7 hr Keyjo v Yes, it can A better question would be, "Can escape from justice be bought in America?" How else can you explain Dick Cheney and Wall Street bankers NOT being in prison? Post
May 11 NoAmnestyEVER v Yes, it can I think ANYTHING can be bought in American, including the last presidential election which was bought and paid for by promising illegal aliens amnesty. Post
May 4 PJS1973 v Only in a few cases I think OJ got away with murder (literally), but Mike Tyson got railroaded...money certainly helps your defense, but its not a guarantee. r1 reply Post
u May 3 fraps v Yes, it can To the extent there is actual justice, it is difficult to be bought. But most of the departments dealing with justice from the courts, to the prosecutors, and the police have been shown to falsify evidence, hide evidence that is helpful to the defense, or even outright lie. My personal experience has 2 situations where I proved to the judges satisfaction the police officer testifying against me lied. An honest judge would have had the police officer arrested and charged with perjury. It did not happen. Post
May 2 tomtheterrible v Yes, it can If you look at history in this country you will see there has never been justice. Maybe as far as Judeo/Christians are concerned but there are many that do not think along these particular lines. Exceptions are made by all government agencies, all churches and most of the public. Look at the wealthy who paid duty to Rome for marriage annulments, and other obsolete "sins" We cannot cast stones but facts are facts and I have never met a man that couldn't be bought. r4 replies Post
7 hr Keyjo v Yes, it can A better question would be, "Can escape from justice be bought in America?" How else can you explain Dick Cheney and Wall Street bankers NOT being in prison? Post
May 11 NoAmnestyEVER v Yes, it can I think ANYTHING can be bought in American, including the last presidential election which was bought and paid for by promising illegal aliens amnesty. Post
May 4 PJS1973 v Only in a few cases I think OJ got away with murder (literally), but Mike Tyson got railroaded...money certainly helps your defense, but its not a guarantee. r1 reply Post
u May 14 fayban billionaires and millionaires get pardons from presidents often. Research it you may be surprised. Post @fayban
u May 3 fraps v Yes, it can To the extent there is actual justice, it is difficult to be bought. But most of the departments dealing with justice from the courts, to the prosecutors, and the police have been shown to falsify evidence, hide evidence that is helpful to the defense, or even outright lie. My personal experience has 2 situations where I proved to the judges satisfaction the police officer testifying against me lied. An honest judge would have had the police officer arrested and charged with perjury. It did not happen. Post
May 2 tomtheterrible v Yes, it can If you look at history in this country you will see there has never been justice. Maybe as far as Judeo/Christians are concerned but there are many that do not think along these particular lines. Exceptions are made by all government agencies, all churches and most of the public. Look at the wealthy who paid duty to Rome for marriage annulments, and other obsolete "sins" We cannot cast stones but facts are facts and I have never met a man that couldn't be bought. r4 replies Post
May 4 PJS1973 Tom, I don't understand what you are saying? You said there has never been justice in the US (pretty strong statement!); while there has certainly been injustice, and there is today as well, there has been justice since "Americans" (regardless of your definition of the word) have been here. Our system of laws and government was the model for the rest of the "free world"; if there is no justice here, can you name a country where there is, and provide an explanation? Thanks! Post @PJS1973
May 4 tomtheterrible @PJS1973 I wouldn't know where to turn. There have been charlatans in our society since we have been able to reason and somehow or another they manage to get into all positions of power that control the government and everything else. The Rothschild family are a good example, but certainly not alone. > I would love a free, independent, honorable society but realize that as long as there is greed and a need for power we will never be free as a nation or a world. If you believe in fairy tales Adam and Eve are a great example. All was fine until God made woman to keep man company and then they were persuaded to eat from the tree of knowledge. Couldn't be happy with ... Post @tomtheterrible
May 4 PJS1973 @tomtheterrible I'm going back to your initial statement (and my first question) that there has never been justice in this country. Your rationale uses Rome and Biblical / ancient (depending on your religious views) examples...I think you are saying that due to human nature, no one (in any country) will have justice. Is that correct? If so, I cannot argue that, anymore than people can argue about religion. But, if you think that in the US there is injustice while in other countries there is justice, I ask for an example. I've traveled the world a fair bit, and have yet to see a better system. Thanks! Post @PJS1973
