareholders, not to the recipients of the medication, and therein lies the problem. Your health gets put on the back burner just so someone that's already making five to six times your salary or more per year can have that extra 1% profit that they so desperately need. It's no wonder why other countries hate us....look at how we treat our people.

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