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  • #15
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    Ok, I'm going to interject my 2 commonsense here. First, I am not "pro-abortion", I am pro freedom. Right there , anti-anything is on slippery slope. That being said... Back to common sense. I liken anti-abortion laws with anti-gun laws. They don't work and are meaningless. They do not solve the underlying problem. Also, there are much bigger problems than abortion. This guy makes sense.
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    I liken anti-abortion laws, anti-gun laws and anti-drugs laws. Those things belong to the kinds that augments, and in more dangerous conditions, once made illegal. If people want less abortion, less drugs in the streets and less guns everywhere, stop the non sensical prohibitions. Regulate and tax products case by case.
    It is almost sad that we have to applaud a republican for acting like a republican.
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    Doug Cox is what you get when you vote.................... Damn no he's not. I wish people like Doug Cox were what you get when you vote (R)
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    Knightkore: I can see from your responses that you are a core believer in the worst aspects of Christianity. You really must wake up and smell the coffee (that's the stuff that isn't mentioned in the Bible and therefore not permitted to Mennonites and Amish). Things have changed a little in the last few millennia and as such we have to acknowledge that there are already way too many Homo Sapiens polluting the Earth; and there are around an extra 1.2%, compounded and still rising, more every year. How long before World War III, the REAL Hunger Wars, breaks out? Quite possibly in my lifetime! We have raped the land, burnt down the rain forests, overfished and polluted the seas, irradiated the atmosphere, destroyed the ozone layer, so what's next? A couple of billion fewer people might alleviate some of this pressure on the planet's ecology.

    As a Roman Catholic I am required by the Pope to be anti abortion.(un)Fortunately I have a mind of my own and, having read the Bible from cover to cover, I can safely say that it is a pile of badly written propaganda. Hell; I'm even willing to accept that women can be people with actual thoughts in their pretty little heads ... ;p)' As far as the Bible is concerned (if you interpret it 'right') even male masturbation is no different to abortion although there is hardly any real reference to it in the scriptures!

    If that is the case, then women and girls have the RIGHT to control their own reproduction without interference from the government of the day, which is often 'guided' by the prejudices of a minority pressure group with its own agenda. OK; so at what point does a foetus become an individual human being? I leave that to the philosophers - you know, the ones that think that Schrodinger's Cat was an actual physical experiment! In the meantime are you happy to see desperate teenagers and women going to visit illegal and unsanitory back street abortionists, with all the health dangers they come with?
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    Their attitude that 'if it ain't mentioned in The Bible then it's not for them'. Although music and dancing are, but they tend to ignore those little facts. I haven't watched 'Breaking Amish', but I don't recall Moses resorting to pump action shotguns, so where do they get off using them? Assholes the lot of them!
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    There is no overpopulation, as a Christian you know the bible says go forth and be fruitful(not gay),mismanagement and greed cause hunger and shortages of food and resources,,, also murder is not a woman's right! If you have to kill it to stop its birth its alive!!
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    @MongoAPillager Actually, he told the Jews to go forth and be fruitful. He also mentioned they should wipe out any and every other person that gets in their way and that it's okay to do so. Bashing kids heads in on stones and all of that.
    Then some Romans came along and usurped the jewish religion because it was just easier than worshiping all those roman gods. Also, you get laid more often if you claim your buddy is the son of god.
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    As I have been hoping for, this is a small start and a baby step for a fresher, revitalized, sane GOP that speaks to an America with changing cultural mores and values.
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    @Knightkore
    You are just looking for an argument. Abortion laws don't reduce the # of abortions, in any significant way. They just criminalize an activity that will continue, regardless.
    As conservatives note, it is GOVERNMENT sticking its nose into the business of citizens, and women, in particular. The only way to reduce abortions is by championing sex-education, making birthcontrol and sterilization free and available to everyone. Like everything else in life, shaming, fingerpointing, condemning, and lecturing about abortion is..........completely ineffectual and pointless.
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    @Unfit2serve Murder laws don't reduce murder by much.....so I guess we should be allowed to murder as we see fit?

