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    I try not to suspect Monsanto of being run by aliens who want to clear off this planet for themselves but every now and then, I wonder...
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    Fortunately, an anonymous bill writer was able to slip in a clause in a completely unrelated bill to make sure Monsanto can not be held responsible if things like this come to light. Yay us! You'll eat it AND like it, America!
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    http://bestmeal.info/monsanto/facts.shtml

    Monsanto is responsible for more than 50 United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Superfund sites, attempts to clean up Monsanto Chemical's formerly uncontrolled hazardous waste sites.

    Monsanto's deadly legacy includes the production of Agent Orange, DDT, PCBs, and dioxin. Now massive aerial spraying of Roundup in Colombia is being used by the US and the Colombian government as a counter-insurgency tactic, contaminating food crops and poisoning villagers.

    GMO crops and their associated herbicides can harm birds, insects, amphibians, marine ecosystems, and soil organisms. They reduce bio-diversity, pollute water resources, and are unsustainable. For example, GMO crops are eliminating habitat for monarch butterflies, whose populations are down 50% in the US. Roundup herbicide has been shown to cause birth defects in amphibians, embryonic deaths and endocrine disruptions, and organ damage in animals even at very low doses. GMO canola has been found growing wild in North Dakota and California, threatening to pass on its herbicide tolerant genes on to weeds.
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    @BobSmith When reading about them.....what always comes to mind is:

    http://www.ucg.org/kingdom-god/visions-judgme...

    Famine-induced cannibalism is the lowest depth of depravity to which a nation can sink. Scenes like this have occurred in history and God says they can happen again. Reading this in the light of today's headlines is profoundly sobering. These are the deeply distressing events that inevitably occur when men and women become entrenched in a pattern of disobedience to God's laws, stubbornly refuse to submit to their Creator and ignore His warning messages.
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    "GMO canola has been found growing wild in North Dakota and California, threatening to pass on its herbicide tolerant genes on to weeds."

    And then Monsanto can sue the people growing the canola or the weeds and take their sh!t.
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    @Firestorm Corporations are people too. What a big crock of crap we are fed everyday. Too many political lies and scams to mention them all, but until the criminals are voted out and corporations made to do what is right these crimes on man will continue.
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    Higher amounts used on crops is NOT the same thing as drinking it from already dangerously contaminated water supplies. Obtaining clean drinking water is a major problem in impoverished areas, and the solution is not to reduce poor farmers ability to feed themselves, it's to fix the water supplies that they rely on. Starving while drinking less contaminated water doesn't do anyone much good. The heavy metal poisoning of the water is the problem to begin with; this water would slowly kill already even without the glyphosates.
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    Excellent point. Food has to be washed of before you eat it. And who's to say that relieving one's self in the field is not causing problems. I don't buy foreign food that is grown lower than 5' off the ground for this reason. I'll wait until June for fresh homegrown produce rather than eat it year round from Mexico.
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    @DontBlameMe2 I like the five foot rule. Lol!
    Avocados and vanilla beans should be alright, though.
    Leave those anti biotic laden feces flavored tilapia filets from china alone too.

    Roundup is the most prevalent herbicide in nature in the US , today.
    Most state highway departments have abandoned mechanical mowing along roadsides and ditches and spray the bejebus out of it sometimes mixed with even worse herbicides ( crossbow ) and dessicants such as Paraquat, which ultimately in up lakes, rivers and streams.
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    @DontBlameMe2 BS I go out in my garden and eat stuff right off the vine. Food does not have to be washed unless you're putting poisons on it, and most 'homegrown produce' still has that crap on it.
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    @tomincali Exactly !!! I have never seen a porta potty in a field or along side one when they show videos of people picking crops. Not all crops are machine picked either.
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    Not trying to be Pro-Monsanto but I know as having those in our family who farms/farmed including my Dad at one time. Roundup was a blessing in weed control for a long time because of it's ability for "spot applications" without spraying the whole, or the good stuff too.

