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    @ErnestPayne we used to win wars when we fought t wars to win.. and of course without interference from limp wristed European socialists .
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    Hilarious. Another amurikan who slept through every high school history class and neither learned nor read anything afterwards. Alone, and unaided, since 1898 the only war you won on your own was the Spanish American War against the decrepit Spanish Empire. Let me know when you win in Viet Nam, Iraq, or Afghanistan. Oh, and please, no "we can nukem" nonsense.
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    @ErnestPayne Gee, who slept through history class here? WWI, WWII, both WON by a combined effort and ONLY when the US stepped in and provided more men and weapons and skill. Those wars were fought to the end, a winner declared and a victory obtained. Without US help, the French would be fluent in German now. It's laughable that the left, who enjoys the freedoms American men and women died to procure for them, are the first to stand up, raise their fist in the air, and denigrate those very people that guaranteed them the right to be an A.H. As to Afghanistan, Obama did his usual, he voted "Present", declared the war "over" and is leaving. The heck with keeping the peace. Irag is failing because he was too late at negotiating a peace keeping force, as was planned, and will soon be in league with Iran, who will soon have an atomic bomb, at which point you may want to build yourself a nice bomb shelter. Stern letters and offers of friendship will not deter them.
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    @ErnestPayne

    Technically the incidences of which you speak are conflicts and we weren't alone and unaided in those either!!!
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    The way the americans are doing it with indiscriminate attacks on "suspected" insurgents? Yes. Anybody remember the 5 o'clock follies? The way the Brits are doing it with small battlefield drones? No.
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    Better question, how about our military to use drone strikes on targets that are imminent threats and as a last resort, with minimum to no collateral damage?...and as long as innocent civilians aren't getting mangled, that's not how you win the hearts and minds of citizens of a sovereign nation.
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    @bsking ANY nation that support,condones or contributes to those that would do us harm deserves NO consideration. That would include the local people in general that are aware and say nothing. That would make them accessories before and after the fact.
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    Absoulty not ,it is the only way we can get rid of the ones we want without killing a lot of women and kids that have done nothing wrong and are completely innocent.
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    I don't like obama turning war into a simple video game. There is something inherently unholy about that method. However, the liberals on this site are adamant that we just bomb random villages and kill innocent women and children with no regard to the pain and heartache and blow back this will create. Doesn't the liberal "hands off" style of war that has no goal to accomplish remind you of the terrorists themselves? No wonder liberals have such an affinity for terrorists, they think just like them.
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    ah neo, you know...i normally ignore your clearly partylined and ignorant posts, but this one...just a little to far from the truth. Liberals didnt create the war. The article clearly mentioned most democrats do not support this kind of warfare. now that thats cleared up, let me ask this. now that you have a symbol to project upon, what is the difference between a jdam artillery strike and a hellfire missle from a drone. both project payloads over long distances. the drone actually has like 6 cameras observing every situation and it is controlled by a human. it is the policies of which the drone can be used of which we all have a problem. but no, lets not pay attention to common sense or do any thinking for ourselves. lets just say the most uninformed and propaganda driven thing we can possibly come up with. "the liberals on this site are adamant that we just bomb random villages and kill innocent people" you have not one inkling of evidence of this or do you even know what your talking about. fact. the policies of the middle eastern war has been under bi-partisan counil if not right leaning since the beginning of the war. you are the reason i cannot support republican policies 100 percent. you are the reason this nation is divided. you are worse than the media because you do not even hide the fact that your blatantly lying. im actually half convinced that you are a person making fun of right only leaning partyliners.
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    "I don't like obama turning war into a simple video game. There is something inherently unholy about that method. "

    You know, Bill Maher got fired for saying much the same thing. Is that you, Bill? C'mon, it's all right, you can come out of your "Neo" disguise. ;)
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    I disagree with this view. Drone attacks are newer than attacks by manned missile carrying aircraft, but they are basically the same thing. They are just much less likely to result in the death or capture of US airmen. The arguments against drone attacks are simply the same arguments against warfare. Stop the war if you want to stop using war strategies that kill people, but do not continue fighting wars while sending US troops into combat with their hands tied because it makes you feel better about yourselves.
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    The drones are in effectively robots, replacing flesh and blood U.S. Service personal on the battlefield, thereby saving American lives.
    I am all for drones on the battlefield used against the enemy.
    I am opposed to using them against our own citizens on American oil. I am opposed to Police using them to spy on citizens without a warrant.
    I am not opposed to using them against U.S. citizens on foreign soil aiding and abetting the enemy. If you lie with dogs you get fleas. If you lie with terrorists, you get drones.
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    @PNWest

    And ruin soldiers lives who fly them. At least one had to walk away from his position due to the trama of watching women and children die from his orders.
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    @NavinRJohnson Very true. I am sure that operating these drones is a horribly stressful job. Hopefully these guys will get the help that they need. However - at least these guys can WALK away from the job without their legs being blown off by IEDs.
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    With congress already having declared war, the use of drones should be restricted to only those places Obama and his administration have determined they should be used. If you don't like it, too bad. Ron Paul wasn't elected.
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    @AceLuby - signed into law on 9/18/01 - "...the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons." - Call it what you want, this is a declaration of war.
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    @AceLuby - "...those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons,..."
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    Lol! Let's keep randomly blowing up kids and innocent people in our effort to kill some Obama identified "bad guys". That will definitely win us favor around the world.

    Then consider that the downed drones are current being reverse analyzed...the controls are being identified...and soon the "bad guys" will have the same technology.

