"The Life at Conception Act legislatively declares what most Americans believe and what science has long known - that human life begins at the moment of conception, and therefore is entitled to legal protection from that point forward," said Paul.
The Kentucky Senator last year explained in an anti-abortion video that fetal personhood bills allow for banning abortion without conflicting with Roe v. Wade, since Congress has the power to define where life begins under the 14th Amendment.
Well this is just about what I expected from Rand Paul. Just like his father he lets no opportunity to bury himself pass by. Riding high on some common sense notice, he uses that newfound audience to completely make an out and out fool of himself. Way to go Rand. I knew you would do it.
@methinks This sort of thing is why I don't jump bandwagon to bandwagon. A leopard doesn't change his spots, a monkey doesn't type a novel and a Paul will fall off the ledge about every third time he steps out.
Agreed. He must be living inside a self-righteous bubble to think the will of the people will support this, along with the supreme court overturning Roe V Wade. What special interest group has the $ to lobby to aid in its fruition? Its not election time, so why is he now pitching this wedge issue?
Unfortunatley, there goes his 2016 bid. Even mostly conservative women want that option for any number of reasons, not just the one I harp on most. We need to just take it off the table and let GOD deal with them later.
Yah, gotta agree with ya there. Why is it promising candidates throw away their chances on issues where the country is pretty evenly split? I will never understand that. He could have run on a fiscally sound and liberties platform and won over more than just extremes in the GOP. Gah.
@Fishbone345 I agree with what you guys are saying, except the part where you call rand a "promising candidate". He's in no way a promising candidate. His father had a shot, but Rand is simply to "crazy" to be considered. He also lacks the credibility his father could bank on.
I'll go along with that. Believe what you want to believe, but stop trying to mete out "God's judgment" based on your beliefs. If you have faith in your beliefs then you can feel satisfied that Godless heathens will suffer on Judgment Day, while those of us who don't believe the way that you do can get on with our lives without you getting in to our business.
I agree, I should have added that it should be socially unacceptable and let the states decide, as far as I know abortion was always legal in new york before roe, it should be allowed to devolve back to that level. No one got my return of the living dead referance on that zombie post. In the words of comic book guy BEST.... ZOMBIE MOVIE..... EVER. ever seen it? came out in 1985.
@Neo_NtheMatrix No, because he wants to interfere with a womans right to choose and dictate to others based on his own beliefs. Babies are tiny children that have alreadybeen born. They are alive. They can breath and function on their own as long as someone feeds them (and hopefully changes the diapers). Unborn fetuses are not babies.
@PoliticalSpice I'm going to agree with you, I'm pro-choice for the simple fact that you can't allow someone to dictate what you do with your body, I happen to also agree with professionally assisted suicide, because it's my pain and suffering not yours. it may be possible some peoples morals differ from mine.
@AlexMIA funny, I thought he made himself look a fool. The Posse Comitatus Act prevents the use of US military forces being used in the US for anything but law enforcement. Targeted killing hardly qualifies.
God forbid a politician stand up for something he believes in....and maybe he dont care about votes...maybe just maybe he just cares about unborn lives??? You all are always defending gays, Mr. Obama, illegals etc. etc. This guy just wants to defend these little lives that never have a chance...god bless him.
I don't defend Obama - he's a traitor. Haven't defended gays- not my interest. I'm one of the most vehemont here about running illegals out of this country. I'll defend a human life when it becomes a human life- right around six month's gestation.
@Knightkore Are you God? Do you know when a life is a life? No you don't. Neither do I. Neither does Rand Paul. It's an arbitrary figure and the Majority of people in this country do not agree that life begins with fertilization. I support the morning after pill over surgical abortion but I do not believe that without formation, heartbeat/pulse you have life. Neither does the majority of America.
That is so true. I never thought about it like that. And right now, what is obama doing? He's using drones to spy on the American people. He's already killed two Americans without trial or jury. You're right, if we won't defend the most defenseless among us, then all of us are targets.
Do you support war? Did you protest our wars in Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan or any of the other places in the world the U.S. goes and kills innocent people? Did you protest war as much as you protest abortion? Find out how many innocent Vietnamese children were killed and maimed during all those years. Research how many Iraqi children died because we invaded that nation.
Please don't pick and choose life. Yes, I agree. ALL life is precious. That includes the murderer in prison. You can't have it both ways.
America is THE most violent country in the industrialized world. Abortion has nothing to do with it. We have had no respect for life since the beginning of our nation because we see war as the answer to everything. We kill because we it's all we know.
