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    We were in trouble the minute we allowed any federal agency the right to 'enact' new laws in the form of federal regulations. Only Congress should be allowed to pass laws, and they should consider revising many of the stupid laws we have on the books now; SCOTUS should consider striking down most if not all the laws passed in the form of regulations by these federal agencies. I urge a lot of the folks on Politix.Topix.com to read "Gun Control in the Third Reich" to see how 'agencies' under Hitler did the same thing chaining the German people under a slew of these decrees and regulations; how the President's attempts to have a SINGLE mental health care worker deprive an American citizen of the right to buy, sell, own, transport, possess firearms, etc. The only difference is the in Nazi Germany the label was 'politically-reliable' rather than 'mentally-ill' and to grant anyone a permit to buy a firearm was solely at the local authority's discretion. Until it got to the point only members of the Nazi Party could own them. You saw in 1930s Germany also hysterical talk of Public Safety and the demand to confiscate registered guns based on shooting incidents which took place not even in Germany, but in France and Switzerland, against Nazi Party members- which are comparable to our domestic Reagan, Brady, Gifford shootings. We also saw that citizens homes were made targets of destructive 'searches' on simple 'suspicion' of someone owning a firearm or firearms. Even the widow of the former Weimar Republic's President was invaded and searched! The parallels are chilling. Congress needs to act, TOGETHER, to take back the powers which have been stripped from it, and put a stop to these authoritarian decrees euphemistically-called 'Executive Orders'!
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    @PhreedomPhan Going on about nazis isn't the voice of reason.

    It's the voice of hyperbole.
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    It does sound like NAFTA, another case where Ds and Rs wrung their hands over the "inevitable" and then passed the legislation whole with almost no debate. Now they all profess support for unblocking but they just can't seem to do it because they keep finding obscure reasons why it's "impossible".
    Any time both parties of Congress line up on the same side of anything the American working class is about to take it deep and dry.
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    Clearly Crony Capitalism.

    Follow the money trail and take a look at the big Cell Phone Company donors.

    They covered both sides of the aisle.
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    Control, Control,Control. What will the working class persons life be like in another 100 years. Government of the corporations, by the corporations and FOR the corporations.
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    I thought that after your contract period ended, where you bought your phone at a reduced price in exchange for signing a two year contract, that it was legal to unlock your phone. You have already paid the discounted price and paid too much for your coverage for two years. They made their money back in spades with those contracts! After that it should be your phone to do with as you please. Like taking it with you to a much less expensive carrier! How can they legally control property that you have bought and paid for. Now I see adds that will pay your early termination fees, but you have to buy a new phone.
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    Any rational person would come to the same conclusion. Guess what is writing the law, and negotiating a secret treaty? Ever hear the phrase bad money, driving out good?
    Still considering your advice.
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    A terrible law indeed and this goes to show how, if we unite together and petition the government, maybe, just maybe, we can make change...the power is with the people if we can come together and use it.
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    Imagine if they did this kind of stupid tactic with your car... making it illegal to install anything that didn't come from the car's manufacturer until after you have paid it off in full. No seat covers from the mall, no novelty shift knob or aftermarket headlights...

    Imagine your clothiers making it illegal for you to sew a new button on your shirt... or making you pay criminal fines for wearing Levi jeans with a Wrangler jacket...

    This is really stupid... a sign that some people know the letter of the law and are clueless about the spirit of it.
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    Sorry you went through so much trouble to unlock your old apple.. never go to the carriers to unlock your ph...the patch is out there so you don't have 2.. I've unlock most of my phs .. its really easy.
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    @freaky6smurf
    That's what I ended up doing...My big beef was that I paid full price for the phone...so I was pretty confused on how I was locked into anything with AT&T based solely on that phone.
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    @Food4thoughts Once I got off my contract with them, they were very helpful in helping me unlock mine. I guess different customer service reps. AT&T gets a lot of shit, and I am sure it is deserved in many cases, but I have been doing business with them since 2002, and never had a major problem.
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    @wild_turkey6
    Other than that it's been fine...I knew they could easily do it...they just wouldn't.

    They had me mad enough I was about to head over to verizon...but then I remembered I was grandfathered in on my unlimited data plan.

    They got me by the balls :-/
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    @Food4thoughts unlimited with them still means lower download and upload speeds after a certain level is reached. I have unlimited data, but after 2GB, it goes down to dial up speed.
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    Someone owns the music but you own your phone and should be able to use your phone with any phone service. Kinda like you can use any brand of fuel in your vehicle. What if you were only allowed to use one brand of fuel in your car? But it would still be illegal to speed.
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    i have paid for music ONCE in the last 13 years. it was a concert i decided to buy video games live album.... cuz i support that shit :D
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    @WMCOL Don't be ridiculous.

    My TV only works for Time Warner Cable. It is ludicrous to expect to be able to watch programming from Comcast on it.

    You are a crazy person!!
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    The author of this post is severely ignorant on the law about unlocking a phone. The only time it is illegal to unlock a phone is before the contract is up that YOU AGREE TO when buying a SUBSIDIZED phone. After the two years it is perfectly find to unlock, and you can pay full price and not sign the contract that says you can't unlock it.
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    Aside from those bigger issues facing the country, this is one of those 30 second no brainer pieces of legislation that should have been passed ages ago, but trade negotiations aside, probably won't pass without a few back room deals.
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    Belin, whether you are under contract or out of contract is legally irrelevant. It's illegal either way. No proposal would change anything involving contract law, so when carriers subsidize the phones, they make it back through the contract - but they shouldn't be able to use the DOJ to further subsidize their market model by making common technology illegal.
  • #16
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    Excellent analysis.

    Anything that allows and promotes more competition is good for consumers and good for the country.

    Restrictions on phone unlocking violate the spirit, if not the letter, of anti-trust laws.
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    I admit I got bored halfway through. I don't jailbreak my phones because I never want to take the chance of bricking them, but that's just me.

    However, my understanding of jailbreaking goes way beyond carrier issues. It fundamentally changes the software on the phone allowing you to do many positive things, BUT one very large negative one. Download any app for free. Isn't THAT really what Apple wants to stop more than anything?

    The other issue is carrier specific. Just like an exclusive video game that makes you buy a certain console just to have it, Microsoft pays millions of dollars to keep it exclusive. AT&T did the same thing. Being able to suddenly take it somewhere else would make those millions worthless.
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    @Firestorm
    After you have satisfied your Contract obligation with AT&T or whoever, for 2-years or whatever, why shouldn't you be able to take your phone, which is your personal property and use it for service with any other carrier?
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    @WMCOL @JoshPuchall noted that after your contract is over, you already CAN do this, legally. True or false?

    And I certainly have no problem with doing it, and realistically the "exclusive" aspect doesn't affect the secondary market that much, so those millions wouldn't totally go to waste. However, I still wonder if this is a bit of false flagging, because again, one of the primary functions of jailbreaking is also to jailbreak the App Store.
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    @Firestorm
    What this article seems to be indicating is that if your carrier does not approve the unlocking of your phone it is technically illegal to unlock your phone to use it with another carrier, even after contract is ended with your carrier. You can sell it or trade it but can't legally unlock it to use it with another carrier. Of course could be misunderstanding the article.
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    Overthrow the entrenched Beltway oligarchy! This is typical and almost as bad as personal welfare programs used to buy our votes, too.
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    This phone lock was pathetic to start with, this TPP will sink any hope for a living wage job in this country. We have little left now. Toss in the illegals and we are pretty much history as a leading country in this world. You can and should write, call, or fax you reps in Congress, other than that, well, there is only one other option.
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