    Seriously.....dude.....
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    @Knightkore gun laws dont stop murders by guns much, i guess we should make them illegal using your logic. Doesnt make sense does it, nor do you half the time, but hopefully you get the point.
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    @Knightkore
    I invite you to think about your comment. Since when is someone's opinion that a law ought not be passed imposing their morals on anyone. The opposite is true. If everyone where free to abort or not, no one would be imposing their morals on anyone. Yes, the unborn child; yes, the woman's right to make the decision about her body. I am a man who does not support abortion as much as I support the right of women to be the ones to decide what is best with for themselves, their bodies and their fetuses.
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    @Knightkore No, they don't. Rights accrue at birth, not before. And no amendment granting rights to fetuses could overrule the ESTABLISHED right of a woman to make her own medical decisions.
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    @cpeter133 There IS no established right over another living human being imposing murder on another.....

    There IS no compromise when it comes to defending life.....NO COMPROMISE AT ALL.....
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    This proves that not all republicans are right wing crazies. My Mom , my wife and my daughter are all republicans and every one of them is pro choice. Colorado, including a majority of republicans, has soundly defeated "personhood" amendments twice in the past few years. Hooray for Dr. Cox.
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    @Knightkore @jerbear
    You all have a right to believe anything you want...but we are a nation of laws...and the laws are not with you...if you want to arbitrarily pick and choose wish laws you wish to follow...I say ....good luck with that one...
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    @Knightkore
    nothing is changing....abortion is legal because the supreme court found it to be constitutional...and only SCOTUS can overturn that decision...states can make any crazy laws they want but eventually they will be struck down by the Federal Courts...if they go against the original supreme court decision...I agree more states are passing laws that they know will be struck down...but it's a futile effort...and a waste of time and money
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    Having watched and been involved in abortion debates on this site for the past few years, I've come this conclusion, and it will serve believers and non-believers alike:

    Keep abortion legal the way RvW was written and let them have their abortions.

    If there is no God, then there won't be any consequences.

    If there is a God, then the woman and her doctor will have to answer to Him for what they did.

    But, it's their choice, and I say let them have it.
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    @Denizen_Kate It's just the logical to look at it this way. I think I'd make it into the Vulcan Sxience Academy, don't you?

    :)
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    There is a choice involved, and the responsibility ultimately falls to the woman who is with child. The government's only role is to set sideboards - to establish as a society when there are two lives involved and not one, and who speaks for the voiceless one. Two lives, where one life is dependent on the other for care and consideration and a voice.

    It is an end of life decision. A child deserves the same care and consideration you would give any adult were he or she on life support and dependent on you. Roe v. Wade established who makes the choice, and established viability as the sideboards before science let us see into the brains of developing babies at earlier and earlier ages of gestation.
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    Because this politician isn't a career politician. He was/is a doctor first, politician second. Maybe, that's what this country needs.......less career free loaders.
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    The only men that have a right to an opinion over a woman's body is the father and the doctor. Anyone else is an intrusion, especially if the premise is religion.

    My biggest problem with the pro-lifers is that they oppose contraceptives and would love to see welfare and food stamps cut. In my opinion, pro-life is actually pro-birth, and screw you after that.
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    um... even the father has to right to dictate to the woman whether or not she will have a baby.

    the problem that i have is that those who cry about being 'pro-life' are also 'pro-capital punisnment'
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    @dances-weebles do you also have a problem with those who cry about being pro-choice are typically anti-capital punishment. Yanno... murder the innocent human, save the convicted murderer human. It goes both ways...
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    @dances-weebles

    I didn't say dictate. I said opinion. Like it or not, Daddy did have some work in the process. He gets to have an opinion, but not necessarily the say in the matter.

    I perfectly agree with your second statement, though. But of course, that is why the concept of, "innocent child," is thrown in.
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    @dances-weebles so if the father wants the abortion and the women refuses should he be forced to pay child support?

    Also being pro-life and pro-capital punishment are not incompatible. Capitol punishment is a consequence for their actions while abortion punishes the unborn for the actions of the mother and father.
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    @TigerLandSC What about those people on death row who were convicted but later found innocent through the technology of better DNA testing that we now have? That is why I am against the death penalty because convicted people have been later found innocent. I also don't think it is a deterrent for most criminals and I believe spending life in prison is more punishment then being put to death.
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    I find myself in agreement with Dr. Cox on this. I used to be anti-abortion but come to realize that it can be necessary in many cases (sometimes crucial). As such there should be avenues where women can go if the need to terminate a pregnancy arises.

