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    The 500 billion cut from defense LAST YEAR.

    This is ridiculous to cry about 85 billion dollars..when they speedily granted 68 BILLION to storm "victims"
    and another 30 billion to extend welfare...unemployment,AGAIN.
    not one word about that money.
    Theis mess (if indeed it even is one) was intended by this president. It was introduced by him and last year when HIS APPOINTED SUPER-SENATORS...couldn't get a thing done the president said he would veto any bill aiming to STOP THE SEQUESTER.
    now the snake is using his bootlickers in the state run media to once again confuse the low information voter.
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    And lets be honest there are no CUTS IN SPENDING PENDING.There is simply very slightly less spending growth. its not a bad thing to furlow some government workers...they already make three times what the same worker makes in the REAL WORLD!
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    @bsking - I couldn't make it through the entire article (I want to be careful with my blood pressure). Is there anything in there actually worth reading?
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    Let's see how fast McCain starts crying after Apache Helicopter plant layoffs and the VA, ME and MS GOP contingents are already yelling about NIMBY shipbuilding layoff's. The Lady Lindsey will go bonkers with defense losses in the Carolina's.
    Boehner can't negotiate with Obama because he can't deliver on what he negotiates.
    Power politics BSking: Why would you stop the Sequester when politically speaking when you have the opposition party looking like bumbling fools and in total disarray. Strategically don't you hit your opponent when they are the weakest.
    Who do you think the people will blame waiting in line for canceled flights due to no air traffic, or security delays. The feckless GOP will get blamed and '14 looks like a loser for all the radical right wingers
    I know you blame the poor for the loss of the middle class and it's the fault of the poor that income disparity between workers and the CEO has never been so great, Oh course, it's the poor's fault that corp. profits are at record levels as is CEO's pay. Maybe if we closed some loophole companies like GE and Facebook would pay taxes. Maybe Corps would give up their incentive to move jobs off shore. Maybe we could pay off a little of the debt if we closed just a few loopholes
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    off topic Deal on the Ferrari Mon fell thru on inspection. Service records couldn't be confirmed a 7k service they said was no was not and they wouldn't negotiate on it
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    Who considers 85 Billion in "cuts" to be "massive"? LMAO That is less than 2.5% of the proposed budget. On a personal level, that would be like the average person making $40,000/yr not spending $1000 for the year, or taking a $1000 paycut for the year. I think the government can manage without that 85 Billion just fine, and should be able to cut WAY more than that! They spend 85 Billion in just 3 days!
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    Americans need to start voting out these spendthrift politicians and letting them know that there had better be some tough and REAL CUTS to spending now, because the longer we wait, the harder it will be to make cuts, and the further down the country will go. It almost seems that ruining this country as fast as possible is the actual agenda at hand. Agenda 21 perhaps? New World Order finally on the fasttrack?
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    I'm most worried about ??? cuts that cause inflation. Recently I was able to increase my food consumption to one small meal per day. Inflation will lead to price increases on food. One small meal per day will be a fantasy if the price of food goes up.
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    i just love it when people use words that are aimed at confusing people, only.

