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    Since these 4 cops are probably not assigned permanently to this school, did they take the time to sign in? I mean zero tolerance is zero tolerance.
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    Remember...these aren't your kids.

    "It takes a village to raise a child."

    And in this case, the Village Idiot is busy calling the cops...

    Un-damned-believable.
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    @DonB it can be, but not always. how about 0 tolerance of bigotry, 0 tolerance of discrimination, 0 tolerance of bullying, and 0 tolerance of ignorance?... ooh, ooh... i know... 0 tolerance of hatred. would that one work for you?
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    I follow your good point, nonetheless I still prefer clarification,understanding, reconciliation and reform to harsh treatment and knee jerk reaction to laws/regulation . We might want to live under law , but particularly "the spirit of the law" , which should never be punitive for a citizen. Courts can be wise and merciful. It is the courts that must weigh every transgression as innocent until proven guilty. Of course we also need legislators of wisdom who will never betray their people. Zero tolerance might not contribute much toward realizing these democratic principles and human rights..
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    @Knightkore I can hardly believe that this zero tolerance nonsense has now actually extended to the parents. We are a doomed nation and a doomed society if this continues.
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    Because of Sandy Hook, I see the need for stepped up school security, BUT...

    1. The school called her to come in.
    2. The article states she is a KNOWN parent...who was called in by the school!

    This is the most batshit crazy reaction I've ever seen!
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    After this and the girl who shaved her head... Can we all agree that zero-tolerance policies in our schools are as wrong-headed as it can get?

    I hesitate to mention mandatory sentencing, and the wars on drugs and I won't mention the other examples I consider as wrong-headed because opposition to this kind of crap here should not be a partisan issue.
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    This is the point that irks me, that no one seems to be talking about..
    "After getting the call, Williams came and was buzzed in by school officials."
    So.. You buzzed her in, then had her arrested to cover your fuck up? Nice. Once again proving it's ok for bureaucrats to fuck up, but not the rest of us.
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    @Fishbone345 I missed that. I didn't get past the mention of Asperger's. My blood boiled. That makes it even worse. Thx for the info. I'll go back and read it again.
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    @Fishbone345 Yeah I thought that was plum stupid.....why the hell buzz her in.....have her sign in BEFORE you buzz her in.....shit and shinola.....if we are allowing asylum inmates run our schools we're in deep creek.....without no paddles.....
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    Did you hear about the girl who was suspended after taking a razor blade away from a boy who was cutting himself? Honestly, this zero policy stuff is bordering on lunacy.
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    The supposed reason for mandatory sentences was to prevent favoritism and racial bias. It prevents two people from committing the same and one getting a slap on the wrist and the other getting the book thrown at them.
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    All these crazy school stories lately have helped me know that I have made the right choice in not wanting to bring kids into this screwed up world...
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    Your politicized public school tax dollars at work! And that's exactly why I sent my three Protestant kids to Catholic school! And I have NEVER resented a single tuition dime...
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    Stupid, as I said elsewhere, it seems perfectly normal and rational people enter a school to work and lose all sense of reality and are only able to function as an unthinking robot! Wait for the law suit, it should be a doozy.
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    did you actually think before you posted that? do you really believe that only applies to schools? have you ever worked in a hospital that would allow you to think for yourself, or must you follow all the rules? even factory workers have to follow the rules. shoot... we have to follow the rules in every part of our lives. i'm a cook... i have to follow the rules. that doesn't mean that i can't think and ask questions also, though.(and even work to get some of those rules changed if they make no sense)
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    @dances-weebles Thanks for the down vote, since this article was about, SCHOOLS and the action of one of them, my reply was about schools. Yeah, silly me, sticking to the subject at hand. Other than that I really don't get why you were so snarky in your response. Having a bad day?
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    @Tralee sorry... i don't do downvotes. that's the job for the downvote fairies.