    After piquing my curiosity and taking a look at this bill, I would have voted against it too. It does go a bit far. Good on Dr. Cox for being pro-freedom. I come to realize that limited government should be on all aspects, to include the issue of abortion...
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    It is good to see at least one Republican standing up for women's rights. It is ridiculous how many state are passing laws to restrict or ban abortion. There are much more pressing issues to worry about and they are wasting their time. They should worry about successfully running their states and leave the decision of abortion up to the woman who's body it is affecting.
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    It is a perfect example of how most Republicans are going out of their way to alienate women when they really don't need to!
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    @Yank
    Many women would not choose it for themselves. But women overwhelmingly reject laws to end abortion on demand.
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    Against the law if a child is raped or victim of incest? Choice will be made. Girls and women aren't forced to the butchers anymore.
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    @donnaemmons63 - A fetus is not a "helpless baby." There are no brain waves until at least week 24. During the first six to eight weeks, it isn't even recognizably human in shape. Many eggs, after being fertilized in the womb, "abort" naturally and do not even become fetuses. Of course it is better to not get pregnant in the first place, but do you really feel you have the high moral ground for passing judgment on another woman's decision?

    Women have been aborting unwanted pregnancies since prehistoric times. The Roe v Wade decision made this choice a safe one in our society. All these restrictive state laws cropping up (thanks mostly to a group called ALEC - google that) are attempts to remove the safety.
  • #598
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    I believe that life begins at conception, a baby's brainwaves can be detected at 6 weeks from conception. fingerprints have formed on an unborn child's hands by 14 weeks from conception,Thumbsucking has been documented at 7 weeks from conception, at 9 weeks from conception, all the structures necessary for pain sensation are functioning , a baby's heart begins to beat 18 days from conception..
  • #61
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    The Republican Party has been trying to control a woman's body for as long as I can remember. I don't see that as freedom, and I don't understand why any woman would vote for a Republican. Thank you Mr Cox.
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    @jjt47 do you hate that all laws tell you to be something? The pro-life stance is that abortion is murder, so yes they are telling you that you cannot legally murder an unborn child. If you wish to still be pro-choice you can still be, but will face the consequences of your actions. Just like pregnancy is a consequence of your actions.
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    @Yank what law tells me what to be. I have a problem with the hypocritical Republican Party preaching pro-life, and not giving a damn about the child, until it reaches the age of 18, when they can send him off to die in one of their imperialistic wars.
    What is the difference between killing by abortion, or killing in a war? Either way, it is a killing. Either way, someone's child dies.
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    @jjt47 military service is voluntary with only a small percent of service men being KIA. You are resorting to red herrings and straw men now. Let's also not forget that the Democrat party is the traditional pro-war party (Wilson, FDR, Truman , Kennedy, Johnson).
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  • #458
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    It is our job as parents to make sure our kids know how not to get pregnant. It is only because some parents are afraid to talk to their kids about sex and contraception that the schools have taken over that job.
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    @JTHEM If you have a good relationship and an open line of communication with your kids there is less chance they will have an unwanted pregnancy. It has worked for me, my kids are 24,22,17 and no unwanted pregnancies. Nothing is foolproof but as parents we do the best we can.
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    @Darkdreamer I have two 32 and 28 with one unwanted pregnancy aborted. I was told afterward. Never said a thing about it but was sworn to secrecy.
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    @JTHEM At least they came and told you even if it was after the fact. That is a hard thing to tell your mother so they must have a good relationship with you. We all make mistakes sometimes and sometimes all we can do is be there for them.
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  • #292
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    It is not solely the decision of the woman, assuming the male wants to be a part of the decision, it's called responsibility. For those who think it is a woman's choice only in all cases: Why do want to end all child support from the male? For if it is her body and sole decision she should have sole responsibility for the outcome of that choice.
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    Males should be responsible and choose to protect themselves also. Continuing a pregnancy is a woman's choice. Children need support.
  • #287
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    I have to agree with Dr. Cox...even though I am oppossed to aborting a child, as I see it as murder, it should be the woman's decision in this matter. She has to live with the decision and the consequences of the procedure and the killing of a living organism.
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