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  • #43
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    @AceLuby This is his signature plan! He's got bragging rights yet refuses to answer one single question??? If this is working out so well and the numbers add up, why not give the people (we're paying for it) the breakdown on the numbers? We have a right to know. But then again, we had a right to oppose this law and didn't get to exercise that right. And we should have had the right to opt out of it, but that won't happen either. It IS terrible. How many people have insurance, that's paid for, that will actually work, that's affordable without extremely high deductibles that must be met before medical services can be rendered??? CRICKETS...
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    @AceLuby We were TOLD by Mr. Obama that 40 to 50 MILLION were uninsured in America, that was the reason behind this mess. Now, 6 million have lost coverage they liked and (supposedly 7 million have signed up) and how many of them had coverage they liked before Obamacare? How many are now on the expanded (paid for by our taxes) Medicaid? How many are sick and older? How many are subsidized? So, by all I can see, this article included, a handful, a small handful at that, of those who did not have insurance before are now covered. That could have been taken care of without destroying the health care we already had. Our deductible doubled, so much for any savings. And we had perfectly acceptable healthcare before - now, because we are healthy, we get to spend a whole lot more out of pocket before we get any insurance benefits, well, unless we get hit by a bus, on Tuesday between the hours of 3 PM and 3:05 PM. Did I neglect to thank Mr. O for this wonderful new arrangement?
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    @Tralee
    "We were TOLD by Mr. Obama that 40 to 50 MILLION were uninsured in America"
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    Wait a minute....I thought it was 20 million uninsured??????????

    Is it me or do they keep changing the numbers?????????
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    that's it.....keep moving the bar.....it is working, already reduced uninsured by 42% in Kentucky for example, and you just hate that don't you.
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    @MolonLabe Right........that is exactly why we needed Obamacare......under the old non-system American taxpayers paid more in taxes towards health care than any other modern country's taxpayers, and we still had millions uninsured and all the health problems and bankruptcies and other economic fallout of that.

    Obamacare is designed to cover way more people at a lower overall cost to taxpayers. And it is working. Single payer would have been better and cheaper, but enough people wanted a market based system that Obama had no choice but to do it this way.......and it is way better than the old non-system.

    So what is your point?
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    Yes single payer would have been better, but the whining and shrieking from the right has been deafening with this market based solution.....imagine the shrill temper tantrums if democrats had actually passed a single payer system.

    As far as the percentage that are on the Medicaid expansion.....who cares? Either way they are insured now, and that is cheaper for the taxpayers then them being uninsured.
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    @NolanVoyd The president of the United States, Barry. You know the name he went by for 20+ years. The subject is Obamacare, so his name does have something to do with the subject.
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    Sounds like you're having a bad day Mark. Are you having mental issues?. I hear that's covered under Obama care . Maybe you should sign up .
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    It is working.....these things always need to be adjusted as they get rolled out.....Bush's prescription drug plan did......so what? It is working like it is supposed to. What is a new low? Poor people getting to go to the doctor? Is that a new low?

    Did you know that in Kentucky alone this has reduced the percentage of the uninsured by 42% already?
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    @NolanVoyd

    Sadly, my father wasn't able to get signed up on time before his untimely death. Now I'm being burdened with the massive medical bills from the emergency room visit.
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    Numbers are irrelevant when sign-up is required. Number of people signed up doesn't mean people can afford the insurance they have been forced to purchase, nor does it mean that vast increases in deductibles and co-pays aren't creating great hardship for everyone. Numbers don't equate to keeping your doctor, or keeping a drug that was working. To dwell exclusively on the numbers ignores real suffering that this law created.
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    It hard to imagine that there are people( with voting rights) that can't grasp your true statement!
    Basically this law just made @32 million outlaws out of the 40 million that didn't have insurance, only 7 million obeyed the law forced on them.
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    @Ashstop According to the figures I have seen, less than one third of the "7" million new sign-ups were without insurance before. The other two thirds are people whose previous insurance was cancelled due to Obamacare's new rules. They are not people who wanted to sign up voluntarily.That "43 million" who were supposedly without insurance before was always a lie used as an excuse to force this mess on the American people in the first place.
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    Dear Mr. Taylor,

    Partisan much? Seriously, you seem to be all over the place here, but allow me to point out just two of the many wrong turns in your piece.

    1. "... that means the balance of this 7 million is mostly comprised of people who had health insurance, were presumably happy with their health insurance, but had to give up their insurance because of Obamacare.-- No, that means that folks who had coverage that didn't meet the basic standards set forth in the ACA now have better coverage, many at a lower cost.

    2. "In fact, we know that roughly 5.9 million Americans were knocked off their health care by Obamacare. So these people had no choice but to re-sign-up through Obamacare, receive less health care, for a larger monthly premium and annual deductible." -- Do you have real, unbiased statistics proving that these 5.9 million Americans are now getting less care? And all of them are paying more for it? That's two incorrect statements in one, unless you can back that up with more than partisan rhetoric.
  • #52
    Managing partner of U.S. Government Relations Intl.
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    I am partisan. So is President Obama. There is no mystery there.

    To your two points: Prior to Obamacare, those who were insured had policies that they decided fit their lifestyle and budget. After Obamacare, the people lost their policies and were told that they would have to get a policy written, approved, and sanctioned by a handful of Democratic Party members on Capitol Hill. No thank you.

    For the most part, these people now do not have better coverage, are paying for coverage that they will never need, and their new policies are more expensive both in monthly premiums (double the cost) and deductibility (triple the cost)

    Let’s face it, the three words affordable, care, and act have little to do with Obamacare.

