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    "services, leisure and hospitality employers".
    HMMM......can we now say that America has went from a producing nation to a consuming nation.
    One has to only see the types of jobs produced to see where this country is heading. I hate to believe it, but, I think a courtesy flush is in order..........
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    Maybe we can reduce wages to $2 an hour for manufacturing jobs to entice American companies to bring all those jobs they shipped to China back to our shores.
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    We've been a nation based on consumption since the end of WW2. The middle class was our biggest economic driver because they had buying power never before seen by the world. It's a cycle, without people consuming, there's no demand to produce, without middle class jobs, there is no money to consume. We've shipped our middle class jobs overseas, so there's no money to consume (unless on credit), and because there is less money to consumer, there is less need for jobs. Couple that with low wages due to more labor and competition for jobs driving wages down, and you have even less money available for consumption and less need for jobs. If you want to solve the jobs problem you need to stop the downward spiral.
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    @AceLuby You can thank Bill Clinton for shipping our manufacturing base to China. did you know that shortly after he took office the entire contents of our patent office was transferred to China electronically? Then he granted China most favored nation status and allowed them to dump their cheap slave labor made goods in this country tariff free. then levied confiscatory taxes on our industries to replace the lost tariff revenue. Not to mention the asinine "environmental" and social welfare regs that China refuses to obey. If there was ever any doubt that the Clintons are Chairman Mao loving Communists (remember chairman Mao's Little red book they were waving during their 60s demonstrations?) Remember when our military had ot canabalize some equipment for parts to keep the rest running? and the doors to our missle silos welded shut because the republican congress refused to let Clinton destroy our nuclear weapons as long as the rest of the world kept theirs? Now we have an affirmative actioned self esteem enhanced Muslim in office who hates this country and capitalism more than the Clintons did and with this Democrat controlled senate intends to dismantle the rest of our defense system. So bend over and fget in the position, so you can face Mecca and get what our people have voted for..
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    @jdl51 Yeah, and then we'll raise minimum wage for fast food workers to $15 an hour so that they can provide for themselves. While a new car would cost about $5000, a cheeseburger would skyrocket to about $20. Oh well, maybe that would cure the obesity epidemic here in the US.
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    "women gained 55,000 jobs in professional and business services"

    I am willing to bet this was mostly temp secretary and low level administrative services. Also most of the jobs listed seem low paying, which I would hardly call a win.
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    Not necessarily. My grandson just finished a stink in Afghanistan as a helicopter mechanic with the Marines. He had to serve under a female Captain who was so dumb that even the dumbest recruits made fun of her. Her idea of a training session was to pass out copies of a magazine article and then read said article to the bored troops. Remember that female General who was in charge of Abu Graib Prison? she was so dumb that she did not know the first rule about military law or how to command a squad of GIs. Everyone familiar with the military knows that low ranking GIs are afraid of disobeying even the dumbest military restriction, yet they let that babe off the hook with a reprimand and blamed those under her command for "humiliating" for violating military rules. Women are by nature unfit for military action except in clerical and other non combat jobs. Every last woman I know who is in the military are there because that's where the men are. This is what is called a lesson on human nature.
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    @LEC focus, that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. We are talking about low wage jobs for both genders being added is hardly a win for women.
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    @Yank

    Well since we are so used to being under paid it stands to reason that we would accept those low paying jobs sooner than a man would.
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    so first we get the backwards ass spin on a shitty jobs number( we were told it was better than expected) ... and now we are supposed to feel good about the fact that women got these shitty jobs...
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    And let the "war on women" articles commence. Are we really going to have to endure a few years of this, along with income inequality, gay crap and guns?
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    Sure we are. As long as we keep electing democrats, and wimp republicans to office. We are now dealing with the second generation of dumbed down, politically correct indoctrinated students who don't even remember when every man was responsible for his own destiny. They all look to the government to take care of their every need. Our government, as it is today, is what this country's founders were concerned about. It's nothing more than a state religion, having replaced the church's responsibility to minister to the poor and downtrodden. The problem is that the government's one size fits all with no restriction to "go and sin no more" attitude towards it's charity has bred a citizenry of sloths who sit around with their hands out waiting for manna from heaven. This country is ripe for a take down by it's enemies. Just look at the many Mexicans who fled their own country and have taken over the south West and are now yammering to reunite it with the country they fled. Do they really think our government's hand outs will continue once they reunite with their beloved crime and drug controlled country.?
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    I'm afraid women's issues, including pro-life/pro-choice, has been and will continue to be a favorite political football on Capitol Hill. Why do men die sooner than women? Answer: Because they want to! LOL
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    it is up north Dakota weather doing all the fracking ( and I did say fracking)

    good looking strippers out there making 2000 dollars a night.
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    @bsking thought me and the wife enjoy my retirement in the south but I guess we will be moving to the Dakotas...lol
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    @62truckshea nah.. thats a young man's game out there.. 30 below zero winters... 20 something kids making 100,000 a year.. and nowhere to spend the extra cash except for the strip joints can you imagine the money them broads are pulling in?
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    The jobs don't require physicality.
    These aren't heavy metal, lumber jacking, coal mining jobs any more.

    Women are more willing to train for a cube-farm office environment.
    Women are better equipped/socialized for internet services, telephone services, and/or customer services in general.

