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    People, when pulled over, stay in your vehicle with both hands visable and on the steering wheel. Passengers, keep your hands visible, too. Exit the vehicle only when instructed.
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    Or maybe we hold accountable the poor decision makimg thats leading to these incidents. I resent the suggestion that this civilian was in the wrong. Officers should maintain a higher level of critical thinking and be train to deal with these situations in a more professional manner. Example: officer pulls individual over. At the time his vehicle come to a stop oen driver door. This door now provides adequate cover from potential fire. In the case the suspect exits his vehicle use door as cover kneel to firing position. If at night use spot and give clear calm directions. In the worse case scenario be prepared to "Return" accurate deadly fire.

    There should be only a very few sernarios where police officers shoot first. They have bullet proof armor for this very principal. I understand they take risk however they also choose to take those risk. There should also be a clear understanding of the responsibility of those risk. The citizens should not have to endure such recurring tragedies. As a citizenship however we can demand through public protests that these tragedies are dealt with more accountable on these officers behalf.
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    This cannot be be overemphasized! Cops are way too nervous and aggressive as it is, Extra vote up...
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    I'm just glad the LEO was a lousy shot. 1 out of 4??
    I will have to commend the compassionate nature of the deputy. That's a lot more than some I've seen/heard of.
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    @Rocker Agreed. There's nothing more dangerous than a trigger-happy cop who also happens to be a piss-poor shot. He's also lucky he didn't kill some driver driving by on the road. This officer is a compassionate menace.
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    @Rocker I've known many cops in my life and I've never known one that actually wanted to use their weapon.

    One of our neighbors when i was a boy was a cop who shot and killed one of the escaped prisoners who tried to run a roadblock the Oakland police had set up on route 208.

    Although he received a commendation for his action, he never recovered from the incident and less than a year later he quit and moved away.

    Everybody seems to think that training solves everything. It doesn't, even if many of the gun toting fanatics on this Website think that they're trained well enough to carry, but a cop isn't. What a joke and a blatant display of hubris. Most of them would be lucky if they didn't shoot their foot off in a real situation.

    I'm not a big fan of American police, particularly after I experience the attitudinal difference between them and the English cops during a visit to my cousins in Southport UK. When an English cop says SIR, it sounds like he means it. When an American cop says it, he makes it sound dirty, so I suggest that the Americans would be wise to learn their manners from the Brits.
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    @Ryunkin: "Everybody seems to think that training solves everything. It doesn't, even if many of the gun toting fanatics on this Website think that they're trained well enough to carry, but a cop isn't. What a joke and a blatant display of hubris. Most of them would be lucky if they didn't shoot their foot off in a real situation."

    You do have a point here, there are a lot of armchair commandos in the world, but I think you have a mistaken view of police training. Many citizens do indeed have more training than the average cop. Aside from SWAT types cops get very little firearms training. A typical once yearly qualification will require the officer to fire a total of 20 rounds at 7 and 12 yards, with 70% being a passing score. A friend of mine on the Chicago PD had me do a demonstration once, I easily got a 100% on their qualification course. And I'm a fat, half blind, gimp.:)

    http://pistol-training.com/archives/5915
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    Like I said in my post of this story to links 8 hours ago this waste of flesh needs to not be a cop.The CAIN was never pointed at him he shoots and then tells the victim he is sorry,WTF.
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    The CAIN ( I am guessing cane ) was never pointed at him. I'm not happy with how it appears that the law enforcement officers in this country are all apparently Double O agents working for MI6 in their free time. However, even I realize that mistakes happen and if it had been a shotgun (hard to tell at night) by the time it's pointing at you it's to late. Then we'd just get a story about a cop that was shot at a traffic stop. Which also way to often.
    Hell, what am I saying. A story about a cop being shot while doing a traffic stop. We'd never get that on here
    http://www.firstcoastnews.com/story/news/loca...
    Because then we'd have to empathize with the shitty position they're put into. Because this shit does happen. We just don't fixate on it like we do when they're the ones shooting.( which I agree is far to frequent )
    I suppose we can just blame dumb,lazy cops with ego problems instead of scared of dying before they get home to their wife and kids because someone doesn't want to go to jail for a suspended license and guns are just so damned easy to come by in this country. Because then we'd be talking about the real problem. Most just want to drown that one out though.
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    @TRex84 I guess several of the cops that are personal friends and those of which I shoot with on weak ends are as mis-guided in their hatred or disgust with cops (brown shirts)like this waste of flesh?
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    @miketost Brown shirts? Really? You're comparing them to the SA? You know how that demeans a real argument later were that comparison might actually be legitimate. Cry wolf much? Were the cops in this nation "brown shirts" in 2007? Did they carry out a series of political assassinations to get Obama the White House?
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    Dogs, homeless people, now seniors? Sounds like the only people cops ARENT shooting are real criminals, like the cartels on the border.
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    Disgusting maybe these deputy "dawgs" should be reminded that people are innocent until proven guilty of a crime. Reaching for a cane doesn't appear to rise to the level of a crime. Sheesh, this is one of the reasons I stay out of the southern States. I can remember back in the 60's in Georgia and up through Virginia, Highway Patrol men looked like goons, from some gang or mob. Mirrored sunglasses and always, always had their hand on their weapon the only thing missing was the cone head.
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    @stepped_in_it 1. Tennessee 2. Nevada 3. Alaska 4. New Mexico 5. South Carolina 6. Delaware 7. Louisiana 8. Florida 9. Maryland 10. Oklahoma
    Since you are from Tennessee you might enjoy this.
    Tennessee has the dubious distinction of having the worst violent crime rate in the country. The state was among the top 10 in the country for murders and robberies and was first for aggravated assaults, with an estimated 479.6 for every 100,000 residents.

