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  • #51
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    I hope she wins too ... this crap has to stop before things get out of hand!

    She was well within her right to pull a firearm and turn things into an all-out-gun fight because these thugs didn't have the common sense to pour piss out of boot and just identify themselves in a sensible manner!
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    Shoulda ran the bastiches over.....power hungry monsters......this is out of control and the full implementation of what the second amendment actually means to safeguard us from tyrants like this is getting ever closer to be a reality.....who and when and where will it start......who? unsure.....when sooner than most people think.....where in one of these crazy police states.....that consider WE THE PEOPLE enemies.....
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  • #54
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    ... aren't we all but that seems to be all there hiring these days ... thugs!

    The days of having respectable, intelligent law enforcement officers is long gone. Sure, there's a few good ones but there sure are a lot of bad apples in the bunch.
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    @JustTheFacts "The days of having respectable, intelligent law enforcement officers is long gone."
    Just curious, when did those days ever exist? Police corruption and abuse of power is nothing new in the least. It goes back as far as the history books do. No idea what world and time you're referring to at all. The only difference is today you have modern media to get the story out to millions quickly.
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    @TRex84 Trust me ... it wasn't always as bad as it is now.

    They use to require a college degree in something other than criminal justice (proof of actual intelligences) before they dropped all that.

    Sure, there's always been police corruption to some degree (some places worse than others)... but it seems to be an epidemic now days and only getting worse.

    I guess it's in part to the fact that there's no accountability anymore ... no one is held responsible for their actions and mistakes.
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    40 million seems a bit excessive, but this woman deserves compensation. The police are out of control. Protect and Serve.... you know after they point a gun at you and then wrongfully imprison you.
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    @Ironicguy

    Agree that $40 million is a bit much but a million or two to make it matter because this kind of thing is becoming way to common anymore.
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    @BravoJuliet ACTUALLY, suing for excessive amounts is a common lawsuit maneuver . What they are probably aiming for is much less, but the 40 million is to make a statement and a sure way to secure a percent of it.
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    @sevenSecrets number one, who voted me down? if you think im wrong just say it....just being informative. Number 2, that wasnt just to you but both.
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    The problem with suing... The idiot "cops" will not pay, the taxpayers will. At the very least they should let every taxpayer affected give each one of these asshats a punch to the face, should she win.
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    Better punishment would be prison time ... and inform the inmates that these fools were cops .... oh what funny that would be to watch ... lol ... justice served without robbing the taxpayer to do it!
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    That's true, but if the city has to pay out because of the cops stupidity, they might at least get a verbal reprimand for being caught. These days that's about all we can hope for.
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    Good. Perhaps the taxpayers will vote in responsible and sensible people that would change the training for cops that do this and hiring procedures as well.....
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    @Knightkore That never seems to happen ... for some reason the good cops that have ethics and intelligences never get voted in ... it's always the biggest piece of shit that's on the ballot that wins the election.

    I'm not sure why but people apparently like or are happy with the way things are because nothing ever seems to change ... if anything ... it only gets worse.
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    What the hell is an alcoholic beverage control officer? Were/Are they sworn police officers? What was the S O P for their assignment? Who were the nit wits in charge of these clowns and why the hell were they left to roam the campus without adult supervision? Is this what causes the fleecing of tax dollars?
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    @sevenSecrets - Being approached as she was, there was no 'just cause' for buying alcoholic beverages unless underage. At that point in time she was not driving (DUI), next charge would be Public Intoxicated or Open Container. None of which warrant approach to that extent unless justified by reasonable suspicion. visible actions or opening the beer/water. The thing was fouled up to begin with.
    And quite frankly, no reasonable suspicion was present in the topic piece.
    Judgement for the defendant - about 3 mil.
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    @Rocker If I were her ... I settle on no cash at all just to see this thugs carted off to jail where they actually beyond in the first place. You know what happens to cops in prison ... lol ... justice would be served several times over =)
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    She deserves to win.

    The amount will probably get reduced but then that's a good reason to start so high. Thanks for reporting on this Politix. I'd forgotten about this case and I'm glad to see she's going after these those responsible.