    Even in food services (aka McDonalds, etc) the potatoes don't come in 50 lb bags any more.
    Every thing has been compartmentalized into smaller amounts to eliminate lift load issues.

    If large scale construction kicks back in,(remember all those shovel ready projects Obama had tucked away some where), then it could level out.

    As long as the economy is going to be little more than customer service and consumer sales, the tilt is definitely towards women.
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    When feminists seized the reins of the human resources offices back in the eighties, job discrimination against men became inevitable.
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    @jamayla

    If ya didn't get notice of the other comment it's cause I added your name and the program auto corrected.
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    Women are better educated than men and are also more reliable as employees. Given a choice between hiring a man or a woman for a job if the qualifications were otherwise equal I would likely hire the woman.
    I was responsible for hiring when I worked. There were not many woman programmers then. Those we found and hired mostly outperformed men at a similar level.
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    Women are also more likely than men to be saddled with enormous debt due to those Stafford loans they will be paying on for the rest of their working lives. Formal education has nothing to do with being smarter. You can earn a master's degree with a 2.0 average. Big deal. Yeah, you would prefer hiring a woman because the Affirmative Action people demanded it of you. Sexist........
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    @CNYer I hired a lot of people in my career. My experience is from the real world not from some theoretical perspective. The difference I saw was explainable. Many men went into programming because they thought they could earn more money there than elsewhere. I never had that with a woman. They enjoyed programming and were very dedicated. We were quite capable of choosing intelligent employees. We did not hire many PHD's after the first one. He did not last long. He was very smart, very capable of studying a situation to a point of exhaustion, but when it came to actually doing real work, hopeless.
    Affirmative action was not a big deal issue in the 70's and 80's. I am not sure but I do not think there were any affirmative action laws that applied to private businesses then. I think that the only thing that we had to do was state we were an equal opportunity employer when we placed adds in the paper. I do not know what happened after 1984. I retired then because of family issues. I was only 42.
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    and here's a news flash.... for the wealthy the recession never happened.

    ...( way to get the obligatory class envy, o r charges of racism or violations of gay rights into every story)
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    and for most of America a recovery never happened. I'll be waiting for a leftist to chime in about the record DOW and ignoring that the top 10% own 90% of the stock in the country.
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    @Yank No actually we agree that the DOW is at a all time high and the top 10% are richer than ever. Doesn't make Obama seem like much of a socialist though.
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    @Darkdreamer look at socialism through the last century. It makes him look exactly like a modern socialist.
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    @Yank Then why have his policies made the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. If he was redistributing the wealth wouldn't the poor and middle class be doing better? I would say he is closer to a conservative than a democrat and certainly not a socialist. He has done very little to help the poor and has cut many programs that did help the poor. The only thing he has done to attempt to help the poor was health care and that was a republican plan that will make the insurance and drug companies more money. So really how is he a socialist again?
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    @Darkdreamer if you pay attention to socialism you will see the rich tend to do fine, and it is the middle class the bears the brunt of it. It is making it so that the masses need the socialist government for their jobs, healthcare, security, food, gas, and every thing else. That is how those governments stay in power. Eventually they collapse under their own weight like Greece and soon Venezuela.
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    Does anybody actually believe the employment numbers the Government puts out every month any more? They tell us unemployment is getting lower while we have 2 or 3 million less people employed than there were 5 years ago when Obama became President. It's all spin and propaganda.
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    When it comes to consumerism, with the exception of beer and truck sales, let's face it men, we don't count! We are the buffoons and after-thoughts of Madison Avenue. We hear of the black vote, the gay vote, the Hispanic vote, the white vote and the women's vote (most sought after by all politicians), but what about the MEN's vote??? The economy will not improve as long as politicians continue to exploit women by pandering and lying, and also as long as Wal-Mart and other retailers and hospitality/service businesses continue to prefer women over men because they can hire them for less wages.
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    Well that's very easy for a woman to say that; it's easier for a woman to get a low paying job than a man. If a man in desperation tries to get just any job to help support his family, assuming there are no jobs available in the field he just got laid off from, guess what? The interviewer (most of them are female) may assume once this man finds a better job (sexist assumption), she'll have to go through the interviewing process again. No surprise that 95% of fast food workers and supervisors are female.
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    there is a reason why woman are getting picked up... it comes down to single unwed mothers.. companies get tax credits for them, if they are on susidies or some form of welfare progam.. men only get picked liked that if they have children with subsidies... I have been to places where they are started prescreening for the subsidies, they do it in way that is not discrimminating, adding it to the application process..
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    The children are the future so it's obvious that women are the future too. IMO they should be afforded EVERY benefit and opportunity for this simple fact alone.
  • #66
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    Women a have a lot more sense than macho name calling men who actually lack the cohanis to behave like real men. Kathy Castor should be elected President of the United States in 2016. However, Kathy Castor's politics are not for sale, so she'll continue as a very decent and brilliant member of the U. S. Congress from Tampa, Florida
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    Initially it will favor women as men are slow to make the transition to retail, service and administrative jobs if they have a manufacturing or construction background. However, school and college leavers will size up the relative opportunities and make appropriate career choices. There is a risk of long term unemployment for young men who are poor school performers. They tend to struggle in the new employment market as manual types of work dry up. This is my experience of growing up in a steel manufacturing city that saw its heavy industry workforce drop from 90,000 to 20,000.
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