    You ready for "death from the Middle East" delivered via drone strike to anywhere they identify an enemy?

    After all..."All is fair in love and war."
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    Is it really any different than having kids hopped up on speed manning helicopters and fighter jets dropping bombs on identified 'bad guys'? You know... the thing we've been doing for 10 years?
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    @AceLuby - I think the bigger point is delivering this high tech weaponry into the hands of "our enemies". With current science, the reverse analyzation and build times should make drones available to the "bad guys" in a year to 18 months.
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    @AceLuby - http://www.slashgear.com/drone-drama-as-briti... -- Drone drama as British military admits hundreds of lost UAVs -

    - http://iraqdinar.us/downed-drone-in-its-airsp... -- Iran announces downed drone in its airspace -

    - http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/02/06/28761... -- Taliban say a US drone downed in SW Afghanistan --

    It's only a matter of time before reverse engineering allows our "enemies" to deploy these same tactics on American soil.
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    @AntiPorcheria Iran would never attack us and how many drones do you think a ragtag bunch of terrorists are going to make? I won't even get into the fact how silly it is to think a drone could even enter our airspace.
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    After all the liberal whining about waterboarding and any other form of torture to extract helpful information from foreign terrorists whose aim was to kill as many Americans as possible, why aren't they up in arms about this? This is worse than waterboarding.

    To me, if obama gets the okay to do this, who's to say he won't expand on his own and use them here in our country. For him the Constitution is just an old piece of paper someone wrote on a long time ago.

    And yes, I've been told he's a Constitutional lawyer, but I just don't see it.
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    Why are you comparing torture to war tactics? Drones are no different than sending manned jets and dropping bombs, so if the bombs are going to be dropped (which they have been for a decade), why not drop them w/out risking US lives? I understand if you are against the war on terror and would prefer no bombs being dropped at all (which is my stance), but I don't see how this relates at all to torture.
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    @AceLuby Agree with not using any bombs or planes at all. It's a sissy way to fight. There'd be less wars if people had to face the people they call their enemies, instead of hiding behind computers. It no longer takes courage to fight in a war or be a soldier if they fight with drones and such.
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    @AceLuby
    I so love the way people like you take a statement and spin it to mean something not at all intended. I merely compared the liberal whining about the waterboarding to their silence about this.
    I am not against the war on terror, I just don't think this president and Congress should be the ones making decisions and running it. They're the very ones who lost Viet Nam for us. You just can't run a war from a plushy seat in the vaulted halls of Congress and the White House.
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    @Bambi They are two different things. One is a war crime that has been banned internationally, yet was recently deemed 'legal' by some lawyers in DC. The other is a war tactic to keep US citizens from having to fly dangerous missions. The alternatives are to not bomb at all, or send in manned aircrafts, risking American lives. Since you are not against the war on terror, which one would you prefer?

    I also think you need to do a little bit of studying on why congress is in charge of declaring war, who is in charge of our military, and the reason why we lost Vietnam, despite defeating them 10:1. I'll give you a hint... if someone invaded our country like we did Vietnam, how difficult would you think it would be for them to control us... we'd all die before being ruled by an outsider...
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    As things get worse in America the Govt will need Drones to keep us toeing the Party line. As we lose more and more of our freedoms and are forced to pay more and more and more to support the endless demands of Big Government many Americans won't be happy campers.
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    It keeps getting down played, but the Benghazi Embassy attack was claimed to be in responce to drone attacks. I am also wondering if most Democrats realize just how wide spread is our use of drones.
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    Drones are a double-edged sword. As they are not human, if shot down, the US does not incur a casualty. The other side is that we have to account for both human as well as electro-mechanical error in the prosecution of their duties. Overall, as the technology progresses, I think the good will outweigh the bad, however, real intel is much harder to gain by machine.
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    If we drop a bomb during war, Unfortunantly civilians are killed. Same thing may happen if one of our soldiers on the ground shoots a shoulder fired missile. I am glad the drones have saved American soldiers lives, and reget civilian deaths. War is Hell!
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    At what point did it become OK to use a bomb, missile, or rocket to take out a single target in a civilian area?
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    No. They shouldn't. If they've created a whole new group of insurgents, then we'll just have to create a whole new group of drones! I don't think we should be fighting any wars, anywhere, but if we persist in being there, then protect our men and women to the max. People that use mentally-ill people as human suicide bombers, regularly kill even people who are trying to help them by providing their children with injections to prevent polio and other diseases, and hijack passenger airliners to murder 3,000 Americans don't have a right to complain about "fairness" or combat etiquette.
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    They should be eliminated. They are an abomination.

    It is bad enough that Congress no longer declares war on nations, and that we have stopped to "declaring" war on a concept (e.g. "terrorism").

    If you have any doubt that drone warfare should be called off, think of this... Would you support Pakistan hunting down their "enemies of the state", without benefit of charge or trial, in US airspace using drones? How would you feel if your family became collateral damage due to a drone strike against the neighbors?

    This is an inept strategy.
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    Drones should only be used to assist an army in an actual war. Using them for a police action is outrageous to me. You want to use a war machine, then declare a war! And there is no clear evidence that they are actually helping our troops because they draw fire, not deter it. Drones kill innocent people... what's the point of this fancy technology if it isn't going to save lives? And the intelligence they collect is only as good as the humans that interpret it. Just sayin'...
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    The moron in the White House absolutely needs to be restricted. Killing terrorists is a good thing, if that is as far as it goes. But the vindictive bastard Obama is just one step away from flying them over America to take out his political enemies and start a civil war. Be careful if you assume that you would be safe from this emerging dictator.
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