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    The Kentucky Baptist Convention has embraced a controversial strategy for opening the hearts of non-believers to Jesus Christ - giving them a free steak dinner and a chance to win a free gun.

    Awesome, I'll have to share this with my Baptist Pastor and see if we can do it.
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    Why does this article reek of White Southern Males?? The same group that's in the news every week shooting up classrooms and malls full of White people with these guns they got -- this time from church.

    Amen?
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    @wayne2453
    Any shooting that results in someone being harmed or killed is a real problem. It doesn't matter what the politics of the city are.

    It's no accident that by far that most of the mass shootings are committed by young white males.
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    You mean that "outrage" they keep accusing the right of having. Knowing a whole bunch of KY Baptists I can say that I don't think I know any of them that don't already own a gun, mostly for sport and hunting, and should the need arise, defense, and I wouldn't refer to any of them as "rednecks" but I know a couple of those as well, they also own guns for the same reasons.
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    I love the idea! It underscores the complete ineptitude of the Christian message to attract listeners on its own merit and the need to bride people to even sit down and listen to it. And considering the success rate of about 12%- that's the same percentage of the population that are approaching borderline impaired IQs of 80 and below. ;-)
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    You bet it does....Jesus would have loved melting down his plow shares and being able to create a Winchester 30/30. Solid and reliable.
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    I`m a HUGE supporter of the entire Bill of Rights and I`m a Christian, but I have a problem with this gun giveaway. It seems like yet another scheme to politicize the Gospel.
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    What has happened to the Jesus I was raised to know? I don't understand this new Jesus at all.

    Jesus himself did not fight against those who accused him and ultimately put him to death. He told Peter - put away your sword. Jesus said 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment.”

    I will continue to follow the true nature of Jesus Christ as I was taught years ago. I don't understand or even trust this new ideology that seems to be taking over Christianity in America.
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    Is that Sacrilegious? I feel like that's Sacrilegious. I mean free guns are nice, but the Irony in giving out a machine used for killing in the name of a Peacemaker.
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    Meh- they all have torture and execution devises hanging around their necks. It's a blood cult- the only way their god is appeased is through the human blood sacrifice of an innocent. The symbolically drink that human blood and devour that human flesh every Sunday.
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    @SmarterThanYou Goodness, never heard it quite described like that. But I guess essentially that's kind of what it is isn't it?
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    @Ironicguy It's exactly what it is. The whole thing is utterly pagan. Think of Odin- with all these sub gods- that aren't quite as powerful as him but still have strong supernatural powers and can choose to do evil or good. Similar to the Greek pantheon.

    Well, while Christianity maintains its 'monotheistic' they say, "We only have one God!!! But... there is also Satan who has strong magical powers and lives in the underworld- but can do evil things on earth and tempt people. And with him he has demon angels, that have powers, and can posses people, fly between spiritual and physical realms, and then there are angels who protect us, and speak to us for God, and can guide us. If you described that system to an ancient pagan- they would say, "Oh yeah- that's exactly what we have too!" So silly...
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    @SmarterThanYou It's not Pagan... first, in Paganism there is no damning sin to send someone to eternal torment, what kind of being would even come up with the concept of eternal torment? There is right action and there is wrong action and you basically reap what you so, no forgiveness, no free rides. The gods are flawed beings struggling in a flawed world, they can hardly be blamed for everything that goes wrong, they might grant you a favor or provide some guidance, however for the most part they are preoccupied with their own struggles... unlike the Christian God who claims to be Omnipresent and Omnipotent, which means that every bad thing that happens was within his power to stop.

    I'm not saying you should adopt Pagan beliefs, just that you should recognize that Pagan beliefs are on whole much more civilized and reasonable than Christian beliefs.
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    @MarkColwell Paganism is a blanket term referring to all ancient tribal polytheistic traditions. All such systems are completely and absolutely equally unreasonable- for neither can be arrived at through reason. But for argument's sake- one god is very unreasonable to believe. Many gods would seem to be objectively less reasonable. But whatever. Semantics.

