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  • #15
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    the snow really doesn't do much damage,its the chunks of ice and frozen snow after the car or weather warms and the cools off and refreezes,they can take out a windshield or pedestrian
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    This being Connecticut, I wonder if drivers convicted of the offense of "Possession of an Ice Missile" be put on the NICS "Do Not Sell List" so they can't purchase other types of weapons? lol
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    Here in MN I see it happen all the time. It isn't too bad with cars, but with trucks you can have large chunks fly off. The other problem is when cars hit the highway and they create a mini blizzard in front of you when the hit 45-50mph and the snow all flys off at once.
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    @GedankPol Actually, you can get ticketed for the same reason here in PA. Several years ago, a woman was killed on a local highway when a sheet of ice flew off the van her and husband were following and went right through the windshield.
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    @methinks @hillofbeans You know, I've not lived in a state where considerable snow is a problem for decades, so this kind of news was a shock to me. Not only people not clearing their own cars of all the snow on it, but the fact that they allowed ice to form on their cars in big chunks which would then become missiles. I'd heard of chunks of 'blue ice' coming from planes out of the sky, and in Florida I've even witnessed pieces of metal, rock, wood being hurled as missiles through folks' windshields, but I had absolutely no idea about this ice missile problem until this news story and the comments you and HillofBeans made! Wow.
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    I agree and just to get it out of the way... I'll ask the question " do you clean off the top of your truck?"

    ....( and my answer would be my truck doesn't sit still long enough to accumulate snow) ;-)
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    I agree, but to me this particular situation sounds like an opportunity to hand out a bunch of tickets and bring in some revenue to me.
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    yes I agree if people are stupid enough or too lazy to clean off the tops of their cars they deserve to get tickets... absolutely..
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    reckless operation. they're endangering other motorists because they're to damned lazy. i say ticket the hell out them.
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    @bsking So you don't think there could be power hungry jerks out there (like the ones we see in the news everyday beating or shooting unarmed citizens) who would see this as an opportunity to harass motorists and meet his monthly quotas?

    I'm not talking about those dummies that scrape a circle in front of the drivers seat and on the rear window here. I mean someone who may have just gotten off afternoon shift with perhaps an inch of fluffy new snow on his roof, etc.
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    @AtsilaKamama That was my thought when I saw this. If it is left to the individual discretion of the officer, that is a scary proposal. Also, is this in town or on the highway. That is very important because, on the highway, I could see where this would be an issue because the speeds could cause some "flying missles". In town however, if there is that much snow, people should be driving reasonably and keeping a safe distance. If you are keeping back and only driving 25 miles an hour, you won't have to worry about this.
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    Knew a guy who never cleared snow off the back bumper lip under his tail lights; he went to brake one snowy morning, and the car behind him couldn't see his lights come on; smacked right into him. The cop handed Mr. Snowy Bumper a ticket as the ambulance dudes were applying his whiplash neck brace.
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    I'm one of those Californians who had to read this article to find out what the heck an ice missile was.

    It's about 75 degrees here, nice and sunny as usual. Y'all come out and visit! heh heh ...
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    When the sun comes out and starts melting snow on a metal roof, an huge sheet of ice can slide down the roof and off onto people or objects below. Ice can do tremendous damage, it's heavy and it's jagged. Metal roofs around here will have an "ice dam", usually a sturdy piece of plastic bolted to the roof, to prevent the slab of ice from sliding off the roof. Trying to drive behind someone who hasn't cleaned the snow off the top of their car is like driving in a blinding blizzard. You cannot see anything. I haven't been hit by a sheet of ice flying off the back of someone's car but I've seen it hit the pavement and explode all over the road. It's finally warmer here. The snow is melting, but the ground is already saturated and the water has nowhere to go. It's a mess.
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    I learned what they were a couple weeks ago when it snowed here in Louisiana. I say "snowed" but it was more like "ice-ing" and the little bit of precipitation that wasn't frozen from the night before gave everybody's vehicles ice sickles all over. Once it started to melt ice sickles fell from peoples cars, nothing dangerous I thought it was funny to see. Back to 75 here in Louisiana with 100% humidity.
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    @Realthinker yeah, I hate the mini-blizzard. It is the "I am too lazy to clean off my car and will let nature take care of it" effect.
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    "It's about 75 degrees here, nice and sunny as usual..."
    __________

    OH yeah. well yesterday we (milwaukee) got about 6 in of snow and it's 34 right now.