    fiscal 'cliff' sounds really scary, doesn't it?
    sequestration obfuscation... what does this even mean?
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    I don't think it is going to happen. With expenditures totaling in the trillions, an 85 billion cut over 10 years is a drop in the bucket. A lot of what is being said in the media are simply scare tactics as agencies try to protect their bureaucratic empires.
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    Defense. This what Obama wanted. He needs to realize compromise is not doing only what he wants. It's time for real spending cuts. The republicans gave him his tax increase.
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    We already spend a fortune on education. We need to get out money's worth. I agree we need better schools but we need to figure out why we aren't getting a better return on our investment. The teachers union is the first place I would look. But if you can figure out how to get our money's worth I am for spending what we need.
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    @NTBFW If we payed for everyone to got to public college for free (which would still monly be a fraction of what we spend on defencse), then we would save a lot of money long-term because there would be very few people dropping out for financial reasons and no one defaulting on federal loans.
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    @GodlessLiberal why don't we just disband the entire military? To hell with a defense dept. who needs an army? That seems the liberal answer to every thing. And tax the rich.
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    @NTBFW I never said anything about dismantling the military, which will always be a vital part of this country. But 50 or 60 billion off the top of an already bloated defense budget to help pay for higher education would not hurt the military at all. And yes, taxing the rich their fair share is not only right, but necessary.
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    @GodlessLiberal I just had a tax increase. How much more do you want? All of it? And if you cut the defense budget you might as well shut it down. If it can't do it's job why have it. I pay my damn fair share. And more. When it's all totaled up I pay around $.50 on the dollar. If that's not enough then I may as well sell out and live off capital gains. I am trying to save enough to pay the inheritance tax for my kids so they won't have to sell off there fourths of my farm to pay it when I die. I may sound greedy but we worked our asses off worked smart and built a nice life from nothing. I resent the hell out of people saying I don't pay my fair share. I will trade tax bills with you anytime. See how fair you think it is then.
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    Traditionally when the "political morons" on capital hill speak of "spending cuts" they are trying to make you think they are actually REDUCING what they are currently spending. Bull Shirt. They are arguing about how much to INCREASE our current spending. It's going to go up anyway. The "sequester" is a lie. The "cliff" is a lie. And the bull crap about people "losing jobs" is a lie. Our politicians need to quit lying to the American people and speak plainly. YOU ARE BEING LIED TO.
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    well said! "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money" -- Alexis de Tocqueville
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    It's kinda interesting to note that the big chatter is about laying people off and not about eliminating fraud and overcharging in supplying the military and stopping 'benefits' for illegals. Correct those latter two points and the budget 'crisis' would be moot.
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    it does not matter. when the Fed prints money like it is going out of style (which it will be), there is nothing to hold the hacks in check. get rid of your own debt, increase your savings, and rely on yourself.
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    The cuts that worry me the most are the needed cuts that won't happen. While politicians are bellyaching about the effect of $1B in cuts, the country goes another $1T in debt.
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    Let the sequester begin. It is the ONLY chance in the entire next 4 years that we have to suffer under Obama that there will EVER be any cuts. Higher taxes for all are on the way, courtesy of the Idiot in Chief, who thinks he can tax the American public all the way to prosperity. That and inflation. You ain't seen nothing yet. Jimmy Carter style inflation is on the way. I predict 2 years, just about midterm of this Obama chapter, and we have runaway inflation. Remember 20%+ per year inflation? Your paychecks were going up, but the darn prices were going up twice as fast. This will be the legacy of Obama, and it will take another Reagan and some very tough years to right the ship after the liberals finish their latest attempt to destroy the country.
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    If it does...we will suffer a very significant double-dip recession and possibly a depression....Just basic macro-economics.
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    @Sonny So, the loss to the economy of roughly 86 Billion due to Obama's recent tax increase had no effect, but the cut of 85 Billion due to the Sequester will create a disaster....Sounds like Liberal math to me. Tax increases cause no harm to the economy, but any cuts in spending cause a disaster....Right.....
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    @Grubby Well, first of all I disagree with your characterization of the tax situation. It was not a "loss to the economy". In fact, if anything it will be just the opposite. You see tax dollars and, thus, public money are then spent in the economy on behalf of the people of a country, and that means that money will be injected into the economy and turned over several times to generate sales and revenues and salaries in the economy...Just the opposite effect of what you suggest.
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    @Grubby Well you needn't remain ---clueless, my friend...just stick with me. I will help you to better understand the key issues of the day....My pleasure to do so.
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    All of them....Because right now, because of the very slow economy. The only thing that is preventing us from a double-dip recession or depression is government expenditures. We should take a page from Great Britain and Japan on this. Because they instituted "cuts" in a similar manner that the Republicans and right wing are now demanding...And it caused them to slide back into a deeper recession....We need to learn from those mistakes and not go down the path of "deep cuts" right now.
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    I absolutely agree with this statement: "...voters continue to naively elect and reelect members of Congress whose political self-interests supersede the interests of the people whom they purport to represent." I do not think that sequestration is the end of the world or will suddenly cause al qaeda to take over the United States as some seem to think. The sequestration will not effect obligations already made... it just alters future growth in certain arenas. We already spend too much on the military and I think we expect our military to do too much world policing... Why the heck do we need US military bases in hundreds of countries around the globe??? No, it's time our congress stopped listening to AIA and pay attention to what is best for all of us, not just the defense industry... And how secure do you think we are if China decided to call in its loans all of a sudden and we have no way to pay? Bottom line, our congress just loves to spend our money... and they would lose alot of personal wealth if they do not obey the lobbyists who tell them to spend more of our money... I really like the way Norquist put it: "Spending is what politicians do instead of caring."
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    I worry about the cuts that will cripple govt spending and send us back into a recession.

    If my congresspersons are part of the problem, then I will be voting to replace them at the next opportunity.
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    How quickly some people point out that we are not a Democracy, we are a Republic. We continue to use the Electoral College because the common people cannot be trusted to elect the right candidates. that would be "mob rule". Only specially selected candidates are available during elections either. No common citizen really has a chance to get elected for any position without backing from a national political apparatus. So why do we even have elections at all? So that the ultimate blame for anything that goes wrong can be placed squarely where it BELONGS.

    "So who's to blame for this precarious predicament? We all are. Just take a look in the mirror.

    Why? Because voters continue to naively elect and reelect members of Congress whose political self-interests supersede the interests of the people whom they purport to represent."
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