We have a country that hates welfare mothers and abortion at the same time. How much sense does that make? We hate the thought of giving a hungry American child a free lunch at school, but we'll give 12 billion dollars to Egypt to help their economy. And no one utters a word of protest about that. But let a woman ask for food for her children and watch the fur fly. Let her seek an abortion for a child she can't afford and watch the fur fly.
I will repeat ALL life is precious. with that being said....I support war as a DEFENSE....I do not support war just to be an aggressor. If we do not value our own unborn we will not value the life of anyone else. Charity begins at home. Morals play a great part in this. Until we have moral leaders , leaders that respect God's laws there will be innocents of all ages and nationalites killed as part of the evil in this world.
Wow that's a real screw up for him. Once again instead of dealing with the cause of a problem we try and ban a solution. It's like trying to get rid of garbage by banning garbage dumps. It does not work.
Murder is a solution? Interesting. Yet the death penalty on murderers and rapists is not a good idea and somehow wrong? Fascinating. What kind of progressive liberal Bizarro World relative morality do you follow?
Many ask that politicians be more honest and then when a politician is brave enough to be honest, those that don't agree with him, say if you don't agree with us liberals, we don't want to hear what you have to say and condemn him for being honest.
Ya know what I'd like to see.......all the pro-lifers have to answer a question on their tax returns. "For" or "against" abortion! When the woman rights takers answer against, Immediately a $100,000 dollar tax is tacked onto their taxes to pay for the non-abortions. In other words, if you are so against a woman's right, than pay for it! Every year for the rest of your GD life!
@Neo_NtheMatrix Yeppers, abstinence has always worked.......even back in the 1920's, 30's, 40's....etc. Ya know, back when everybody was innocent (and abortions still happened......in back room parlors, by failed "doctors", in a dirty room......where many either were maimed or died.....0 You do realize estimated number of abortions per year in the 1950's (an innocent age and time) was anywhere from 200,000 to 500,000 a year (numbers no official because it WASN'T legal, so kinda hard to officially count)
@stepped_in_it - I'm sorry. We've debated a number of issues. This one, this issue here? I just can't casually say a life is worthless and just doesn't matter because that life came at an inconvenient time. I can't simply say that because someone does something, we should make it legal. Theft, rape, murder -- these crimes certainly happened long before this country even existed. We certainly don't legitimize these actions by giving them government approved legality.
I have two wonderful sons. I couldn't imagine my life without them. I'm so thankful my wife didn't decide to murder them just because she could. I just think if life was valued in this country, if family and hard work had value, we wouldn't live in such a screwed up place. I don't expect you to understand that. Really, I expect no one to understand what I'm saying. I just feel sad for the millions of babies slaughtered yearly simply because they are inconvenient.
Personhood amendments to state constitutions are, I believe, 0 for 4 with even Mississippi turning down a referendum on it. There's no groundswell support for this notion anywhere except in Sen Paul's mind. I'm sure a certain percentage of the already diminished GOP base will cheer, but that's quite a ways from actual lawmaking.
Pop, ingest, swallow, smoke, go to prison for profit, lose your gun rights, and feed a corrupt court and law enforcement system. Abort a late term fetus which is actually thinking, feeling pain, joy, and life, legal. Madness! Change gears Rand, and get this moving. Those babies can't speak for themselves.
Government is not God. When God wants abortions stopped, he will stop it in such a way to where no person or political party can take the credit. Both major parties need to stop trying to legislate their version of morality. It is all about freedom.
I will never understand the desire to make an issue that America is evenly split on, part of their campaign. It will always lose votes for you. Every single time. Could have run on a liberties platform, with fiscally conservative ideals and would have lured voters from the middle. Instead killed your chances on an issue that will never win votes.
@DerivePI Yes, if a six-year-old kills another 6-year-old, that is called murder. So I take it you would agree that a fetus which kills its twin in the womb is a murderer and must be tried for the crime. In my opinion, a fetus is a person when it can and had survived outside of the womb. As for abortions, I don't think they should be legal after the first trimester except for extraordinary circumstances like the mother's life being in danger. But people who want to claim a zygote is a full person with full human rights had better really think through the implications of what they are proposing.
@Zazziness You posted,"So I take it you would agree that a fetus"....(A Human baby)...." which kills its twin in the womb is a murderer" A baby does not kill the other baby but both may not be able to be saved, its not willful murder done by the other baby.