    Beat that!!!!
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    Common courtesy says you clean off your car before you drive around. It is a pain in the butt to get blasted by snow coming off of cars whose drivers only cleaned off the bare minimum for them to see out. I got no problem with the drivers being ticketed.
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    Agreed. If people are too lazy and stupid not to take an extra five or ten minutes to clean their vehicle off completely, then they deserve to be fined for it. And if the same idiots cause an accident or worse for it, they deserved to be fully held liable for said laziness and stupidity. A snow brush costs a mere $5 and is easy to use.
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    As someone who has had multiple vehicle repairs due to idiots not cleaning their cars off in Ohio I totally support this! Getting hit with a 4 ft section of ice on the interstate at 70 mph is like a cinder block hitting your car!
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    Thank YOU!! I was told, many years ago that the ash from coal being mined in the 60s and beyond was not suitable for use. I learned something today. Thanks!!
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    Don't understand how anyone could be saying no to this unless maybe if the person was handicapped but at that point should they go out in the snow? This is truly a hazard especially at highway speeds.
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    It'll be cool too, when the sea level rises three feet like they say. I'll be able to take my aluminum skiffs down to Nola and ride up and down Bourbon St. Hell, they won't even have to rename Canal Street.
    It will be romantic.
    Like a coon-ass Venice!
  • #8
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    As a former truck driver you can't help what piles up on your trailer when driving hell if you stop to knock it off you would never make your delivery. And this story sounds more like the police are finding ways to make money and is there a standard as to how much snow can be there.
  • #50
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    If our safety guy is correct, if it comes off of your truck and causes damage, it's your fault. Also I've heard of tickets given out in IL but not in MO.
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    Ya the bad thing about Il and In is that they now have confiscated cars such as trucks corvettes and volkswagons as unmarked units.
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    I have a better idea. Why don't the officers just offer to help them brush the snow off instead? Maybe carry an extra scraper/sweeper or two in the trunk to assist the citizens?*facepalm*

    This brought to you by the state that is courting the winds of Civil War II...
  • #85
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    Sure, after they cite them. Point overall is these morons should cleared off their "ice missiles" (first time I heard that term) in their driveway, before going on the road.
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    @MarkJM I've never heard that term. I don't think I've ever actually seen an "ice missle", either.

    I still say there is too much room for abuse here. If they want to ticket people, the law needs to be VERY specific, rather than open to individual interpretation.
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    @AtsilaKamama A lot of law enforcement agencies use the term "missile" to define an unsecured projectile coming from a vehicle. For example. An idiot driver w/road rage tossing a milkshake from a certain fast food establishment at another vehicle (they usually call them "McMissiles"). As for being specific, I think there is some degree of black and white here. If the knucklehead clears everything off the vehicle except for what's on the roof then goes on the road, that could very well be classified as having an "ice missile." It's a much more dangerous situation then many think.
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    It's a real hazard actually. I have seen it happen many times. People freak out when the snow and ice fly in their face from other vehicles.
  • #73
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    I understand but then again having been raised in New England I also know that people get used to it. Besides if there is a large amount of snow on the roof it doesn't take long for it to go away after you start driving.
    The more dangerous thing is the peekaboo drivers that only clear a tiny area of their windshield and none of their side or rear windows prioe to driving.
    I don't recommend driving with a pile of snow of the roof an do not do it myself but I still think it is primarily a way for a bankrupt state to get their hands on some more of the publics money.
  • #27
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    We 12 inches of snow last week, I don't recall any problems with ice missiles. And I was on the road 12-16 hours per day during the storm!
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    It's more after the snow melts a little and refreezes into ice. I've seen some monster sheets come off of trucks. A buddy had his windshield caved in by one.
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    @Thunderchicken
    Yeah, I believe it. About the third day, I removed the ice sheet gem atop my mini-van taxi. Though, it took some effort. At that point, it is unlikely it would have just flown off.
    Interestingly, when I drove down in Long Beach, CA, my cab had one of those damned billboards on top. I hit a low garage opening and cracked it! The wind got into it on the I-405 and it came loose and went flying end over end! Fortunately it was around 03:00 and there were only a couple other vehicles on the freeway! I went back and looked for it, but I never found that damned thing! LOL.:-0
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    I'm a Californian and no... I'm not confused by this. This is a good thing considering it can cause major accidents. I listened to an episode of The Mike O'Meara Show and they talked about this exact thing. If I remember correctly, Mike would clean off one of his co-host's car of snow because the co-host enjoys driving with the snow chunk on top of the car since he likes watching it fly off behind him. Mike tells of the story of how deadly that snow chunk can be.
  • #9
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    While Ga.wasn't giving out tickets after the last snow,all the locals t.v stations were warning about the danger of driving with snow and ice on your car,this after snow came off top of a car,covering the windshield,and the car wrecked.
  • #34
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    I dodged many an ice missile last week on 20 and on 77 this past weekend in South Carolina and North Carolina.
  • #26
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    Yes, It's important to clean your roof. In fact this actually affects OTHERS, a lot more important that big government junk like forcing people that are the sole occupant of their car to buckle up.
  • #32
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    @Denizen_Kate Well - perhaps maybe we could have it so you can sign a form exempting the insurance companies from paying you any money if you chose to go beltless. Personally I would wear one but we have too many laws.
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