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  • #150
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    Sorry, Mary. There is nothing "beautiful" about this propaganda. There is no "gay rights revolution." There is just propaganda, hysteria and a mob mentality by the media to push an agenda on the rest of us while gleefully mocking others for their moral, religious, cultural, sociological and other views that don't "bend over" to the whims and demands of the gay Left.

    I would be the first person to defend a gay man or woman from being physically or even verbally attacked. However, it is ridiculous to demonize, vilify or ridicule those of us who disagree with the push for the gender change of the "marriage" civil contract to accommodate homosexuals (although I think that any consenting adults should be provided equal legal protections, rights and privileges but under a different, gender-specific contract with a name that identifies it as such) and the legal consequences that will result.

    "Tolerance" is a two-way street. Unfortunately, Liberals want to recklessly drive this nation down the bumpy and poorly constructed one-way street that they built in haste and then call it "tolerance."

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    "Tolerance" is a two-way street." I wish more people realized that; we'd all be a lot happier with a more "live and let live" attitude.
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    Nabisco is a big company and if it were to think that caving in to homophobes like A&E did with Dork Dynasty would be the profitable thing to do it would have pulled back. Obviously Nabisco sees equal right for gays as a position that the company will be more profitable by supporting vocally than in opposing it or trying to remain neutral on the issue.

    Disclosure: PNWest is a big fan of Oreo cookies which are made by Nabisco but this doesn't not figure in to my opinion in supporting equal rights for all people.
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    It is well past the time that government had any control over marriage. I have wanted to go back to traditional marriage for decades, but it is against the law. Tradition means that which has been practiced by most for the longest period of time. That is simple. Homo Sapiens (Humans) have been on the planet for almost 200,000 years. Until less than 2000 years ago polygamy was the normal standard. It was practiced near universally. Then in the last 2000 years what was then a small cult changed the rules. When that cult became the Catholic Church and became the major power in Europe its definition of marriage as monogamous became the law in most of the world. But even today at least a third of the world still practices polygamy.
    Get government completely out of the business of marriage. Its only legitimate interest is who are the parents of a child and are legally responsible for that child until the age of majority. It has no legitimate interest in who marries who or how many. As far as I am concerned 5 women and three men could all be married to each other in one family. The only objections I have heard or read are almost always based on religious beliefs. Those that hold those religious beliefs should practice them as they choose. The definitely should not imp0se their religious views on others.
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    Do you know how many religious conservatives, heads you just blew up. You just took out the whole Mike Huckabee primary voting block.
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    @RONPAULFAN As a libertarian my only real interest is what is reasonable for the government to do. Regulating marriage in any way is not in my opinion. I cannot even think of a reason other than knowing who are legally responsible for children and that does not result in a need for a marriage license or laws limiting marriage.
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    @fraps probably because you do not know your true identity as a America. We were founded as Christian nation under the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. A marriage as commended by our God consist of one male and one female. This is directly the reason for the law.
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    @Tooblue a lot better then the obama block who undoubtedly should feel used lied to and abused a real happy place to be congratulations
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  • #100
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    As a wise man once said, "thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself". Your religion is your religion. You can live your life as you choose. Your religion should have no say on my life.

    Oh and sanctity of marriage???? Puhlease. If you wanted to sanctity of marriage, you would be lobbying for no divorce to be permitted.

    Marriage is no longer simply a religious ceremony. It is a civil right, not a religious one. While you can get married in church, no state or federal entity will recognize that ceremony unless a license is purchased from the state and promptly filed with the state. Marriage is regulated, taxed, and legislated by the government. All of these same arguments against gays were also used against blacks. They were stupid then and they are stupid now.
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    Who's arguing against gays? Gay marriage, maybe.

    Flaunting your "gayness" as a "right" in the face of average everyday folks bothers them. They also have the right to speak up, just like the gays do.

    I know I don't want my young kids asking me "why are those two women kissing and holding hands?" I shouldn't have to explain what others do to confuse them.
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    One Million Moms gets a lot more attention from the media than they deserve. They have less than 2,700 followers on Twitter which is probably more than their entire membership when you factor in those who follow them just to monitor them. One Million Moms is more like a couple of thousand right-wing extremists.
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    I'm for one million moms, even though I do not get involved. Also I'm not a twitter. I do know what the Bible says, and that's enough for ME! I'm so glad I found out about this company, will not purchase again, and email my vast amount of friends who feel the same way. This almost made me puke!!
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    Well, with the addition of her "vast amount" of friends, I'd say they now only need 997,297 more members to reach their membership goal.

    Badeye63 has the right to stop purchasing their products and to try to convince her friends to do the same. But my guess is that their sales are up after this campaign. I almost cried when I saw the overwhelming number of positive responses to it - this one was VERY creative and implies turning hate into love. What a nice message to send.