    This kind of police state tactic is far too common. We've had the internet and stories like this going viral for years, but not at this pace. So either it's a case of more of these types of thing going viral lately or it's a case of more of these types of things happening period.

    And considering the number of trigger-happy cops lately she's lucky that they didn't open fire after she started the car.

    Plus... I'd be very interested in knowing what "corrective action" has been taken because in New Mexico they want to teach their officers to use deadly force more often.
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    Getting shot over water or beer is going way beyond their job description. No wonder very few have any respect from the public anymore. Maybe there wasn't enough light to see if it was water.
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    @Locutus -- So what if it was dark. Arresting a scared teenager after it's obvious that they were mistaken about the water is ridiculous. The aggressive manner in which the plain-clothes-police acted right out of the gate, instead of calmly approaching is what caused her to freak out in the first place.
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    I was being sarcastic. I meant no disrespect for the old man that got shot in his garage because of bad lighting according to the report.
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    @Locutus -- I hadn't heard about that one. That's why it went over my head. I thought you were being sarcastic and offering up a lame excuse that these cops either gave or might've given as to why they thought the water was beer. Do you have a link the story about the guy in the garage? It sounds similar to the guy who got shot for getting his cane out of the car that I've heard about recently.
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    I think it may have been in Taxes. The man was around 70 years old, they went to the wrong address and could not see very well because of the lighting. I think it may have been about 2 am or so. Maybe 7 months to a year or so ago. Whenever it happened, this crap is happening too much anymore....
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    $40million is a bit high, but I do hope she wins her lawsuit. Flying glass from breaking her window at the head and neck region could have killed her! Law enforcement should always identify themselves with badges out! Especially when not in uniform. I would have reacted the same as she did. What that looked like was a group of criminals going after them. She was very frightened and rightfully so. Here were these plain clothes people yelling with a gun drawn and a person on top of her hood and another breaking out her window all without having identified themselves and showing no badges yet! That would look like a dangerous group of criminals to any person and they would fear for their lives, not law enforcement officers going after a person that had done nothing wrong. She had been terrorized, then humiliated by being arrested on trumped up charges and further humiliated at what they do to a person that is taken to jail after being arrested! They strip search, do cavity searches and treat those charged with trying to harm officers especially bad! She deserves to win!
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    Those were not officers. They are children playing cops and making life hard on law abiding citizens. Too much of this kind of crap goes on too often and nothing is done to the "above the law" criminals that are supposed to protect us. Looks like we need protection from them. It will only get worse them more we allow this foolishness to continue..
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    @Locutus
    Actually, the ABC enforcement officers ARE swore officers, with all powers/responsibilities accordingly. They are the Virginia officers who are to enforce alcohol beverage laws in the Commonwealth. That also includes sales by businesses to ANYONE under 21 years old. It also includes undercover stings to see if businesses sell to underage buyers. If they do, the business's liquor license can and most likely will be pulled. They also regulate and enforce laws regarding tobacco sales in the state.

    What these particular officers did was totally stupid. But the Commonwealth's attorney is also at fault because they decided to press charges and should NOT have. The CA's office should have dropped it when they found out. Because of the lack of common sense on both sides there, this blew up in their face.
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    @Locutus
    Ah, that shows how much you do NOT know about the situation nor the state officers involved.

    I would HIGHLY suggest doing your homework/research before opening your mouth and proving how much a fool you REALLY are.

    The situation is unfortunate, but also caused by "rookieitis" + very bad judgment on the part of ALL concerned. It does NOT concern "relatives on the payroll" as there were none in the first place nor does it come into play.

    Do your homework before proving to be the fool.
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    I hope she wins. I'm so sick of the justice dept training cops to be revenue thugs. No wonder they're afraid of gun owners. We're just one bullet away from a revolution.
  • #75
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    The best amount for her to win in court is the combined annual salaries of those agents, the person who hired them, the person who hired that hiring person, and the person who hired that one. And that money should come from them.
  • #267
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    Yeah these lawsuits shouldn't be paid by the taxpayers. They should be paid out of the salaries and pensions of the officers involved first then the pension funds of all the officers.