May 4 tomtheterrible @PJS1973 That is exactly what I was trying to say. Top dog gets the biggest bone. This has always been true and since we will soon no longer have a middle class it will become a real dog eat dog world. I don't see justice anywhere. All is taken by the big guy and we, who are strong enough, will pick u the remains. No I don't think anywhere in the world is better but I am sure that we have many, many improvements to make to our own system that we constantly brag about to the world. Good talking with you and thanks!! An old cliché "life is not fair and not a bowl of cherries". Tom B1 Post @tomtheterrible
Apr 29 Skid-roader v Only in a few cases If only you will spend the money on a good attorney and do most of the leg work yourself. The biggest mistake that the people make with hiring an attorney is that they themself's won't prepare for and do research of the law in question. The lawyer should mainly be use to speak your case in front of the judge and jury. Most people know if they have a case or not, so use the law library and see where you stand and then and only then hire the attorney after pointing out the law in your case. If not then you pay that attorney to research what you should already know after a visit to the law book and law in question. Post
Apr 29 Russell797 v Yes, it can Money talks. Given that the poor can not afford a high priced lawyer, they are at a distinct disadvantage in court where crafty, experienced lawyers can reach into their bag of tricks in their effort to manipulate a jury to their side of an argument. The real question should be, how do we prevent this inequity. Logically trained, professional jurors would help to see through the manufactured veil of confusion created by opposing lawyers. Post
u Apr 27 pboucher v Yes, it can First, look at the prison population. IMHO, there aren't any rich peeps doing time. Next we have the prisons themselves. There are country club prisons and hard core prisons with varying degrees in between. Finally we look at the justice system itself with high priced lawyers for those who can afford them and over worked public defends for the rest of use. Again with varying degrees in between. See the coorelation? Money, money, money. Post
Apr '13 Glich v No, it can't Its often rented. Our system is too Political and all Politicians and lawyers can be rented. Post
Apr '13 awrub v Yes, it can The majority of people in the United States or anywhere can be bought for a price It is the trend in some countries like the Philippines Post
u Apr '13 jsh62ok v Yes, it can Its Wrong but Its seems anything can be bought. That even on the basic level a Good privately paid for lawyer beats the hell out a Public one Post
Apr '13 blondegirl214 v Yes, it can Of course it can be. Not "can" be- it IS. Thats how our system works. The scales are tipped to the side which holds the most money thrown on it for a defense. Has not one damn thing to do with the truth or justice being served. Has to do with who is a better liar; oops lawyer; the bigger the pay out, the better the lie. And the best liar wins. Been that way since day one- Lady Justice is blind for a reason; if she doesn't see the shameful crap going on, she can't be held accountable. How convenient. Post
Mar '13 Jmotofreak72 v Yes, it can With the right amount of money and a mix of social standing anything can be bought. B1 r2 replies e46 endorsed Post
Mar '13 Speedieg v Yes, it can Yes it very plain this happens on a daily basis. The rich get off lightly and the poor and minorities serve hard time. Only in the most egregious public spectacles do the rich get equal treatment. B1 r1 reply e25 endorsed Post
u Mar '13 Kellso v Yes, it can TRUE JUSTICE cant be bought but unfortunately, there is VERY little true justice in this world any more... B2 e7 endorsed Post
Mar '13 DavidC85 v Yes, it can Are there really people naive enough to believe that this justice system genuinely works for altruistic reasons? What about all the cases where celebrities are caught with drugs and just get rehab whilst Joe Schmo or Jane McClain get caught with a dime's worth of weed and they're busted for years. B2 e3 endorsed Post
Mar '13 Ryuo v Only in a few cases We're better at Rule of Law than any other civilization, but we're not perfect. The big threat to Rule of Law now is the very people we have chosen to enforce it - people like the Department of Justice. Hopefully the abuse of the legal system will only last another 4 years. B2 r2 replies e3 endorsed Post
u Mar '13 Slowmo v Yes, it can It can and is everyday. And it's not just limited to being bought with money. People are shown partiality because of who they know, groups that they belong to, the "good ole boy club" (my sworn enemy), their sex or race..etc. There are a lot of questions that rank higher in priority than the one about "whats right or wrong". B2 e2 endorsed Post
Mar '13 Fallstaff v Yes, it can Yes, a person can buy their way out of legal problems. All you have to do is look at Michael Jackson and see how he was able to walk away from obvious homosexual child molestation charges. B1 r3 replies e1 endorsed Post
o Mar '13 Republican5150 v Yes, it can Axelrod bought Obama a 2nd term from uneducated, overly emotional minorities and gays. Why can't someone buy a not guilty verdict. B2 Post
u Mar '13 tomincali v Yes, it can heck that was proven with the banks and the cartel money,showing this very thing. there is no true justice it is all about who you know and how much money you can throw around. it is not justice it is all about corruption when money gets a person off of any charges,yet nothing is ever done about the corrupt it shows all involved just as crooked. real justice and legal justice are not the same thing. B1 e1 endorsed Post