    The opposition's message? Not so nice. But, like the Pope, they'll come around eventually. They all just need to be shown a little extra love!
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    The only problem I see with this entire mess is that Honey Maid is a graham cracker company and politics is not a part of their business. They should leave politics to politicians and concentrate on selling graham crackers.
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    Like the commercial, but I've been staying away from frankenfood and the fructose corn syrup crap that Nabisco and the others put out.
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    I came out of the closet (so to speak) when I was 13, that was in 1957.. it never even crossed my mind in all these years that not only was marriage something that I couldn't dream about,, but kids?? WHOA. In those early years it was dangerous just to walk the streets as a gay child. You didn't have to be a screamer,, just a word from someone and it was like a scarlet letter... now, here I am almost 70, as proud as any man could be, and tears in my eyes for all I had to go through and I look at this generation and say THANK YOU. Thanks to all those gay men who fought at Stonewall.. I will buy ANYTHING this company makes!!!!!!!!!! I saw the commercial and smiled DEEP,DEEP in my heart. And I'm from a deep-water Baptist upbringing , who at 14 felt I had to leave my God, because my church could not accept the commandment "Love ye as I have l loved ye..." And now I am comforted.
    "Eat those cookies, all you Bible thumpers"
    PROUDLY
    E. Daniel O'Sullivan
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    You have provided a good response and historical context. I'm almost your age, and I know of what you speak, although thankfully, my parents were not ultra religious, but they were truly Christian, and their acceptance of me when I brought home my boyfriend was tremendous.
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    @rondonaghe
    hah, well, my mother was such a Christian she loved all that I loved,, just not the person who loved them
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    To each their own,, but it was you who could not accept God`s commandment that homosexuality is an abomination and sin. Some 13 year olds also do drugs, but at 13 your introduction was from an adult abuser and that is sad. So, at 13 were you attracted to younger children or adults.
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    @rondonaghe The irony is that most gays do not accept their parents unless they submit to their beliefs. Gays are the most intolerant and abused victims on the planet, how sad.
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  • #273
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    Sieg und Heil my friends sieg und heil. Tolerance is now a one way street, if you go against the traffic you will be run over. What happened to those who used to have courage of conviction? They gave it up for the approval of this world and damned their conscience in the process.
    The fool says in his heart, there is no God.
  • #498
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    As Forest Gump says, "stupid is as stupid does" and Ron Brown, "you just can't fix stupid." This world has been full of "fools" now they are encouraged to "come out" and to be "loud and proud!"
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    It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. Patriotic Americans support equal rights for all citizens.
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    @Zazziness Gays DO have all the same rights as everyone else. They want "special rights" which really aren't rights but privileges because they chose to lose some of them by being gay. They know the rules going in.
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    @DontBlameMe2 No, they don't want special rights. They want exactly the same rights you have -- the right to marry another consenting adult with whom they are in love being one of them.
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    @Zazziness They can as long as the other person is of the opposite sex. Anything other than that is a special law. Thick headed much?
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    @drpeeper Ridiculous. Diversity is what you want to squelch. If you didn't, you would be supporting equal rights for all citizens.
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    @drpeeper: I have no problems or objections for people using free market tactics to influence business decisions. On the other hand, I have a problem when people turn to government, federal or local, to force their will on others.

    Though I don't side with 'one million mom', I support Nabisco's choice to be inclusive of different family make ups, and I support 'one millions moms' use of boycotts.
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    @Zazziness Bull.....so if two loving murderers wanted to adopt that would be fine? Oh wait a minute progressive liberals push mothers into murdering unborn all the time.....

    Enough of this third world, demonically inspired moral relativism.....America was founding on truth not this kind moral flacidity.....
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  • #326
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    What is beautiful is a married woman and man who love one another raising children to adulthood and remaining married until the death of a spouse. A man and a man raising a child or a woman with a woman raising a child is not a family and it is a false conception of love.
  • #515
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    Your so right! How sad. My daughter is in this lifestyle, and she said she just likes to have sex with women. And then she'll get out of it for a while and go to men! I love her, but don't understand. Wish someone could fill me in.
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    I know a heterosexual female dating an effeminate bisexual male. It is like she is dating a girl. These kids are taught anything goes, so they feel they should not limit themselves.
  • #155
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    What's really sad is all this fighting and bullying by about 2% of the population so they can "be accepted" as normal by the rest of the population. And the more you beat us up the less accepted you are. And the fact that you keep shouting so loudly about your rights and that you're like everybody else doesn't obscure the fact that you're not and that you're really just a tiny percentage of the population, even though the press doesn't do its job.

    And let's be honest, when a mom and dad are expecting a baby, and they're dreaming about what their child will grow up to be, or what that child might be like, they might say he or she might " have your eyes, or your sense of humor, or maybe he'll be athletic, or maybe she'll be really smart"... but no one ever says "maybe my child will be gay." No one ever dreams of that. It's always a shock. And it's always sad. And that should tell you something.
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    Actually, what's really sad, GIGI, is the amount of unnecessary animosity and simple ignorance directed toward LGBT people for no reason. Do you think perhaps all the hate and idiotic behavior directed toward them may have built up within their community over decades of abuse, and that perhaps many have decided enough is enough and it's time to stand up for their rights?

    And of course, if you carry around a hostile attitude, many LGBTs are going to be more cautious around you, so you may not be as aware of how many are around you as those who are a bit more open about acceptance. As I noted in another post, I've been around a lot of LGBTs over the years, and especially in metro areas, there are a lot more than someone like you may realize.