    http://247wallst.com/special-report/2013/10/0...
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    @JohnVicky Yepper. If I was you, I'd stay outta Memphis and Nashville. But, then again, you libs love the violence, so have fun in those cities.
    As for me, I'll stay in the country. One neighbor. 200 yard clear line of sight (being a lib, you won't understand that term). No noise except for the birds and crickets....(again, for you those flying thingys).
    have fun urbanite........
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    The old man is 70 years old...in his day it was normal to get out of the car after being pulled over by a cop. The cop is 24 and was clearly scared for his life. After he realized it was only a cane, the deputy broke down and cried. I am happy the old man will survive...
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    heartbreaking? it was downright pitiful to watch a man cry like a baby... for crying out loud the Vietnam veteran that he shot was trying to console him. that cop should be fired for being a pussy.+ its been on the link page since yesterday
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    He should have been crying, he shot an unarmed man.
    As a cop, you need to expect it anytime you are a dick to people. Atleast now, this guy will get out of the charges.
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    @BillS " as a cop you need to expect it anytime you are a dick to people""

    I understand the guy should feel bad for shooting an unarmed man... but I didn't understand the above statement.
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    I read about this........
    I know that some of the LEO out there are vicious thugs. I do NOT believe ALL are thugs. I would not, could not do their job. The world has become..........vicious. And I don't know if I could/would not do the same as this officer. He will most likely lose his job.....too bad.
    Advice:
    When pulled over my the police. Never, EVER get out of the car. Leave your hands on top of the wheel in plain sight. Make no sudden moves. Tell them in advance BEFORE you reach for anything. Best advice I have. I know some here will say I'm a sell-out. Nope. I pick my battles. And they, at this time, have the advantage.
    Better to live today and fight tomorrow than die today and never fight again!
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    @stepped_in_it : While you give good advice, cops need to learn that not everyone is equal. Disabled man grabbing his cane is second-nature to him; the thought it might be mistook for being a weapon never crosses his mind.

    But your advice doesn't always work. No pun intended, Did you hear the one about the deaf guy who was beaten by the cops because after the cops yelled at him to put his hands up, he didn't?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/15/pear...

    Officers in Southern California might beat you up, and then teaser you if you try to sign:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/19/deaf...

    Even happens in jolly England, where the cops might arrest you for using rude gestures - which turns out to be sign language:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13151...