    Perhaps if officers were held personally and financially accountable they would behave better and if their fellow officers could have pension funds lost they might police their own a little better.
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    She should sue for more. Even if she had been buying beer, there was no need for the ABC undercover police to put her life at risk by drawing guns.
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    @Woody20164 If I was a teenaged girl and 6 men in plain clothes and masks rushed my car with drawn guns before identifying themselves, I'd run over them too. You do recall that several college girls have been kidnapped in just such a fashion in this town over the last decade or so?
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    @Tacitus01 You obviously didn't read the story as told by other sources. The officers did not approach her care with weapons drawn, they identified themselves, and only used physical force after she drove over them and fled the store and refused to put her window down. And what masks? Did you make that up yourself?
  • #220
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    @Woody20164 I lived near there and the local news paper interviewed people present, and the the police report had those details. Do you really think two women like them would try to kill cops after they knew they were cops? If she'd done anything wrong, why were the charges dropped and the arrest expunged? How does a cop have a gun drawn while jumping on the hood of a moving car? Is he a movie cop who can draw a gun while in mid air and hanging on with both hands or something? He had it in his hand as he approached and kept it as he jumped on, is the simple answer.
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    @Tacitus01 Maybe you should join Politix, because you sensationalize as much as they. Their outrageous headline declares they were "attacked for buying water". Hardly a fair representation of the facts.

    Your assertion that I suggest they "tried to kill" the agents is equally nutty. Additionally, if you pick up a paper any day, you'll read about heinous crimes by people who were previously thought to be "like" those girls. I don't know them, I doubt you do, but we always hear, "He was a quiet man, we never suspected".

    When a driver backs over you, you tend to get a little defensive.

    You sound predisposed to hate law enforcement, so you will not look at this objectively or fairly. I just hope the jury is a little more neutral.
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    There is no excuse for what these Alcoholic Beverage Control agents did (never even heard of that one before)...but...40 million...really....When I was young I use to get harass for no good reason, by cops all the time...Wow...I guess ...I should have sued
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    When we were young and wanted to have fun, we stayed away from the problems. There were a few high horse cops but didn't last too long in our town. They were either fired or shipped off to another town for them to deal with. I think it would have been better to rid system the problems.
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    ABC?? If you've never heard of them, well they are basically Revenuers. There main purpose was basically to punish and stop moonshine production and sales. These days they have expanded there duties ( because large scale Booze making is in decline) in order to keep there positions. Total BS agency from the beginning.
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    Excellent! I remember this incident, I hope she wins big.

    P.S. WTH is a beverage control agent? Aren't there more important things for law enforcement to do? Or are these political appointees and not real cops?
  • #3
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    I think we can thank the progressives, and the rural Protestants for pushing so hard for prohibition back in the early 1900s as I believe this is a byproduct of the prohibition era.
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    @Libertyiskey wtf. progressive puritans? Progressive temperates? Went way out of the way to make this a partisan slant dont ya think? I thought one: progressives didnt rally under a religious banner like MANY prohibitionists did, two: its a common fact progressives want stuff legalized.
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    @sevenSecrets
    Do a search for "Progressives + Prohibition." At the time Prohibition was the Obamacare of the Progressives.
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    I did out of curiosity. i found little...its sad when people bend 100 years of history to adhere to their shallow partisan animosity.
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    Freedom is what you have when you defend it.

    She's doing the right thing, it's the conventional 'law and order' people who will put up with this sort of bad behavior.
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    @Cincinnatus All I'm trying to get across is that I have a hard time calling ourselves a "free" country when we have damn beverage officers.
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    @Libertyiskey

    Beer cops are not the problem, the attitude of law enforcement in general is the problem.

    If that had happened in Florida, she would have likely been killed, and the whole thing whitewashed as the cops described how a car is a deadly weapon, requiring deadly force in response.
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    @Cincinnatus I would disagree and say both beer cops and over zealous cops are a problem. Arrest people for drunk driving we don't need special police for that. I'd concede though that the over zealousness and attitude of law enforcement would be the bigger more pressing problem though.
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    To say I hope she wins is not correct. I hope things are changed so that this doesn't happen in the future. If she receives 40mil it's just the local tax payers and town that suffer. Govt. agencies are never punished properly. It is always the general that get the short stick. In my opinion even if they were buying weed or any other drug this is a way over the top violent response.
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