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    I don't much agree with Mr. Ryan...but in this he has a point.

    Much of our work is in the inner-city. Topeka, Kansas...Kansas City, Missouri...Wichita, Ks...etc.

    It just sucks that someone speaking a truth is then subjected to partisan hate and glee that he may have offed his chance at a presidential bid.

    Truth is not always pretty...and more often painful to hear.

    But truth is necessary if we are going to save ourselves.
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    I hear you. I don't like this guy at all. He comes off pretty much as an total douche, but he does have a point. It is not just in the cities. I grew up in SE Kentucky. I know of plenty of people that come from 2 and 3 generations of family that never held a job.
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    Also note how Rep. Lee played the race card right away.

    They just continue to ignore the elephant in the room. 75% of blacks are born out of wedlock, and this falls right into what Ryan stated. They are lazy if they just walk through life playing the role of baby daddy imstead of imvolved father...which would help eliminate the crime and poverty.
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    @methinks absolutely. 75 percent born out of wedlock.... but that's the 75 percent of the 50 percent that are not aborted. the bottom line is all of the problems of the inner city have been orchestrated by the left.
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    This is truth. How do we know? The people whining and moaning about it.

    Look what is championed in the black community. And look what is frowned upon.It is an embarrassment. My ancestors didn't break their chains and get lynched to have us in the position we are in now. Race hustlers, hip hop culture misogyny considered to be 'ok' and an endless list of 'help' that has destroyed the black family.
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    I was just in downtown Indy this week for competition. When we had free time I was at the mall and saw scores of young men, black and white who appeared to be in their 20s. Just walking around in sagged pants doing nothing at 2 on a Monday.
    Lots of inner city young men do not work. If can be seen right before anyone's eyes who goes to any public place in any city.
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    @Zazziness how do you know I'm not president Obama keeping tabs on you all, posing as a 17 year old libertarian? Anythings possible, but not always likely.
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    @RONPAULFAN There are all sorts of things that are likely and given a crowd of people, each will be true of a certain percentage. Some of those young men work swing shift or graveyard shift at a legitimate job -- I'd say laziness is in the eye of the beholder. You assume they are lazy so that's what you see.
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    He is clearly right. Truth is not racist. The unemployment benefits, food stamps and other 'safety net' programs are at the bottom of the problem.
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    P.S. His attitude, and yours by extension, is why the right won't be winning any presidential elections for some time to come. Blame it on the "free stuff" BS myth all you want, it further shows just how out of touch with reality they are.
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    There is absolutely no truth to what Ryan said.

    And yes, it's absolutely racist for Ryan to say that the problem of poverty is because black men are lazy.
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    Poverty is at the bottom of the problem. It isn't the handouts, it's the lack of jobs, the racial bias in hiring practices, and the poor quality of education in our inner cities and poor rural areas. Add to that this insistence on the part of Corporate American that you need a college degree for every type of job imaginable from accountants to janitors, and you have created an entire class of people for whom just basic subsistence has become unattainable.
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    He's absolutely right about there being a culture problem, but it is not confined to the inner cities. It's all over the country and affects people of all races.
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    Nothing racist about it unless the truth is now considered racisim! Come to south Dallas at 9:00 on any weekday and count the young black men drinking 40s and hanging out. It's past time for the black community to address the issues of crime and poverty. Can't count on the white man because all we do is apologize and throw money at the problem.
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    Shamus, the truth is now considered racism most of the time. Just tell the truth and see the race cards flying. They don't care about the truth, maybe afraid of the truth Or just don't want to hear it.
  • #210
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    Come by my neighborhood then. I'm a Grad student and I'm the only white person in my entire neighborhood. Literally everyone else is black. Leaving for class at 11 am on a weekday, this place is a ghost town, except my neighbor, who works 14 hour shifts at the hospital. Come again on a weekend and the place is jammed with barbecues and kids playing in the park.

    I don't care what you've seen with your own eyes. Extrapolating it and applying your minute and insignificant experience to the entire country is not only stupid, it's flamboyantly arrogant and empirically useless.

    Besides, what are you doing out docking around, watching guys at 9:00 am on a monday? don't you have a job?
  • #292
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    @eph3x_andrew I'm installing life safety (fire alarm) in low income apartments. You know, more shit for free. I don't believe for one minute you're the only white person in the hood. I think you're full of white guilt and a sincere apologist
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    @eph3x_andrew

    What type of neighborhood do you live in? Sounds a little too perfect... 8/9-5 Monday - Friday jobs, all the kids in school where they should be, on weekends parents spend quality time with the families, kids playing in the park... I bet you see a lot of American flags being displayed proudly at these people's home's.

    Yes places like this exist, does it represent the majority? You tell me
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    {double facepalm} Seriously? That's the goal of the Democratic party? Do you really believe that at least half of the registered voters in this country have poverty and government handouts for all as their goal?