    As the president enjoys saying on an ever increasing basis... the debate is over on Obamacare being less expensive for people.

    Obamacare will increase underlying premiums by 41 percent. The steepest hikes will be imposed on the healthy and the young. This is now considered a universal truth agreed on by even the most ardent Obama supporters. It’s a settled point.

    As for the 5.9 people figure, there are differing figures, but they are all higher, none lower. Most agree the figure is closer to 10 million people who lost their insurance due to Obamacare. So as not to make that a focal point of the op-ed, I used the lower number.
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    #1 - And who appointed Obama God who could declare that what so many felt was perfectly adequate for their needs was suddenly substandard? We've been over this. I have no need for pediatric care, maternity care, pap smears, birth control of any type and so forth. I have no need for drug addiction coverage and all the other expensive goodies Mr. O deemed so necessary. It's a bit arrogant for YOU or anyone to decide that coverage I FIND TO BE EXACTLY WHAT I WANT and suits my needs, is substandard. That DNC talking point you wrote (and yes, it IS a DNC talking point and quite arrogant to boot!) is just that, an excuse.

    #2 - Do YOU have any stats. to disprove it? No, and we all know why, Mr. Obama has been fudging the numbers, evading giving any clear count, saying they didn't have that information until MIRACLE ON MIRACLE!!!!!! within 48 hours that unknowable and impossible to get number was found, just in time to meet the dead line.

    Really, it is any wonder that no one, other than the blind puppets, really believes for one second that any of the numbers he gave us are even close to reality? Will you be the only one to be surprised when those glorious figures are quietly downgraded in a week or so?
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    @JeffreyLTaylor
    "As for the 5.9 people figure, there are differing figures, but they are all higher, none lower. Most agree the figure is closer to 10 million people who lost their insurance due to Obamacare."
    Bullcrap. You're just a liar, and we all know it.
  • #85
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    @Cal Thanks for the uplifting dialogue, but I'll stick with my original post. I'm certainly open to being persuaded on my point, and I hope others who are posting on this op-ed will give it a serious try, but if they use the words 'bullcrap' and 'liar' in their argument, then I'm betting the post wont persuade me. But I thank you for your comment and I do wish you well.
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    @JeffreyLTaylor
    And how was insurance ever going to be cheaper if we picked up and subsidized folks who couldn't afford it?........I am always surprised that many folks thought this would initially save money or be cheaper..........after 6 years of preparing for it.
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  • #142
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    It is all part of a greater plan:
    1. Healthcare: Control healthcare and you control the people.

    2. Poverty: Increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

    3. Debt: Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes and this will produce more poverty.

    4. Gun Control: Remove the ability for people to defend themselves from the government. That way you are able to create a police state.

    5. Welfare: Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)

    6. Education: Take control of what people read and listen to take control of what children learn in school.

    7. Religion: Remove the belief in God from the government and schools.

    8. Class Warfare: Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
  • #114
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    Refuses to take questions,....doesn't have any answers to question such as how many were uninsured.... Only quotes we have signed up 7 million.... Knows no other facts....Sounds like a success to me.... Gets your boots folks it's getting deep!
  • #66
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    The pin head sees failure as victory,No real surprise.Had the fool come out with a verifiable number that 7 million had enrolled and paid the premium that would be a start.315 million people and he brags of 7 million 80% of those that lost coverage due to the scam as a great thing?WTF no wonder he failed even as a community organizer.
  • #117
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    Stalin used to do the same. He would central plan something, and it would inevitably fail. Then he'd just announce how "successful" it was. All leftist pas do the same. Look at Russia in the 60's. Their people living in huts, barely surviving, and Khrushchev would come over here and preach to Kennedy how much better the communist system was. Lmao. No matter how big the failure, a leftist will always claim success.
  • #60
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    First the Democrats lie to the people about Obamacare to get it passed, keeping your insurance if you want, lower premiums, etc. etc. Then after they are caught in the lie, do they admit the lie & ask forgiveness? Of course not, those words are not in the Socialist's vocabulary. They spin it again, lie to us again & the lies keep building up. They keep spinning the numbers, desperately trying to keep control of the Senate so they can go on lying to the people, mandating intrusive laws furthering their ideology. If you let them get away with these lies, you are an unbelievable indoctrinated person.
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    Rather than pat himself so heartily on his back and release all his pent up anger at the Republicans and the few press who reported all the problems, delays and lies about this mess, I would have like to see a bit more of a subdued celebration, a whole lot more FACTS - real ones and perhaps see Mr. Obama display this sort of anger toward his and our real enemies. Putin, Syria, the Middle East, Iran and so forth. But, as usual, Mr. Thin Skinned is really pissed at US - we who questioned the plan, the numbers and kept asking how it could be so messed up. And, boy oh boy, did that come through clear as a bell, one of the few, the VERY few, transparent parts of his past 5 years.
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    A victory lap without a victory. When the government hides information from the public, Benghazi, IRS, Fast & Furious, Deportation Numbers and of course all of the information concerning Obamacare you know the news isn't good. I wonder just how long they will be able to hide the bad news from the public. The one title that Obama has truly earned is Liar in Chief and I suspect that title will never go away.
  • #82
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    Still peddling the bizarre conspiracy theory that deportation numbers are being "hidden"? And the nonsense claims that Benghazi and the IRS are scandals?
  • #27
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    "Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody:'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.'" - George Carlin
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    I know a few folks here love George Carlin, but I never liked that man. Having said that, you're right about the slogan. This ain't looking good people!
  • #204
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    And a well deserved victory lap it is!
    Mission accomplished!
    His name will be remembered for this accomplishment for many generations to come!
    Unlike what's his name who he replaced!
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