AMan Calls Police to Teach Son a Lesson. Police Shoot Son Dead.

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    • Oct 2012
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    PayThatCEO wrote: #131
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    @MadAmerican Yes, we would call the police in the case of violence such as you described. It just seems, however, police these days do not know how to assess a situation before they begin shooting.
    @PayThatCEO And let's no forget the press hardly never reports when cops do good or go above and beyond. They just wait and pounce because stories like this sell. Look at how many police that are in the US and then maybe once a month you hear of crap like this. If anything the mental evaluation needs to be tougher, and also the chain of command must be held responsible if there is a pattern of unprofessional behavior.
    • Jun 2012
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    @PayThatCEO And let's no forget the press hardly never reports when cops do good or go above and beyond. They just wait and pounce because stories like this sell. Look at how many police that are in the US and then maybe once a month you hear of crap like this. If anything the mental evaluation n...
    @MadAmerican

    This very morning I'm driving to work, commuter traffic is what it is. Three lanes of traffic and a tractor trailer is broken down in the middle lane at a stoplight. Naturally people in that middle lane are attempting to jump into the other two lanes, nearly causing accidents.

    I'm sitting at the light that has turned red. A cop shows up. I'm thinking "good, he'll direct some traffic here before someone gets killed." No. He talks to the truck driver, gets back in his police car and drives away...leaving everyone to keep swerving around the truck.

    It's not the police officers I have a problem with. It's how they are being trained. They are not being trained to serve the public or be civil servants anymore to those who pay their salaries. The are LAW ENFORCEMENT. And they take that to an extreme.
    • Oct 2012
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    Politix does it again. Gives incomplete or wrong information to get a given reaction. If the video which I saw after my comment was available first, the vote could have been 100% justified shooting.
    • Sep 2013
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    wow, what a stupid situation.... across the boards.
    • Feb 2013
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    KentuckyJim wrote: #7
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    I don't think anyone could know unless they were there though. Whenever I get pulled over I turn on the blinkers, the cab light, roll down all the windows, turn off the truck and place the keys on the dash. I've rehearsed this many times during the real deal. And I got pulled over a lot when I w...
    @Kentucky Jim @PolitixMary -

    Everything you really need to know is in this dash-cam video:

    http://www.kcrg.com/news/crime/Ames-Police-Cl...

    The "kid" ran, rammed cops with his dads truck and trailer, ran amuck through the city and campus at high speeds running stop signs and putting other traffic at risk, tried to get away and eventually was surrounded and shot.

    Mary, this was terrible reporting, but excellent spin.

    The picture you used was a 14 year old, not the 6' rugged looking man from the homeless shelter shown in the news report at the link which was the reality.

    Disappointed in the spin.

    But I can admire the manipulation.
    • Sep 2012
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    Although it is clear the suspect was out of control I question one having to use a fire arm to stop a such incidents. Also foreign 6 shots seems too much one or two shots with an order to stand down could have been tried.
    • Jun 2012
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    Sounds like Law Enforcement enforcing at all cost. Or maybe a cop power tripping. Who knows, we weren't there.

    There might be a lesson here; Never call the cops to solve your own problems.
    • Jan 2013
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    @Pragmatist OK, the kid was playing demolition derby. Did he need to die for that? Jail? Yes. Restitution? Yes. Death? No. As long as he was not physically threatening another life, why did he have to die?
    @PayThatCEO a 3 thousand pound truck is a deadly weapon...
    • Jun 2012
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    MouseD wrote: #148
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    @PayThatCEO a 3 thousand pound truck is a deadly weapon...
    @MouseD

    If it is aimed at someone, yes it is. If it's banging into cars, no it's not.
    • Jul 2013
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    I can't believe Obama hasn't gone on national television to say if he had a son, he'd have been just like this kid.
    • Aug 2013
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    You can shoot someone for failing to pull over in extreme circumstances, you don't however shoot someone just because they didn't turn off the engine...
    This was not a shootout, this was not a high speed chase, this was someone not stopping the engine after he was pulled over...
    Wow just wow...
    • Mar 2013
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    FordPrefect wrote: #1
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    That's a bad deal
    Watching the video I see the deceased using his truck as a battering ram against the police vehicles. This puts officers in danger and they responded with deadly force. He also put the public in danger with the way he was running from the police.
    • Jul 2013
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    If you use your truck or car as weapon you are going to finalized, Case closed.
    • Sep 2012
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    How is not shutting off your engine a justifiable reason to kill someone? Who is hiring these trigger happy idiots?
    • Oct 2013
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    There are decent men in uniform who stand in the breach in our defense; however, Police are becoming increasingly militarized and shoot first waaaaay too often. Apparently, a dead suspect saves money over a wounded one. There is no upkeep, no medical, don't have to feed, clothe, or lodge a dead suspect. Also, no injury lawsuites. Only incurs paperwork and ammo resupply. Police are only justified to shoot if there is ability (weapon present), jeopardy (actual threat), and opportunity (close enough to injure). Otherwise, hang the administrator who drew up the "policies and procedures" along with the out of control officer(s). Need to hold policy makers accountable. Law enforcement is a dangerous job, deal with it and stop killing folks because it's convinient.
    • Sep 2012
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    Yobyag wrote: #154
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    How is not shutting off your engine a justifiable reason to kill someone? Who is hiring these trigger happy idiots?
    OK nevermind. I just saw the dash cam footage. It was very obvious that this was justified.
    • Sep 2012
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    BravoJuliet wrote: #91
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    @FordPrefect It was sad but it was justified...would be nice if Politx got it right first, without the appearances of a "bait story" if I were to judge by how it was presented. Seems the "truth" was out there and it was pretty straight forward without having to make cops look bad when it's n...
    @BravoJuliet Thank you! This tells a completely different story and makes the incident make sense. I noticed he had minor arrests for things including drug possession. I wonder if that was the issue or if he was just nuts? A 19 year old who lives in a homeless shelter has more issues than needing a pack of cigarettes. I wonder when the lawsuit for high monetary damages BTW will be filed? Did family realize, with just a tweak or two they just might have hit the"Lottery"?
    • Sep 2012
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    I have to repost this very informative post by Bravo Juliet! This is the TRUE facts of the case.

    @ BravoJuliet
    @FordPrefect It was sad but it was justified...would be nice if Politx got it right first, without the appearances of a "bait story" if I were to judge by how it was presented.

    Seems the "truth" was out there and it was pretty straight forward without having to make cops look bad when it's not warranted.

    http://www.kcrg.com/news/crime/Ames-Police-Cl ...
    • Jan 2013
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    The police seem to always be eager to shoot first and ask questions later. This is the norm nowa days.
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