AKentucky Senators Want to Legalize Hemp

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HooverNiebold

Legalized hemp will make growing quality marijuana much more difficult. The nuisance weed laws helped growers and when they were lifted cross contamination became a problem allowing hemp will only add to this issue for growers.
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    True to an extent, but high quality genetic material, as in seeds from quality cannabis, sunshine, warm environment and less water can increase thc content...
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    @PoliticalSpice
    Seeds aren't worth growing high quality marijuana, clones are the only way to go. And cloned plants are ruined for consumption by simply touching a hemp plant with pollen and transferring to the cloned plant. Even the wind will create this problem for cloned plants near ditch weed or hemp.
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    @Yank

    Yes, marijuana has not yet been genetically modified to not pollinate. Virtually no one has to detassle corn any more.
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    @HooverNiebold First, you are obviously speaking from a producers point of veiw, as a consumer, I feel differently. Although I like the reliability and standardization of effect from that cloning allows for, I disagree with you for five reasons. First, for tens of thousands of years, cannabis has grown on the planet, and both hemp quality and higher thc quality varieties were widely available. Granted, a high thc plant pollinated with a low thc yeilder will have potency reduced, but somehow marjuana has always been available. Second, much of the cloned product produced is not allowed to go to seed. In that type of production, virtually industrywide amoung growers of medical marihuana in california, the pollen has no effect whatever. Third, saying seeds aren't worth growing for high quality marijuana is just silly, long before cloning and similar techniques were developed I bought weed, it had seeds, it was plenty powerful and did the trick. Sure, it wasn't as powerful or as high in thc Content as what is produced by clones today, but we didn't complain. Indeed, there were times when i wished i could lay my hand on something a bit less potent, not often, but sometimes. Fourth, I like having seeds available to grow my own. Not letting it go to seed to increase potency deprives me of this, and in the long run could endanger the plants ability to reproduce and survive in nature. Fifth, It is also extortion to charge as much as 70$ for a dozen seeds for sonething that used to come free in every bag of weed. And finally, hemp has a role to play. Not everything is about potent pot. Ecologically using hemp to make paper is a better alternative then cutting trees, using powerful toxic chemincals to turn wood into pulp, and bleach to whiten paper. Hemp can keep farms from going under, producing paper cloth, oil, seedmash for animal feed. These are viable options that can help farmers, provide jobs in an industry that is environmentally sound, protect forest, reduce the use and pollution cause by toxic chemicals, etc.
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    @HooverNiebold I have no idea how to grow it. I just have an 8,000 acre farm. When it's legal we can talk.
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    @HooverNiebold detassleing corn is not done to prevent cross pollination, detasseling is done to ensure cross pollination. The reason why corn is much more seldom detasseled is because you can buy sterile corn seeds and thus do not have to detassel them to ensure cross pollination.

    GM corn still pollinates and cross pollination between GM and non-GM corn has been a hot topic for a decade.

    P.S. For corn (I know corn, but can't say if hemp is the same) a distance of 250 feet is recommended between two different types of corn to minimize wind based cross pollination and at 700 feet the chance of wind based cross pollination is effectively reduced to zero
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    @PoliticalSpice
    The potency is not the issue with pollinated clones, it's the seeds. Also there is no such thing as not allowing it to go to seed. The seeds come from the pollination and has nothing to do with when it's harvested. Sure you can harvest before seeds are present but then you also are harvesting before budding and any useable level of THC. I agree that hemp is a great product for many uses other than paper I was mearly stating the fact that allowing it to be grown would be detrimental to growers of marijuana and not beneficial as this article suggests.
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    @Yank
    My understanding of detasseling was to ensure only one of two or more varieties of corn were pollinated by the chosen strain and not by its own. As I understand GM corn does not allow this regardless. In other words not allowing cross pollination. This has yet to be introduced to marijuana or hemp to my knowledge.
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    @HooverNiebold that is exactly what cross pollination is. Also GM corn most certainly does pollinate. Like I said, the GM cross pollination and polluting of non-GM corn has been a hot issue.

    P.S. You are thinking of the sterile variants (not GM) of corn which have been around for a long time.
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    @HooverNiebold I lived in ca. Until about a year ago. Medical marijuana does not have seeds, they grow it from clones and do not allow pollination. That is a fact. So yes, they are mot allowing it to go to seed. This is done in a variety of ways: keeping all female plants, growing indoors so stray pollin does not effect plants, manipulating lighting times, etc. And notwithstanding what you say these plants produce buds, some wueit large, but no seeds in the buds. Sensimillia.

    Now that growing hemp is not benefical to potency of marijuana within pollination distance is true, but I was using the word benificial to mean it benefits efforts to make enforcement of the law difficult. Since it is the same plant and bisually appears the same a feild by feild inspecition with thc testing becomes the only way to be certian it is hemp instead of marijuana. If that is the case, and states donot want to do
    It, and various states allow growing of hemp eventually enforcement is impossible. When that happens, the law will be forced to change....
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    @PoliticalSpice
    Again they don't seed unless they are pollinated. They're not allowing pollination to prevent seeds, lighting only determines when budding will begin not if seeds are present. Buds as large as a grown mans forearm without seeds are not uncommon with proper care and isolation.
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    @HooverNiebold I never said a plant could go to seed witjput pollination, I said I prefer seeds because I feel this is a way to allow them to charge extortionist rates to aquire a few seeds. It is a way to force us to buy weed that, given seeds we could grow on our own...