    I just wonder why we have been using it here in America since I can remember going back to the late "70's" and we haven't had "epidemic kidney failure" but all of a sudden it is in third world nations.
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    That is correct. I'm not going to google it but if my memory serves me right Roundup was originally developed for johnsongrass control in sugarcane fields. In the seventies that's exactly how we used it. Across the front of the tractor was a mounted boom with a " wick-type" applicator which simply applied the herbicide only on the johnsongrass that was taller than the cane by rubbing it as the boom passed. No weeds, no application. It was economical and avoided the mass spraying of the entire field.
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    @BravoJuliet I owned and ran 120 beehives at one time. I could never get my neighbors to understand the importance of timely application of herbicides. Bees are very indiscriminate when it comes to flowers and will work weed flowers just as they will any blossom.
    I lost many more bees to herbicides than to pesticides.
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    @HawkTheSlayer

    that was what's bad about the broad spray herbicides...they only kill certain plants but they're sprayed on everything. With Round Up you can catch it early, kill the root only, and not have to apply again...just cultivate because by then the crops higher and will choke out the weeds sunlight.
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    @BravoJuliet that's what made Roundup so very popular for home use. You want to use the recommended amount. No more. Johnsongrass grows fast. A foot a week. It produces much seed, too. The difficult part in eradicating it are the rhizomes underground. At recommended rates it takes about 7-8 days for the chemical to translocation to the rhizomes(root) and kill them. If you spray at higher rates you will have leaf dessication before translocation and usually have resprout.

    There is virtually no more "cultivation" of row crops of any nature these days. You'd be hard pressed to find a set of cultivators on the farm. The upside is the savings in fuel and wear and tear on equipment. The downside is almost all corn and soybean seed comes " Roundup Ready" which means its been genetically modified and depends heavily upon herbicide application as the primary method of weed control and fills the pockets of Monsanto to the brim with a never ending interdependency.
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    Last summer was spent clearing more land to increase my personal food production. I'm geeked about this season, looking forward to spending hours among the plants in the fresh air. People have been giving me loads of canning jars for free and I'll invest in a second larger dehydrator. Might even try making a solar unit, time allowing. Monsanto, Conagra, Kraft macaroni and cheese can all suck my fat ass.
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    That's what I'm talking about! Sad though, not everyone can do this. People living in the 'burbs aren't going to have access to enough ground to plant much and those in the cities have no place to grow food. I wish I could just produce more of the grains we use, but that's just asking for too much.
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    @2kingsdaughter True, slaves to the processed and imported. I considered trying spring wheat and oats but I couldn't justify using the space since I don't eat that much bread etc. I only grow what I will use and can make a profit without it being more time consuming than it's worth.
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    You're not supposed to drink "Roundup" but America has been using it for years and years now...better double check who's doing the study before making a knee jerk judgment here.
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    My knee doesn't need to jerk on this one. Monsanto is evil.

    We use Roundup here in America a bit more judiciously than a 3rd world country is able to do. We don't douse fields with it, we use better equipment to spread it more thinly and effectively, and we use smaller amounts than what this article discusses. Not much of it gets into our drinking water. That doesn't mean that there aren't cases right here at home of kidney disease caused by this pesticide.
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    @Denizen_Kate

    I've used it for years...since the "70's". You don't douse anything with Round Up...you use applicators...see my other posts.
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    http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/arti...

