Liberal mag Salon is proving conservatives' suspicions true by running a piece titled "Let's hope the Boston Marathon bomber is a white American."
We should hope the bomber isn't identified as a Muslim, David Sirota writes, to protect civil liberties against "conservatives."
If the bomber ends up being a Muslim...it's easy to imagine conservatives citing Boston as a reason to block immigration reform, defense spending cuts, and the Afghan War withdrawal and to further expand surveillance and other encroachments on civil liberties.
Meanwhile conservatives seem to be hoping the culprit isn't a domestic right-winger, judging by Rush Limbaugh's recent warning that the liberal media will "denounce" conservatives if the bomber is associated with the right in any way.
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@PoliticalSpice it would be odd since almost every one of these mass shooters and bombers either they have no particular religious belief or radical atheists... or they have no particular political belief or are radical leftists... that's just the facts. you can try it to twitch those facts and I'm sure you will so will take Eric Rudolph of the table right now and see what you've got.
starting with Obama's own personal friends who by the way helped him launch his political career. and you can go on down the line till you get to Ted Kaczynski, probably the most famous whacked out left wing enviromentalist bomber... throw in a couple of Ivy League professors who were once members of The Weather Underground,, famous for their bombings... and you my friend would be much like some of the victims of this late is bombing, without a leg to stand on.
@bsking kazanski was not an environmentalist, he was anti- technology, he wrote some dozen pages in his manifesto as to how much he despised the left and had nothing move to say about them or te folks at Berkeley, where he was at the university. The only other spree killers that I can think of is some eacko in canada, who hated feminist, and the texas university killer whose politics I am unaware of. Where you get the idea these people are leftist, other then your own imagination, is beyond me, but most political violence I have seen in the u.s. has been from right wingers, be it the klan, tim mcveih, the ant i-abortion guy you mentioned, etc.mass shooters, as a group do not have political motives for the most part, they are just crazy. People who engage in political violence and hurt or kill others tend to be right wingers. The weather underground did dozens of bombings. Except for an explosion where three of their own died, no one ever died in a weather underground explosion. The blacl liberation army, an off shoot of some militant panthers that developed in response to several murders of panthers by police and FBI targeted police, they harmed no civilians. Right wings are violent people. They bombed the church with four children because to try to prevent covil rights, in particular voter registration, something right wingers tried to do legislatively on a national basis in the very last presidential election. It drives them crazy tjat a black man is president to a point they have created a bizzare cult of conspiricist. They hate mexicans to a point they want cars to be pulled over and question them about citizenship. And people are finally starting to wake up and do something about it, to a point where obama was re-eleceted despite thr fact no president with an unemPloyment rate this high had been re-elected since the FDR.
I first suspect that the act of setting off bombs at the Boston Marathon is by the same movement that the US has been fighting in the so-called War on Terror. That would make it most likely that the perpetrator or perpetrators are Muslim terrorists. That is not politics or racial profiling or proof, it is Occam's Razor. Beyond that, I will wait and see if those responsible are caught before assigning blame to anyone.
I thought about that for a while, but it seems to me the argument ignores our domestic terrorist heritage, Oklahoma City, the anniversary of which is near. I dunno - there are so many ways to slice the pie.
I can just about sympathize with CNN and Fox for jumping the gun today on the arrest thing - we're all hungry for resolution and, eventually, retribution.
@DARSB "Several people were injured after an explosion late Wednesday at a fertilizer plant near Waco, Texas." Now this story makes me think of the Oklahoma City Bombing, because unless this plant was processing cow flops, it was making the same sort of ammonium nitrate fertilizer used in that bomb. It will of course end up to be an accidental explosion.
This has got to be without a doubt the stupidest 3 choices for a poll I have ever seen. Politix has stooped to a new low. Race baiting? Dividing an already divided nation? This gets race, religion and political party hatred spewing in 3 easy choices. What's next decaf or regular?
I am a moderate conservative and calling these militia style groups "right wingers" is a fallacy. The liberals love to try to connect these people to conservatives or Republicans. They are not. They are anarchist! They are just as anti-government and active when there is a Republican president and a majority of republicans congress. They are no Republicans, I don't care if they call themselves Republicans or not, they are so off what Republicans and conservatives believe and do that the notion that they are Republicans is ludicrous!
These militia groups (not neccesarily saying they are responsible for the bombing) are right wingers. They are way farther to the right then your average republican, however. It is a leap, but not a far one, from the extremely small and powerless government Libertarians want and the no government that anarchists want. Extremists with any belief can be dangerous. Being pro-choice can be a moderate stance, but an asshole extremist in PA killed live children because of that stance. Being anti-choice can be a moderate stance, but assholes have murdered people with guns and bombs because of that stance. If it turns out to be an extremist right winger(s) responsible I will not associate that with you because they do not represent most right wingers.
@Cheenoguy They do not represent Republicans or conservatives. Being anti-government is anarchist. There is no way to even call them right wingers. Even when you add the word extremist to right-winger. Right winger implies they have a belief in the government. They don't. They are anti-government, which by definition makes them anarchist. Not right winger extremist.
@BelinKS Believe what you want, but anarchists are not very different in belief from libertarians like Rand Paul. The point I was primarily trying to make was this: If the bombers turn out to be extreme right wingers I will not blame 99% of right wingers because most right wingers are not the type to support this type of behavior.
A couple of articles ago I sarcasticly said "the bomber was a left-wing nut that was mad about the sequester", in reply to the Chris "the thrill" Mathews. But somehow when the left says things like this, you can just feel their vile racist hate. After all, I did say left-wing nut, which IMO could be any color American. Stupid Racists!
Politix is actively soliciting wild speculation! This will lead to threads wherein you'll have to intervene for code of conduct abuse. As moderators of a board, this is reckless behavior. It serves no civic function. It is not debate. This only fans the flames of discord. Shame on you! Posting the Salon article is fair game. The questions you've asked today, this article and another, are unfit for moderated discourse.
I don't care who they are and those who are speculating (regardless of what side of the political spectrum) to promote political interest are RETARDED (that's right I said it). I hope they catch the SOB regardless of skin color.
how about we find out who did and bash that loon? all else fails blame it on whitey,those crazy white folks are always doing dirt.sad part is like these headlines if it was said of any other group lawyers would be all over it.