    and no, i wasn't being the least bit snarky. it was a simple question.
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    Good grief. Complete idiots are "educating" kids? They know the woman. It's pretty simple.....mom gets phone call that child is having attack. Mom says I'll be on my way. She reaches school, rings buzzer and is let in. If she doesn't come to the desk, then go to where her kid is at. IF for some reason, you feel the need to call the police, maybe the $@&()%# cops should have enough common sense NOT to arrest the mother once they figure out nothing is wrong. Geez. Why are people sooooooo stupid.
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    They buzzed her in. They knew who she was and why she was there. The only way she could have known her son was in distress is because they had called her! If she broke the law so did the school official who buzzed her in without signing. Did they arrest that person? Obviously not or it would have been reported. The school personnel are responsible for insuring a parent signs in before they buzz the door to allow entrance. I can honestly say that would not happen at our school. One day my husband walked our daughter into school and was just gotten onto and told the rule. That's it! He had work equipment in his truck that prevented our daughter from being able to exit his truck on the appropriate side. The next time he dropped her off the same teacher smiled at him and gave him a thumbs up. No one is ever buzzed in before signing in. I'm sure an emergency with a child would let that be over looked as long as the school knows who the parent is. Our officers get to know the parents and the children. It is a very friendly atmosphere and we all know the officers are there to protect our children. All of our districts schools are located on the same very large campus. There is a city police officer for every school and the ancillary buildings. That means we pay for 6 full-time and 2 part-time city police officers. We have been doing this since before my oldest started school there in 1996. It does mean we have had to increase the number of officers. The kids all seem to love the officers and the officers definitely love them! I say we pay because we pay a very high mil rate on our property taxes, personal and real estate to pay for all the extras that make our school district the wonderful place it is. It is ranked the number one school in our state and has been for a long time before my oldest started kindergarten in 1996. It now had 3 & 4 year old preschool. My daughter started 3yr old preschool the same year as my older son started his senior year. He loved his school. My younger so who passed away when he was 10 loved his school; and now my 8yr old daughter loves her school and has loved it since she started at 3. Our officers would have never arrested that mother! All that was needed was a reminder to sign in that should have happened before she was ever buzzed in. Since that didn't happen and was the schools fault, a reminder after the fact would suffice! Our officers have not arrested a single parent since we started in 1996. The officer didn't even arrest my ex-husband when he threw a fit at not being allowed to check out our son's when he showed up out of the blue. I had full custody and he had become very unstable for a while after our divorce. So he was not legally allowed to check out of pick up the children. The officer diffused the situation and just escorted him out of the building and stayed out there until he was off campus. I found out later when I went to pick the children up and 2 of the officers were standing with my children. One told me out of earshot of the boys while the other strapped them into the booster seat. They had tried to call, but I could not be reached in surgery. The answer would have been no. State supervised visitation only at that time. Going that far was not of my doing. The judge felt it was necessary for the children's safety. Arresting this mother is beyond any reasonable thinking! Imagine what that did to her Asberger's autistic son when he was already distressed? What is wrong with people? Use your common sense for God's sake!!!
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    @Pr0-Lif3
    At our school buildings there is an entry way that has a window you sign in at before they buzz you in to the actual hallway of the school. You can not get past the entry way, foyer, or atrium depending on which school building you are wanting to enter. All of our schools and other buildings like the fine arts building and the athletic complex with pool building are on the same large campus; even the football stadium and associated buildings. We still have plenty of land to keep building as our school grows larger all the time. But you cannot get past that front window where you sign in to get into one of the main school buildings without first getting buzzed in.
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    this also has nothing to do with 'education reform' do you honestly believe that the schools systems are the only areas in which thinking is actively discouraged?

    ve haff our ordahs... unt ve must follow our ordahs at all times.
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    @dances-weebles Could you elaborate more on your point, please? I'm having difficulty understanding.

    Although, obviously, I do understand the German reference.
  • #118
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    @Threeper301 the point is that, today, as a society we are discouraged from thinking for ourselves in almost every venue and field of endeavour. that includes hospitals, factories, driving your car, walking down the street, shopping, doing your banking (you have to stand between the lines or you won't get served, you know)... and god forbid that you want to smoke.
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    @dances-weebles Okay, I understand now. Thank you.

    I hear ya; it's a goddamn Greek Tragedy. What the hell happened to the human race? We've bred out our very survival instinct, it sometimes seems.
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    @MBernard so... no education at all is better than being taught by educated, knowledgeable, dedicated teachers. and no, the school systems are NOT controlled by corporations.
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    i was tempted to click on 'i don't know enough to say' because none of us have all the facts. on the surface, however, it seems that the good folks at the school should take a chill pill.
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