    Keep repeating the far right wing nut job rhetoric, there's a good boy ... not bothering to actually think for yourself is apparently even more addictive than not working for a living.
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    @Denizen_Kate yes it is the goal of the Democrat party to get voters addicted to needing the government. Food, housing, welfare, why do you think they have such a huge advantage in urban areas? Do Democrats just naturally like living in poor inner city areas?
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    @Yank - It never seems to occur to the far right of the GOP that inner city and other poverty stricken areas vote Democrat because the GOP is constantly blaming the victim and alienating people whose biggest crime is being a minority, something you probably think is a choice. They vote Democrat because the Dems don't harangue them for what they cannot help. They don't vote Republican because the GOP prefers to be seen as the party of the wealthy, and the wealthy have no idea what it is like to worry about how to put food on the table or shoes on their kids' feet or pay next month's mortgage or rent. When you have millions of people with no choice but to live paycheck to paycheck, and those paychecks keep shrinking from year to year mostly due to conservative economic policies, then is it any wonder so many working poor vote Democrat?
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    @Denizen_Kate yeah, I am sure that is it and not the freebies enticing them to vote democrat to keep it coming in.
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    There are lots of hard working people in the inner cities...many of them work two or more jobs...unfortunately, the young see people putting in this effort and see that they are barely scrapping by...then they see the people selling drugs making over 1K a day...many do turn to selling drugs....but that's only because the young can see with their own eyes that's their best opportunity...we shouldn't blame this on the people in the inner city....we should blame it on our economic system and society in general
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    The breakdown of the family has a lot to do with it. These same kids turning to drugs to make a living are the same kids with no father in their lives. 75% of them are born to single mothers. That is a FACT.
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    Yes, let relieve them of all responsibility. It's not like the community can change from within with all the external forces at work.
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    Sad the left can not accept reality.What ?They do accept the reality of lazy.Perhaps so, that is what keeps the voter base alive for the democrats.Not all as I am a democrat by registration.But the mis-guided do understand it is what they need to have to further modern day slavery under the American flag and not the stars and bars .lol in both cases it is and was wrong yet Ryan is blasted for stating an obvious fact.
  • #139
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    Sometimes lazy and hopeless are a lot alike.

    But if you dared to go to the inner cities at dawn, you'd find plenty of guys standing on the corners looking for a days work.
  • #164
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    TWO THUMBS UP To Paul Ryan for his Valid and salient points on Liberalism!!!

    The old adage of "the truth hurts" is in evidence here with the typical rantings of Barbara Lee defending her party's "culture of dependency" by injecting, once again, Racism into the fray. <wink>

    Instead of listening to the expected "BS," excuses and blame from the Left. Lets see it happening in living color. Note the arrogance of these Neanderthal Freeloading parasites--

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/0...



    http://www.youtube.com/embed/RBqjZ0KZCa0... ;
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    He's right in part and out culture today has been saying it's easier to draw welfare, get food stamps, and you don't have to work, or you can still get health care and work less hours...but it's not just limited to ti inner cities, just look a "food stamp surfer boy"...it's on the beaches too!

    But I''ll be damned if I remember what bunch of idiots it is who's really pushing this shit the hardest.(SNARK / ON)
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    he's absolutely right and its just too freaking bad that barbara Lee doesn't like anybody to say anything against " the inner city" because of her illusions of code words... everyone who says something contrary to her bs are using codewords for racism... she's a typical race baiter... and an ignoramus.
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    Yes because laziness is exclusive to inner cities....go out to any trailer park and see all the fat asses living of their kids food stamps and girlfriends child support check...*hint* trailer park is code for white *hint*
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    But to be perfectly clear I don't think the majority of those on foodstamps, race withstanding, are sitting around twiddling their thumbs...they're busting their asses just to get by.
  • #249
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    @Food4thoughts
    Amen. I know lots of people who are on food stamps. Every one of them is working, not only one job, but two or more. Low lousy wages, low lousy hours, low or no insurance. If we kept that way, they will never get out of the rut. Im not talking inner city here, by the way, but rual and small town people. The factories they had, have all closed, and the jobs sent off to Timbuctu or some such place, where the workers are paid 50 cents an hour, so the products can be sent back here and told 50 cents cheaper, to the people who have no jobs.
  • #406
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    It is not exclusive to inner cities, and trailer parks are often the "White version" of inner cities, though that is a stereotype too. And there are plenty of IR relationships in trailer parks too, and not just in the inner city.
  • #146
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    Inner City Black men are not lazy. They have job!
    Selling Drugs, Standing on Corner watch for law enforcement, robbing each other, impregnating women especially Black, White, Latino others, selling counterfeit movies and other goods, destroying their grand parents hard work, credit, and finances, killing each other, etc.
  • #127
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    Sometimes the truth hurts. The statement is not all encompassing but is for the most part dead on. Romney's statement wasn't incorrect either regarding the 47%. Again the truth hurts and your not supposed to expose or admit that kinda truth.

