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    Trading safety for freedoms? One of the founders would be turning in his grave right now.....we're unworthy of the freedoms we claim to uphold and believe in if we're willing to give them up so cheaply.....how many Americans died defending those freedoms over our history? This makes me sick.....
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    The fascinating aspect of this is that these so-called doctors would probably not even think twice about aborting a living human baby boy/girl in the womb.....selective and relative morality.....
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    Something this " writer" is not recognizing is seat belts are connected to driving. And driving is a privilege! Gun ownership is a constitutionally protected RIGHT! They subtlety try to skirt this by saying they respect the tradition of hunting. That doesn't mean ANYTHING. The constitution did not protect gun ownership in the constitution to ADRESS hunting.
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    @NTBFW Progressive liberals have an uncanny ability to redefine anything under the sun.....{in the Bible it says that they call evil good and good evil}.....
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    I'm in total agreement. We have already allowed big government to centrally control our lives in so many ways. Federal income tax began as a temporary measure to subsidize WW I which was also done during the Civil War. The difference is that the Civil War tax was repealed. We now work half of the year to pay all of our tax obligations. The graduated tax rate insures that we realize little advantage from a pay increase. Thus, the government maintains control of our individual socioeconomic status. NAFTA gutted our manufacturing sector, diminishing incomes and precipitating mortgage foreclosures and personal bankruptcies. The Patriot Act is in violation of the 4th Amendment. No Child Left Behind has reduced instructional time and government oversight has made a shambles of curriculum. I could go on but we all get the point. We have already opened the door to Big Brother. The domino effect is just beginning.
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    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

    Benjamin Franklin
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    i"mpingement on freedoms ought to be a trade-off for the desire and ability to save lives.
    We're not out to impinge on personal liberties "
    Your own words say other wise.
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    "Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power."
    Benjamin Franklin

    Seems as though progressive liberals are willing to do anything to sell our liberty to purchase their power.....
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    While I agree with the writers op-ed right to feel as they do and understand why they feel as they do, the bottom line remains. The mother of that child bears the responsibility for what her son did because she knew he had mental problems and she allowed access to those guns to him. No amount of laws will change that. She paid with her life. We shouldn't have to pay for her mistake any more than those 26 other people should have had to. My condolences Newtown. I still have to fight back tears every time I hear Newtown. As a tough old grizzled cynic, my one soft spot is the children. But taking my guns is not going to change those who attack kids.
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    Glad you do have a soft spot. Sometimes that is hard to tell.

    I agree with what you posted here. It's why I can't support gun control. It's not about safety, it's about control.
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    @jessejaymes - The same as yours. I'm deeply concerned about the future of this country. And who is the future of this country? The children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren. I care deeply about my family and my community as well. So there, I have soft spots too. I don't compromise them, they don't deserve to sold out.
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    @Neo_NtheMatrix neo you didn't need to start ranting about "socialists" again which is exactly what you did based on your daily posts concerning the future of this country. You know why my family is moving to Costa Rica? Including my granddaughter and her mother? Because we don't see a way back for America. We're totally scared to death of both the gangs and the right wingers. That means we are afraid of you Neo. I don't mean that as a childish insult. i mean that as fact. I think you're every bit as much a danger as the "socialists". Because you won't compromise on ANYTHING. That is what will be the final nail in the coffin of America. Love it or leave it? hell we're afraid of it. So we're leaving.
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    @jessejaymes - I didn't even mention socialists, you did. Then you started ranting about fleeing the country. If leaving for Costa Rica is what is best for you and your family then I wish you success and happiness there. My family can't and won't move there so we have to make America the best we can. We have a vested interest in the success of America. That's not a rant, that's just reality. I just can't wrap my mind around the idea of compromising with failure. Success is the only option for me and mine.
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    There really is no 'view' here, no position taken by the physicians except calling gun violence a health issue and advocating discussion on the issue, which is currently happening.
    Physicians by and large fall into a liberal camp philosophically. They always have.
    This doesn't hold true for the legal professions.
    So I'm not surprised to see physicians uniting around a 'progressive' position, but here they are simply advocating dialogue.
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    Daily Kos, huh?

    Anyhow...

    Greg Dworkin: "We need to do much more than that, of course. There are mental health issues that need addressing, as well as a hard data driven look at our culture of violence, not least of which is found on network television (people are quick to point the finger at video games, but rarely television - perhaps because many of the pointed fingers are on TV.)"