    I could go on, but my personal experience suggests these kinds of things happen all too frequently.
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    @Kimber_TLE While they do, have YOU thought about joining the force....
    Me neither.
    Do NOT complain until you filled their shoes.
    I don't think you could........fill their shoes!
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    Good job Lisa of politix I posted this story 8 hours ago.More will see it now. lol.You guys really need a hot line in order to be first.
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    The root of your problem is you forget to call your minions. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@............... I no longer go to the links section unless one of the RWNJ's stories from NotSoBretibart or Da Blase', or my favorite MrCONman, makes it to the front page, it is a virtual wasteland of blogs and unsubstantiated claims from.........You guessed it RWNJ's
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    @Hillofbeans I'm sorry if my @@@ got you here. I don't use it unless I am calling "your legions" of ill-informed, low info types. Again sorry I called you here I will reserve my @@@@'s for when they are truly needed. LOL!
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    Apparently cops are being trained that all citizens plan to kill them every single time they go on a call. I used to support law enforcement, but now it appears they are just a bunch of trigger happy paranoia cases.
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    @Denizen_Kate
    Apparently you don't know as many LEO's as I do. They all kind of remind you of Napoleon from orwell's animal farm. You know we are all equal just some us are more equal than others.
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    @DrNickels ...I think maybe it's just the use of that particular description, you come across as educated and are mostly well articulated, so when you use that word, it makes you seem less so, it's demeaning to ones intelligence, disappointing in a way...
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    @hankf68
    Ah well you know what they say "impressing others and meeting expectations is difficult. Pissing people off and offending them is easy".
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    Heartbreaking. Well, you know this is no cold hearted cop. Officers are so trained to look out for a weapon and fear for their lives that I believe they are too quick to shoot. They have been trained this way and now they are always afraid of a weapon. When in fact, cops getting shot when they have to pull someone over is rare, but they are trained to side on their life's err of judgment. I'm glad the man is ok and that this cop did not shoot to kill! Hopefully after some time off and counseling he can return to work. An officer whose reaction to shooting is that and not trying to cover up any wrong doing is the type of officer we want. He will never be too quick to shoot again. This is forever ingrained in his mind and his heart. We've all seen stories of cops doing much worse and nothing happens to them. I really hope this man can forgive the officer and actually tells him he forgives him. The officer was obviously very repentant. That's not something you see much either.
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    Yes, but the only heartbreak should be for the old man. The "poor deputy" who miscalculated and should be discharged does not qualify. Yes, the old guy didn't "properly put the officer at ease"........but frankly, citizens are not required to worry about officer ineptitude and should not be expected to accept that cops will shoot you if you do not make them feel "safe" enough.
    And the didpshit superior who is immediately covering up for his subordinate? Fire that guy for being stupid enough to say something that inane to the media.
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    Funny how they want to Citizens to "make them feel safe", but if a Citizen doesn't feel "safe" around a cop, what is his recourse? None.

    The Police fought all the way to the Supreme Court to ENSURE that they are NOT required to protect you. And they expect YOU to feel bound to "protect" THEM?? Who works for who here?
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    if we had not allowed the thuggery to get so far out of control in this country, maybe cops would not fear every car on the road being armed
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    @jerbear lol well then that embarassed little girl better hold on to her hat, this is the internet. I might ask what a "little girl" is doing reading a site like politix where just about every single thread contains something ignorant or derogatory to begin with. Politix is part of Topix...an even BIGGER cesspool. Cleaning up language is one thing, doing it for the sake of little kids being somewhere they shouldn't is another.
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    @Real4WheelDrv The girl is 14, and had been sheltered by where she was raised. She was not actually on it, her uncle, which is me, had allowed her to be in room and I never thought a story about a policeman shooting the old man would have post with a post like that. So I am to blame too, but tell me, why do you use language like that anywhere?
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    I have a Ph.D. so I consider myself educated. I also consider myself to have what you call "class". Sometimes, though, I just get fed up with these stories of "murder by cop." And sometimes, profanity gets the point across better than anything else. And actually, this is the first time I've ever used this particular word in a post. You're welcome to check them here on Politix.

    However, a 14-yr-old girl, unless raised in a convent by nuns on a mountain top completely isolated from anyone who speaks the English language, should certainly have heard profanity -included the f-word. Even Catholic school kids can cuss like a sailor, from what I've heard come out of their mouths, so again, unless this gal is isolated or home-schooled, I'd be willing to bet that she's heard that particular word before. If not, she's far too sheltered and isolated and I'd have to seriously wonder.....

    But if she's that immature, she certainly doesn't belong on any adult forum. And as her Uncle, you should have known better.

    My opinion of the domestics terrorists we call police has not changed. And I don't apologize for what I said.
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    Deputy was mighty quick on the trigger, as we say in miami. he instantly assumed it was a long gun, he didn't wait for the guy to bring up the "barrel" either, but let loose with a barrage while the guy was putting the tip down on the ground.

    yes, old dude shoulda stayed inside the car. How about cops should immediately broadcast instructions to stay in the car, hows that? This is the 2nd video I've seen today where the cop was too polite - this one was saying , "sir, sir" instead of immediately ordering him back in the vehicle. Good, positive control that avoids injury or arrest is better appreciated than polite language.
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