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  • #64
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    Don't be ridiculous. When they say cut the budget they mean cut jobs and entire programs. That's where the meaning savings are to be made in the budget. Close firehouses, police stations, cut food stamps, slash the military etc.
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    @stepped_in_it I am not ridiculous in saying that those things are what take a hit when budgets are cut. Firehouses ARE closed, the food stamp budget has been cut, the military has seen reductions etc. You can't be serious to think those who are looking to balance the budget mean to get all the savings out of fraud, waste and politicians paychecks. The only meaningful way is to put more people on the unemployment line.
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    This is fishy. The only news about this story comes from Florida Public Employees Partnership?

    A google search for any news articles about this only turns up Mary Politix story.

    Could it be that the public sector union is attacking a republican governor with manufactured outrage. I don't think they're sending single firefighters to fight the kinds of blazes that we see out in California.

    It may very well be that at least two should be on site at all times for safety purposes but the one thing I'm all but certain of is that we aren't getting the full story.
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    not fish at all, and its the way wildfires have been fought in Fl for dozens of years, 1 forest ranger, 1 tractor/plow (plus the fire departments)
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    @rangerjake72 -- That does get rid of the fishy smell but that would mean that what I smell is a yet more BS public sector unions.
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    @Bobolinsky It's Florida, they have significantly more humidity than Cali! I'm thinking the fire danger is a bit different in Florida than out west. Green doesn't burn like brown does.
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    @rangerjake72 How large may people consist a team in your state? One or even two just doesn't sound right. I only fought one forest fire when I was a teenager and there dozens of people in each team.
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    What's wrong with Florida? They can't decide elections, the citizens get so high they eat the faces off of other people, and they send one man teams to handle a wild fire.... Florida needs to get it's sh*t together.
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    I work for the US Forest Service in Georgia and can say that both I and the local Georgia Forestry Commission have gone out singly and cleared a firebreak around the wildfire and let it burn itself out. Fires in the south are much different than what you see on the news out in California
    This is a politically motivated article.
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    Yet you can go to any governmental building and see a huge abundance of unused vehicles and people standing in hallways drinking coffee and talking about their weekend, and others sitting behind desk playing solitaire. It's in every state.
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    You can go into any office building and find that. People do get breaks. Are you suggesting we send out any government employee to wildfires?
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    @cpeter133 No-just stating that this is where the cuts should be made. Too many vehicles, and too many people who do not work three hours a day.
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    @MadAmerican And you know this by just walking through the building?

    A lot of government workers are doing MORE than their share, since most cities and states won't hire anyone when they lose an employee. What people often think of as inefficiency is just trying to do two or more people's work load.

    Should workers use their private vehicles for their employer's business?
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    So when a firefighter dies because they were sent out alone to fight a forest fire...isn't that going to cost the tax payer more money...not to mention possible lawsuits...I never understand republican's logic...it's like they can't see the forest for the trees
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    @Firestorm well, what exactly is on fire? Grass? Brush? Trees? Lot of need for 500 firemen for that blade of grass.
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    @62truck So why would you say that then? From what I see of the Colorado fires over recent years, they are incredibly dangerous. But, seriously, I'm interested in your perspective on the matter.
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    As anotherv poster said there is only one thing for certain that we can take away from this story and that is that we are not getting the whole story.
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    Wow, that's messed up :(
    People are being put into crazy dangerous situations thanks to pay cuts, and guess what it's only going to get worse.
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    Fighting fires and putting your life on the line is nowhere in comparison to child protective services. Child abuse cases are bad as well, however when our first responders are sent alone especially firefighters that's not right don't mess with the people that risk everything to protect us we should be behind them no matter what not leaving them. If they feel so strongly about that comment why don't they stand in those shoes of those men and women.
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    You bought a bill of goods. The story is a union negotiating ploy. The last time there were reported fire fighter deaths I could find in FL was in 2011 at 1 fire.
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  • #43
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    this is the way we have fought wildland fires in Florida for dozens of years, 1 Forest Ranger and a tractor/plow is sent to every reported outside fire, brush fire, forest fire, etc. if they arrive and see that it is bigger than they can work on, then they have to call for more help, this is hard, esp at night when there is only 1 Ranger on per county, ditches, canals and stumps are not visible, loading and unloading the tractor is harder, .. It is nothing new, but the Union has decided to make it an issue now, as part of contract negotiations
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    I was going to say what kind of Union would allow one-man responses, from purely a safety standpoint. Regardless of whether one guy can put out or manage the fire, I'd rather have another pair of eyes and ears and hands available for the unexpected, like well-meaning civilians who inadvertantly get burned or hurt "trying to help". Or any of a couple dozen other plausible scenarios where that second person is invaluable.
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    I think one person can put out a came fire, if you can't handle it back off and get help.
    If you dumb enough to run into a fire you can't handle then maybe you shouldn't have had the job in the first place.
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    whats the Problem? When the water can runs out we have to go get more water. If there is a Life to be saved we will do what we can. If not o'well. If the dam Govenor cant make a desision, to correct these issues the Firefighter will......it's just the way it is. Oh & come election day WE will Support a Candidate that SUPPORTS US!!!
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    Part of the problem in Florida is that the gov has no connection to the people.

    He simply doesn't get that there are issues beyond cutting taxes.
  • #59
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    Maybe, just maybe, the politicians would assist by going alone to the fires and see what the problems are all about with no immediate support.
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    Even TWO person teams seems woefully inadequate! Why do the powers that be always consider the grunts to be expendable!?
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