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  • #11
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    The wealthy already buy way more than one vote...they buy blocks of voters...and...now they just buy candidates outright...thanks to citizens united
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    Yep it never was like that before, especially not in the areas of railroad and steel...wait no, it was like that then also, have you ever taken history?
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    Really, THIS TIME are you prepared to offer proof of this totally outrageous statement? Again, just getting on here and repeating the DNC talking points is not enough.
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    @Tralee
    I'm not a democrat and don't usually vote for the democrats so I really don't know anything about their talking points...I do however read and in the last presidential elections both Rick Santorum, and Newt Gingrich were only able to run because each had their own respective billionaire sponsor....as for all candidates they completely relay on the super rich for campaign contributions and advertisement dollars...candidates gain votes by advertisements that why they spend multi-millionaire of dollars on it....
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    @WoodyKC
    so your logic is since it's always been corrupted...it should always sty corrupt?...I'm for tradition...but that sounds crazy...also the citizens united ruling have made things much worse... unlimited anonymous campaign contributions were never legal before.
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    Sorry, I don't like people who don't pay taxes voting but the 15th amendment is clear on voting procedure and I'd like to keep doing it the constitutional way.
  • #44
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    The right way to do it is to change the Constitution. The only way to do this is to change the Constitution. Do you have a problem if the Constitution changes?
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    @fraps no it's a document designed to be modified so it can be. Just I don't think any congress such out ours could cooperate to change it.
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    @fraps lmao, all for changing the constitution, as long as you think the change will benefit your party. But if it's something you don't like, you always take the "Constitution is set in stone" mentality.
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    @fraps A better solution might be to create a climate for economic growth which would bring about better jobs offerings, as well as come down severely on those who commit fraud against public assistance programs. Limiting the length of time benefits can be drawn, and strictly enforcing that limit as well as not giving additional benefits for children born to those already on assistance would be helpful, too. Don't give people incentive to crap out more kids they won't take responsibility for!
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    @Bleeding_Blue What party do you think I belong to. I have voted for more Democrats than Republicans in the 51 years I have been voting. The next two elections though will be the first one where I will vote party only. I live in CT, so it does not matter in any way to anyone but me. I register in the minority party in the various states I have lived in. MA, NY, NJ, FL, NV, and CT.

    I do believe the constitution is set in stone. But one of the things in that stone set Constitution is the way to make changes. Unfortunately, many of the changes have been bad ones. Only one of the bad ones has been repealed. Prohibition.
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    I agree that only people who pay taxes should be able to vote. If you don't contribute to society, you shouldn't get to vote for whoever is giving you a handout.
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    While I understand the sentiment behind your statement, insinuating that people like stay-at-home mothers, who have paid taxes in the past and do not rec'd any gov't assistance, or retired seniors shouldn't be given a vote is ridiculous.
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    @AtsilaKamama @FatTony14 - What about sales taxes? Everyone pays those, regardless of where their money comes from. There's also property tax for those who own homes, vehicles, livestock, etc.
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    @AtsilaKamama Obviously there are some exceptions. College students, stay at home parents, retired seniors and people with disabilities. But if you can work and choose not to, that's a different situation.
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  • #8
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    In this country you're only as equal as the money you have or whatever victim mentality you can leverage, and since the people who make the laws love money too, that isn't likely to change.
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    @Real4WheelDrv Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others and their bank account proves it?
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    the money problem can be fixed by getting money out of elections movetoamend.org and by stopping to revolving door of lobbying where you can not go in and out of the industry your are supposed to be regulating.
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  • #72
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    Reading the comments, I see the very people who claim they uphold our Constitution want to end equality under the law. It's a pity, though it's not too surprising.
  • #80
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    Everyone claims to want to uphold the constitution. Libertarians are the only ones I've seen who actually try to uphold the whole thing.
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    I think it's sad it's gotten to the point that people feel that they have to resort to such lengths in order to cut off support to those defrauding or abusing our public assistance programs, and the politicians that use them as a bargaining tool to "buy" votes. The system is already unsustainable as it is. Something has to be done to get ALL spending under control. This is just one small portion of the problem.
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    Well, that would be a great way to install a government that serves the wealthy and widens the income gap even further. What these selfish brats don't realize is that without a middle class, there are fewer people to buy the products and services companies produce... which leads to fewer companies, fewer jobs, fewer people able to make a living, fewer upper-middle income people, fewer rich people and many, many poor people = Third World Country.
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    The income gap has increased more under Obama than anyone else. I did not think he was a Republican. I guess I learn something new everyday.
  • #101
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    We already have a government that is dedicated to serving the wealthy, widening the income gap, and eliminating the middle class.
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    Picture this. A huge portion of America's wealth is now off shored in some way. It generates no revenue for the country and it is not circulating and being spent in the economy. How did it get there? Most was manipulated out of the country during the Iraq War. Your tax dollars went to fund the DOD, which in turn hired thousands of military contractors, which in turn took your tax dollars and squirreled them away in shell companies.