    DIFFERENT ROUNDUP FORMULATIONS LEAD TO EMBRYONIC, UMBILICAL CORD AND PLACENTAL CELL DEATH AND ARE POORLY ASSESSED

    For the first time, the toxicity mechanisms of four different Roundup formulations were studied in human cells. They act at doses where they are not herbicides anymore. The cells were neonatal cells freshly isolated from the umbilical cord, or less sensitive cell lines specially used to measure pollutant toxicity. The various components of these major herbicides were tested because they are among the most common in the world. Their residues are among the major pollutants, and moreover they are authorized as residues contaminating GM foods and feed at the tested levels.
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    It's an evil plot to rid the world of excess population. But seriously, you know that aliens would NEVER make a crop circle like the one chosen for this thread. Aliens' crop circles are obviously their attempts to ask us: "What ever happened to Roy Orbison?" Just look how much crop circles resemble the Roy Orbison stage props used in the 'Black and White Night Concert'.
  • #135
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    I'll bet it's more likely that Monsanto just has the deepest pockets . these are the same indigenous people who chew tree bark to deaden the pain of their tooth decay.... which coincidentally can lead to infections in the blood and kidney... but what good is a crisis if you can't follow it up with the class action lawsuit
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    Gee, when it combines with nephrotoxic metals it can cause problems? Judging by the name, it would seem that even without the "roundup" the "nephrotoxic" metals would cause problem. After all "nephrotoxic" means "posionous to the kidneys"
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    The crap that we are putting in everything to make it grow faster and bigger is concerning no matter where it is being used. One day we might all be little glow worms should we live through the evolution phase.
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    Not surprised. Anything Monsanto does is verifiably EVIL.....and when I say evil.....up there with President Hussein Obama and abortion.....Monsanto's practices are dangerous, fully for population reduction and actually has ex-Monsanto employees and employers on the EPA and FDA.....contaminated food from Monsanto is NOT just external but in the DNA of the food itself.....
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    Absolutely right. We plant a lot of tomatoes each spring and most of them are GMO. We're forced to plant those because of the prevalence of blight. Even so, we usually try to plant a few heirloom varieties. The GMO one's aren't always productive, even when we purchase the same varieties that worked the year before. The same with other vegetables. Our food supply is being held hostage my Monsanto and with the full support of the Obama administration.
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    @2kingsdaughter
    I doubt Monsanto's takeover of AG was originated by the Obama Administration. Of course, that never stops people trying to associate everything in the world that sucks as being a partisan issue.
  • #127
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    Oh but the MONSANTO whores and pimps in the US Congress continue to fight diclosure of GMO foods and continue taking millions in bribes To keep 'Round-up' on the shelves across America.

    Meanwhile, Lowes and Home depot have 'Round-up' herbicides 'stacked to the rafters'- Monsanto seems to have given them 'great deals' in trying to erradicate the nations Bee's (50% of America's bees died in the past 18 months and scientists and geneticists say 'Round-up' is the cause! <in Europe Monsanto has been sued and most of their chemicals are now 'illegal' to use there>)- and perhaps one day the human species.
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    I must say this post really makes you look silly considering your laziness of reading a simple thread which seems so important to you. I owned and ran 120 hives I the last few years. It also shows extreme ignorance as to bee population decline. I've lost more bees to herbicide applications than pesticide applications.
    The reason for dramatic bee population decline is centered in the Tracheal and Varroa mite population which seriously affects hive population coupled with a virus that that is transmitted from Varroa infection.
    Tracheal mites are an internal infestation. Varroa is an external parasitic infection which can be easily seen with the trained eye of experience.
    It's now known varroa carries a lethal virus.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varroa_destruc...
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    I'll try again but that's complete bull. Bees have been in serious decline since 1983 when tracheal mites first entered from Mexico via assinine policy from the USDA who were fully aware of the mite threat in northern mexico but allowed continued trucking of colonies across the border from texas that initially infected the whole industry through the package bee and queen shipments most northern beekeepers relied so heavily upon for replenishment from the south. It was death blow far greater than any Africanized colony would ever cause this nation.
    I've been in the bee business a long time. I would sure like a link as to effect Monsanto has caused a 50% reduction in bee populations in the last 18 months. Low information never ceases to amaze me. Especially in cases or posts like this.
  • #139
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    @HawkTheSlayer
    " I've lost more bees to herbicide applications than pesticide applications.
    Hum, now I see why you spend so much time on this site.
    YOU HAVE NO BEES!
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    @HawkTheSlayer
    So, its the Mexicans fault, huh Pancho?
    If so, why then has the EU sued Monsanto and won millions in dollar judgements against them?
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