    But what does population percentages have to do with anything? It's simply a matter of treating someone different than you with respect, and allowing them to live life with the same rights and privileges that you have, but don't want them to also have. Do you mock other cultures different from ours? Do you make fun of overweight people? Do you look down on people who have religious beliefs different from yours? If so, you now know exactly what the problem is, where it lies, and how to find a key to the problem that baffles you so much --if you really want one.

    Ron
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    @RonH Yes, WE are the hostile one's, we have been shoving our agenda down your throat, NO wait, that is you and your clan who has been doing that. Oops, sorry.
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    @RonH I notice that you said "animosity for no reason." You don't know me so please don't apply your argument to me. My answer was directed to what I see as a very in-your-face militant approach toward the rest of us. And it's an attitude that brings sexual identity into everything. You may not believe this, but I actually don't think about sex all day. I talk to people, discuss work, books, cultural events, etc. and don't think about sex or people's sex lives -- until the subject of gay people comes up, because they demand that we think about them in sexual terms. Frankly, I find that boring and a just a little too much information. I don't want to know about it from my straight friends. Why would I want to know about it from my gay friends, much less about it from gay strangers? Apart from being in poor taste it's just plain bad manners. That's kind of what I mean when I say if people want to be accepted, maybe they should start behaving like polite human beings.
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    Well, Gigi, if you can't give that little-bitty 2% of the population the normal respect that most decent people try to give to those who are different from them, things eventually come to a head.

    You see, it's a closed circle, Gigi. Tell people they're not normal, try to isolate them and keep them from living the simple normal lives they seek to have just like everyone else, try to impose your morality on lives that have nothing to do with you, and then one day, they'll finally get tired of the dehumanizing treatment they receive from people who say things like "the fact that you keep shouting so loudly about your rights and that you're like everybody else doesn't obscure the fact that you're not" (gotta twist that knife blade juuust a tiny little bit, huh, Gigi? Even if it doesn't really help matters a whole bunch...) and finally decide to speak up, then the oppressing side picks up the pace, then the other side gets a bit louder and picks things up a bit themselves, etc, etc, etc.

    It's just like the strife for racial equality, and it follows the exact same pattern that fight did a couple generations ago. People will only stand oppression for so long. Those who are highly vocal now will only be followed by others as time goes on.

    If you want to blame someone, blame the strategists on the right side of our political spectrum, who long ago decided things like religion and social controversy severs well to distract, and keep us all occupied with things other than watching what they're doing to this country. Fall for the "gays are weird, decadent, immoral, etc" line and realize you're acting right according to plan.

    Ron H
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    Exactly. With AIDS as a product of homosexuality and cancer as a product of cig smoking, which is worse.
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    Those are NOT cigarettes. If you watch the video, you''ll see that those are rolled up copies of negative comments.
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    @Just_True
    You do realize that, just like goneria, HI V/AIDS is a result of hetrosexuals having sex with animals!?
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    Do I have a right to express my real opinion on this, or will I be banned for disagreeing with the establishment view? I believe every child needs to grow up with both a mother and a father in the home, and that every child has the need to be protected from certain types of content and influences until they are grown and set in more traditional beliefs. That is my own personal opinion, and I respect other opinions, and I hope mine is respected too. Respect works both ways.
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    So wait a minute, I recall an article or two ago where one particular "side" of the political spectrum was complaining about the intolerance of what one group called intolerance by boycotting a company who hired a "anti" gay CEO. The side complaining of the intolerance and bullying of the group for boycotting is not sayings its intolerant and bullying by the 1millionmoms?!?! Instead they are saying its bullying and intolerant for someone to make a commercial backing their beliefs? I wish I could say it was funny, but its not, it's sad, you people are destroying this country. You are playing into what they want to happen. My side good your side bad, bahhhhhh.

    All of you who play into this two party system are making the world a worse place for all of us who see behind the curtain. There is no difference between the republicans and democrats, that's why are debt has been steadily going up under both parties. That's why the Patriot Act wasn't repealed when a democrat became president. In fact, it was a Republican president's idea that was bipartisan supported, and anyone who saw past the bullshit of that act was accused of terrorism. Now the biggest original supporters of the patriot act are against it when a democrat is in power. And the democrats who were the biggest group that had people protesting it did a 180 too and now support it.

    I wish I could be like y'all, ignorance must certainly be bliss.
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    I voted your comment, up, not that you care, but I do have a comment about your post whose philosophical underpinnings I agree with: go easy on our fundamentalist friends. It is not easy for some to come out of a narrow way of thinking that getting Christ's message all wrong has caused. I think most can get a clue in time, but calling them all ignorant only satisfies your own pique. I know because I have the same frustration.
    Cheers!
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    Its actually you expect change...Through the indoctrination of young people..changing the will of the people, Through the "Gay OK" liberal agenda.
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    @Vance1 Exactly. Somehow my generation needs to be corrected to not believe the gay agenda...

    But I think the End is nearing - one world government approaches!
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