    Another way America lost money was through the thousands of businesses that sent manufacturing and other jobs to foreign countries. Those salaries, which once paid Americans workers who bought things in America, are now being spent in India and Pakistan and China. More money gone from the United States.

    Then there's aid to foreign countries. Let's use Israel as an example. Last year, Israel received 3.1 billion dollars in military aid from the U.S. This is 3.1 billion of your tax dollars. Israel then turned around and bought weapons, missiles, and other war goods from big DOD contractors. So, this 3.1 billion is simply manipulated back and forth, but it never comes in contact with the American people - UNLESS, of course, you are heavily invested in Grumman or Lockheed or Halliburton.

    What will happen when America becomes Third World? Many of the most wealthiest have already left America or will leave. They will be able to. They sucked the life's blood from our country and when there's nothing left they'll move on. Mission accomplished.
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    @fraps

    It takes years to get to a point such as we are right now. The road to the hell we're in down was paved a long time ago.
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    @PayThatCEO It probably started under Clinton when the real estate regulations were modified so that anyone could buy a home without regard of his ability to pay for it. F&F bought up all the bad mortgages, kept lowering lending standards and created the biggest bubble ever. We are now paying for this. The Dodd-Frank law only makes things worse.
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    You're an adult citizen living under the laws of the land. You and hundreds of others work diligently in a company for a small paycheck. Your company's business model requires that it employ people like you. Your work and your coworkers' work help make the company and its CEO a success. The people of your income level contribute to the consumer demand for goods and services that helps make CEOs like yours a success.

    The CEO who depended on your work casts a 100% vote on the laws and elected officials affecting your life. You cast a .001 vote.

    The newly elected Congress then calls you lazy and legislates accordingly. And the CEO lays you off.
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  • #27
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    There's your one (1%) percent in action, boys and girls. You'll look long and far to find a more-naked display of hubris.

    See that smile? It gets wiped clean by the Quad "R".
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    I don't think he was serious but I also think to vote you should have a vested interest in the survival of the country. Have property, business, responsibility, etc. should be a mandatory requirement. There are just to many uniformed, couldn't care, or simple minded at the polls and what we get are politicians of the same .
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    Back in 1959, Robert Heinlein proposed in the book Starship Troopers that ONLY veterans would be allowed to vote. His logic was that if you really cared for the country, you would be willing to fight for it. If you weren't willing to fight for it, you didn't have enough of a stake to able to vote.

    This was left out of the movie, but was a major concept in the book.
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    @BakersfieldBob
    Gee Bob.......I didn't think you were a Heinlein fan..........did you by chance read Orwell? Cambell? Asimov? Lovecraft?
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  • #181
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    Actually, I think only blue collar workers and retired blue collars should have the right to vote.
    If you don't sweat, toil, ache; sit down and shut up!
  • #151
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    Yes, it is the poor, oppressed 1% who are suffering exactly what Germanic Jews went through 1933-1945. And elephants are going to fly out of this peckerwood's ass. Poor, poor, rich people! Maybe we should force the rich to wear a "$$" armband and gas them by the millions. Sound like that is what this guy wants.
    It would be better to suggest ONLY poor people get a vote. That would remove the rich's complete and utter control over our laws and courts..........and provide the return of wealth equity.
  • #223
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    I agree that those with actual skin in the game should have more to say about the direction of the country.... and I have always said that people who contribute nothing should have no say.
  • #160
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    The same dimwits that believe they represent "big business" are being used by people like this guy, peons to fight a battle in hopes to get the trickled down scraps from the 1%, who in reality see them as unequal, not even worthy of the same amount of votes. Wake up idiots!
  • #322
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    I do wish people WOULD wake up, but that would mean becoming angry at the correct injustice and right now we have too many people fighting too many different demons. We can't get anyone to come together.
  • #46
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    Those votes are useless. All he really has to do is find a politician who is willing to sell their votes.
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