    They are not working 3rd or 2nd shift they are not doing anything but either living off some family member or other person and what they get from the city, state, federal government.
  • #71
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    S0....like those media whores who just love the poor, the obvious causes and parts of the shitty-inner-city poverty problems we should continue to ignore? Would Illegitimacy, Immigration and Illiteracy have anything or many things to do with this income-gap crap, wage-disparity drivel, and the slanted playing-field squeals? Note: View and listen to those 99% Democrat pests and guests on the stages of the Jerry Springer and Maury Povich TV shows; most of them irresponsible baby daddies and unwed Obama mothers and others who bottom feed and breed bastards and brats for the Democrats. How can you make them stop without empowering the cops? Whining about dislike crimes and beratin' about hatin' toward darkest downtown Dayton will not address, much less solve, the self-created poverty problems caused by the bad behavior of poor dependent dumbasses who are depending on a government savior.
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    "99% Democrat pests and guests on the stages of the Jerry Springer and Maury Povich TV shows" Are you a fan of those shows? You know for a fact that all those dysfunctional people are Democrats? Seriously?

    I've sat through a few minutes of those shows and others like them. Those people are neither for real (most of that crap is scripted for added "drama") nor are they in any way political or even capable of real political analysis. I doubt most of them even know the difference between Democrat and Republican. Your rancor sounds quite racist to me.
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    Prove I am wrong. Note their behavior. Profile! Any or many black Republicans on those stages? They do not have the brains of Dr. Ben Carson or Herman Cain and that is plain and does not have to be explained, although it would strain the brains of typical while liberals and cause them pain.
  • #200
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    I always wondered who actually watched those shows-thanks for sharing your addiction and filling us all in with your critique, Cool. Oh, and thanks for actually visiting those shows and tabulating who those folks vote for-we all know youre WAY too "Cool" to just "guess" at their voter registration.........in order to fuel to rage and anger and contempt for anyone who doesn't look like you........ ".......breeding bastards and brats, eh?" You have, in a very few words, completely confirmed the veiled racism in Paul's commentary, and shown us all your own very real racist streak.
    Frankly, your ranting, drooling post is quite possibly the most inane, insipid thing ever posted on Politix, well, except for what we get from the two resident KKK members we have that like to "join in" when their massive insecurity issues and fear of change click in. Thanks again for sharing your deluded worldview. Keep 'em coming!
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    i have the suspicion that if it were 10 thousand years from now there would be no change, the "victim-mentality" Blacks would still be demanding reparations and still be wailing they never had a shot at the good ife. They would ignore all the years of affirmative action, all the National Black this and the Society for Black Blah Blah, the Black Business Men's Association, the Black every D@mN thing. As long as its profitable to whine intead of work they will do so. Notice i did not say ALL BLACKS, I said those who have been raised to stick to their tales of woe/victimology, its their meal ticket.
  • #102
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    Ryan and his ilk are blind to the fact that the vast majority of inner city people jam the buses and subways going to work and back every day fighting to exist. Sometimes working at two jobs early in the morning and late at night. He does not see what he does not want to see. There are millions and millions of people of color. people living in projects and ghettos,with a great work ethic filling all types of jobs. He should open his eyes and see the real world.
  • #59
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    I wondered how long it would take the LIBERAL MEDIA to go after Paul Ryan. He is one of the most decent men in the Congress and there is no way the liberal media cannot go after him since who knows he might be someone who seeks higher office and gets in the way of a liberal dirt bag seeking the same office. Ryan is right we have a culture in the inner cities where men don't want to work. They would rather do drugs and have children with a variety of women. I guess the problem is he struck a nerve with one of those dirt bags.
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    @Denizen_Kate Does that not make him a decent man. I happen to believe that both he and the man he ran with were honest and highly moral men. You know men a character and they are not valued by that part of our society that doesn't value honesty, work and the the truth.
  • #302
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    @fscott777 - right wing rhetoric again. I'm one of those who has always valued honesty, hard work, truth and honor ... it's how I was raised. And IMHO Romney and Ryan are politicians, no better or worse than those they ran against. At best, they lack an understanding of how most Americans live from day to day and paycheck to paycheck. At worst, they understand well enough but feel mostly contempt for those less fortunate.

    As for being moral, that's a subjective word and means different things to different people. I don't judge them on their personal and private lives -- my opinion is based on their own words and deeds.
  • #304
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    @rdr - Maybe we do need to keep reading. We Americans don't seem to listen to each other very well. I like to think that I can at least listen, and comprehend even when I disagree. But perhaps that's just me.
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