    I'd like to see those issues addressed first before we start infringing on the 2nd Amendment. I believe the solution to our gun violence in this country starts with addressing the moral decay in society, mental health issues, crime in inner city communities, and the violence that is promoting through movies, TV, video games, and rap music (if you can call it music). These are the things Americans should go after, and they should leave my gun rights alone!
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    Interesting comment, because that's exactly what Americans did when Congress passed the Patriot Act following 9/11. So basically, your argument doesn't hold water.
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    @NTBFW we have a social compact in this democracy. Yes we have guaranteed liberties under our Constitution - but those liberties are there for the Common Good, not just the individual. If individual liberties were the sole point of our democracy, then once we gained our freedom from England, why institute a government? We've reached the point where we have to decide if we want to remain a democratic union or splinter off into separate entities. Do we destroy the social compact to ensure the rights of some? Is your right to own a gun - whatever weapon you choose to have be it a gun, a rocket grenade launcher, a missile, a nuke warhead - more valuable to you, then, than the right of a person who would like to be able to go to school, go to a movie theatre, go to a shopping mall, or even go to work and still come home alive - are their rights less than your rights:? Dr Dworkin isn't advocating taking away your guns - he's advocating a sensible approach to responsible gun ownership. There is a difference you know between blame and responsibility. We're not blaming all gun owners - we are asking you to understand that you share the responsibility of ensuring that all rights, not just yours, are upheld under our social compact as the United States of America. The fact that you refuse to even enter into a dialogue tells me that responsibility is not a valued component.
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    @Greytdog the reason I won't compromise is simple. There is no possible resolution to our differences. You want to undermine the constitution and invalidate the second amendment. It's all or nothing with you. You leave no room for compromise. Your excuse for the common good is straw man at its worst. Because the " reasonable" actions you want won't accomplish your stated goals. You refuse the simplest answer to the problem. Enforce current laws. Until you at least try that there is no rational argument for new laws. The only thing you will accomplish is denying us our rights with no gain on crime or violence.
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    These fine do good doctors need to take a stand against drunk driving accidents that result in death.It was tragic what happened that day do to a nut with a gun.I just wonder how many of these fine doctors have taken a stand from those injured or killed from booze ,drugs ,or domestic violence.Ahhh but speaking out on guns is the new cool.Its not about cool its about saving lives ,its a shame guns are the only focus.
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    These Doctors should stick to things they know, and take heed in the following:....

    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
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    they are doctors (wonderful and compassionate human beings, a plus to our species), read their oath, what do you expect, they should have a higher and more respected influence than they are given, regarding many subjects our government and society are presenting them with, let them speak with due respect!
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    Totally agree although I don't fully agree with their stance. I can only imagine the trauma in their own lives as one after another of those children were brought in. I feel so sorry for the debacle that was Newtown. How these people can just rear back and show such disrespect is telling about the condition of America seems to me.
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    Obviously I agree with the view of gun violence as a public health problem. I think it is on that basis we will reach some new agreement on how to preserve 2nd amendment rights and decrease the chances of someone's right to life being snuffed out in a mass murder.
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    I disagree somewhat. I see gun violence as a criminal issue. However, we need to include mental health background improvements in to our background check systems.

    Not all that commit gun violence have mental health background issues. Some are simply criminals and know exactly what they are doing.

    Given the current state of political affairs you are a little more optimistic than I am.

    Does that right to life include the ability of one to protect their life?
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    There are steps that can be taken, but what those steps are is the choking point. Sure, lets decrease gun violence and, more importantly, violence. But, unless you have the "Minority Report", any weapon you take away might be the one that could have been used to protect a life.
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    Pity the poor MD's who did the autopsies, Pity the poor MD who may have children of their own who were in different schools or class rooms. Pity the MD who have to treat a family minus a child, Pity the poor MD who have to deal with the trauma that has hit this community. Multiply that out by how many times a day an innocent is killed by gun violence, 2065 as of five days since Newtown and I think declaring this a public health issue is justified.
    It's time to put the paranoia aside and establish a system where real background checks including health issues are required. No one's threatening to take you're gun, there are just a number of "we the people" who want to be protected from criminals and psycho's.
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    @wonka45ACP a real background check to prevent their acquiring guns... The Senate has a bill out of committee to deal with bulk buys and interstate trafficking with real teeth in it. The states won't enforce the law so it's up to the feds. Bulk buys are not a problem in many states, no background checks performed, no waiting periods. That's dumb!

    It's amazing that trucks filled with black market cigarettes bought cheap in the Carolinas and resold in NYC are stopped almost daily and their cargo seized. But a buyer with 50 handguns in his trunk purchased in GA or FL has no worry about being stopped. He's not broken the law until there sold on the black market.\
    Not looking to take any legit gun owners rights or privileges I just want to enforce our laws and stop facilitating guns being sold to the wrong people
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    @wonka45ACP I don't believe we can do much more about the problem in the current political climate. This at least inhibits the facilitation of getting guns into the wrong hands I'm thinking in terms of what's doable.
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    @talkenhed
    Does it not bother you to hear? someone say, "do as we say not as we do" or hear someone that want's to restrict something from you? only to hear this from those that want to restrict it. SPRINGFIELD, VA - Gun Owners of America today awarded Sarah Brady's son, Scott, an honorary one-year GOA membership.

    "Now that Scott Brady is the proud owner of a high-powered 'sniper' rifle, he will most certainly need a fuller understanding of the Second Amendment than he ever received at home," said Erich Pratt, Director of Communications for Gun Owners of America.

    In her recent book, Sarah Brady admits to having engaged in a straw purchase when she bought a .30-06 on her son's behalf, allowing him to avoid the required criminal background check.
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