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  • #12
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    Nothing says freedom like dumbing down the SAT's, decriminalizing pot, abortions, same sex marriages, and government dependency...
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    Well, they'll just remove words like FREEDOM, LIBERTY, CONSTITUTION, SECOND AMENDMENT, CHRISTIAN, CONSERVATIVE, TRUTH, MORALITY, GOD.....these fancy words are just too elaborate and elitist, only for the rich and wealthy who can buy more vowels than the poor.....I mean not everyone is Alex Trebeck.....who actually wants be able to read War And Peace when one can read Vogue or Playboy.....for the articles.....

    And it takes time to write those Playboy letters.....uh.....new essays.....one can't make up fantasies with far less vocabulary skills than usual.....in the amount of time they expect you to do so.....

    Ah.....well.....when Beverly Hillbillies start to look like geniuses.....perhaps it is time to worry about education and where it is headed in this country.....
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    I was just thinking the same regarding dumbing down the SATs ( yet again ). I guess its the solution for the USA looking better on the international scale regarding education.
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    @sociald But it won't, we are already behind most developed countries, this will only dumb down the kiddies more.
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    I don't think I'm bragging when I say that I'm not bad at writing... At communicating in the written form... Putting thoughts together in a coherent and complete way that makes a larger point. I got that way by doing it.

    We're headed for the day when no one will be able to think in segments no larger than 140 characters.
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    Reminds me of all those tests of Reagan's Star Wars. Kept making them easier and easier and when it still couldn't pass they just stopped testing and went forward with it. Sorta like that?
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    @RoyFloyd -- You mean like the millions wasted on Solyndra's solar panels which were uncompetitive? Yeah, like that. Or the millions wasted on now Governor McCauliffe's "green energy initiative. That would be another example of what you mean.

    Venture Threatens to Backfire in Virginia Governor’s Race
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/us/in-virgi...
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    why keep lowering the bar,heck look at our public k- 12 schools putting out kids who cannot read write or add.
  • #40
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    Exactly what I said when they wanted to show the movie "12 years a slave"
    They can't even count past 10 without taking their shoes off, past 20 without stripping naked and past 23 without a few friends around.........
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    @stepped_in_it its the dumbing down of America. we need to go back in time when it comes to school. seems kids learned better and faster when all things had to be hand written and looked up through dictionaries and study books. now all a kid has to do is punch things into a computer and they still fail.
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    @tomincali HMMM.....I think I was in HS when the calculator went public. Texas Instruments I believe. You could NOT bring them to school (if you could even afford one). I didn't need one. I've been called a walking calculator.......
    You're right, it's how you learn!
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    @methinks My trig and calculus classes didn't allow them. You had to use a slide ruler and show your work.
    Besides, at that time, that type of calculator wasn't really available .....yet.
    Damn, does that make me old?
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  • #39
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    You made that question way too difficult. More like:
    If you have a bucket in each hand, how many buckets do you have?

    And, to think I got "booed" when they wanted to show the "12 years a slave" movie in school. I said they needed to teach the 3 R's FIRST and tested them to make sure they knew them.
    Ya woulda thought I said the "N" word......several times!
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    LOL - and it's still a question if they will be able to give the correct answer. A few posters here will still be trying to add 2 and 7 and get an answer. :D
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    Yes, give them participation awards and passing grades, because we are afraid to ruin their dreams with their precious little self-esteems, or make them and their parents scream and boohoo and sue. Dumb them down and don't make them frown, even if they are clowns, who won't be employed by people who don't give a shit about their joy.
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    I played sports from age 5 til graduation. I got my first trophy in 9th grade. Our football team went undefeated. It's still in a box in my closet. All the plaques and certificates got lost somewhere along the way. But the one that I actually won is still with me.
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    This is a perfect solution from the liberal mind. We are not holding up in the area of education versus other industrialized nations so the solution is, dumb down the testing. When will people learn that not everyone is qualified for or wants to go to college. It has already been predicted that soon a college education will mean not more than one from high school, masters will be required.

    This is probably the greatest single indictment of our education system and it needs to be changed. Start by eliminating federal involvement.
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    This is not from the "liberal mind." This is from the one percenter parents of dumb, lazy Tiffany and Jake, their "entitled" teens, who wouldn't be able to get into their parents' Alma Mater if Mummy and Pops donated a whole new library.
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    @Pr0-Lif3 In very rare circumstances do they hold kids back now. I knew plenty of kids that got held back when I was a kid...and they were better off for it. It was usually a maturity issue, hence the unruly, undisciplined kids we have today.
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    @methinks The problem is that typically you can make that work at the elementary school level with little impact. But now they are trying to get more people qualified for college where we already have some with basic reading, writing, and arithmetic skills. If professors talk about that problem now, what happens when we lower standards more.

    This is the consistent liberal approach to the problems first to get more high school graduates and GEDs. Yep, lowered the bar to the point a high school education is almost meaningless. Now you can't get a good paying job until you have a college degree, answer, yep, lower standards and get more into college. If it keeps going this way in ten years anyone without a Masters will have a hard time with the "good" jobs.

    That or the general education will be replaced by the targeted college where you learn only what is needed for the job you are wanting. We are already seeing some of the impact of this approach where knowledge of history, art, and literature are devalued. With that conceptual concepts such as morality and fairness are replaced and personal relationships devalued.
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    @Pr0-Lif3 - I blame Mr. Rogers. He spent decades telling children they were all special. When I was in grade school, you had to actually ACE a test or quiz to get a gold star and an A.
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    @Denizen_Kate OMG! You got that right!!! They were talking about how great this change to the SAT was on GMA this morning! WTF is wrong with these people?????
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    @methinks - I dunno ... I never went to college, never took the SATs, so I don't really know how complex or difficult the tests are. I can add 1 + 1 and get 2 buckets, though ... will that get me into Harvard or Yale?
  • #11
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    Pretty soon we won't even pretend to be educating our kids.

    We'll just train them to work, and make them the new proletariat.
  • #53
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    And this all stems from liberal education policies and the stranglehold that the NEA/NFT have on our public school system.

    This will just put us further behind the rest of the world...and throwing more money at the problem hasn't done a damn thing!
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    Kids are entering college not knowing "there, their, and they're," and are unable to compose a coherent paragraph, yet they successfully lobbied to wimpify the SAT. The timed essay is a test of your ability to "think on your feet" and put your argument forward in a concise, coherent, and compelling form in accordance with standard grammar, punctuation, and spelling rules. Kids who can't pass this test need remedial English classes.
    The vocabulary test measures whether applicants spend their free time reading above their grade level instead of wasting their lives on the X-Box.
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    So wait...instead of laxing out on the stuff that is useless in most majors (algebra, physics, etc.), they want to make people even worse writers and communicators than we already have today?

    No, please God no.
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    “It was intended that when Newspeak had been adopted once and for all and Oldspeak forgotten, a heretical thought should be literally unthinkable, at least so far as thought is dependent on words." - 1984

    http://www.netcharles.com/orwell/books/1984-A...

    We no longer need so many or so complicated words, comrades. Words, free thought, ideas are all antithetical to the Amsoc revolution.
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    Narrator: As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species."

    Idiocracy quotes
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