    Also- you have your omni's wrong. Omniscience and Omnipotence indicate the power to stop what foreknowledge indicates will happen.
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    Jesus did warn that deceivers would come in his name. I'm not anti-gun, but giving guns away to promote Christ! What was it Jesus said "Blessed will be the weapons manufacturers, for they will shoot the children of God" or was it "if a man slaps you, turn, draw your 357, and blow his head off." Bapitist Church? Is that the Westboro Baptist Church, or perhaps the Church if the Burning Cross
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    @Sam-T-Jones In my opinion he is doing a fine job. Dfending the voter rights laws against racist bigots, doing what he can to reduce prison sentences and stop prosecutions for victimless crimes, seeking to restore the right to vote to those who have served their time. I find fault with him for deporting non-violent folks to Mexico, failing to call for the repeal of the Patriot Act, continuing the war of drugs, failing to indict zimmerman under the for violation federal civil rights, laws and failing to bring Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld up on a variety of charges, but Holder is not half as bad as those waco's that think Jesus should be associated with a contest to get a free gun.
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    @PoliticalSpice Don't forget to add this wonderful thing he did, Gave 1500 guns to mexico that is being used to kill who knows who. And how many people have been killed with your boys guns we'll never know. But we do know one of Holders guns killed an American border portal office.
    Good going there Eric.
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    @Sam-T-Jones My boy? I thought calling black men boys went out with the poll taxes that southern racist relied on to keep blacks from voting, but with right wingers trying to impose voter ID law to reinstitute violations of that fundemental right, I guess the lanuage is making a come back among some folk.

    As to guns, I think far more people were killed by u.s. guns, bombs and planes the u.s. used on innocent civililians of Iraq and Afganistan in recent years.

    And the death of a border patrol agent. Pull-eeeese the border patrol have killed far more mexican nationals then one agent, sometimes even shooting across the border into mexico. Nor, I might do I recognize the right of so called border agents to interfere with non-violent mexican nationals, considering that the California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado and Wyoming all rest either partly or completely on land that was occupied by mexicans before the u.s. stole it from them...
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    @jerbear
    Some a-hole tweaker stole my sword a few years ago! It really angered me, it was my Pop's before it was mine!
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    Republican Jesus would approve. Just check out the Conservative Bible.

    It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a poor man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven . After all Heaven is a gated community.
    - Republican Jesus
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    I actually have a better idea. Why don't they give out free serpents instead of guns, real heavy duty hitters like a King cobra or an Egyptian cobra??????? After all what's the difference between a gun and a snake? A background check? They can then "speak in new tongues" until after they are bitten and their tongues become too swollen to continue. One way to shut them up. LOL!

    "And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues. They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.(Mark 16:17-18)

    Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.(Luke 10:19)
    LMAO! And people say religion is not crazy.
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    I really don't know if it will spread the faith, but it will help defend the homes of all the convertees against government promoted atheists.
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    I don't know why everyone just can't be honest and let states that want to secede, secede. It's pretty painfully obvious that America is not united on anything.

    Guns in church no big deal. I have carried everywhere I go.
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    Most KY folks have guns already and I haven't heard of any of them doing much brother shooting, Chicago, however, is a tad different, eh?
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    @BravoJuliet Guns have gotten better since the days of those feuding families. I don't think the Hatfields or McCoys had semi auto's, auto's, extended magazines, or Gatling guns, but I bet they wish they had.
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    @JackinVienna Oh, I think he understands death. We are all mortal, afterall, and that can't be avoided. According to Christian dogma, those fetuses are in heaven now enjoying eternal paradise. You believe that, right?

    But stupid, arrogant, and hypocritical? That's a matter of choice and too many Christians make it.
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    @Zazziness No....according to Christian dogma those fetus are in limbo. Not having been baptized, their souls are still stained with original sin.

    But keep trying to justify the barbaric practice of partial birth abortions.
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    morality is doing what is right regardless of what you are told
    religion is doing what you are told regardless of what is right
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    Luke 22:36
    "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one".
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    Matthew 26:52
    Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
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    Proverbs 27:15-16
    A quarrelsome wife is as annoying as constant dripping on a rainy day. Stopping her complaints is like trying to stop the wind or trying to hold something with greased hands.
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    @Frosty45
    They are not. They may be classified as caucasian but they are not considered 'white' neither are Arabs and Jews traditionally accepted as such.
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