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  • #49
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    Pathetic, isn't it? No common sense anywhere. Attempting to apply a stupid food truck law to this? This goes on everywhere in our country and not just about the homeless. This level of insanity is applied to just about everything especially education with things like zero tolerance.
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    Who did know this was gong to be in the south? Seriously, Anyone?

    Is that Christian Conservatism or Compassionate conservatism?
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    @Poltal #1 Philadelphia has this exact law in place (Philly isn't in the south)#2 Birmingham City council passed this ordinance in 2013, you want to guess how many Republicans sit on said council?
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    I agree. It's what any Christian should do. Ar they going to arrest you for doing so ? The press will love that.
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    @MarkJM Yes, of course you're right. The liberal press and lamestream media would demand the pastor either get life in prison or that he should be fed to the lions. What was I thinking ?!
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    You know that is an EXCELLENT point! People are giving out 'food' even if under the heading of 'candy' on that day too without a permit!
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    Rick V

    I didn't think about that, If you need a permit to the feed the homeless Why not giving out Halloween candy, It's still handing out food. But when you're dealing with the law anything can happen.

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    Yes. Plus who ever receive those candies also need a 1099 to claim those candies as income(gain)!
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    I believe the rule does apply to any food item that is prepared on site or altered from it's original packaging. A sealed candy bar has been subject to all the laws regarding safe food production so they are fine, home made cookies, unless the kitchen was approved and licensed is a violation. This is not just pay $500 and you can give the food out. Your preparation and transportation must also be inspected and approved.

    An example is when I was a bar tender in Texas. One of the things that an inspector was to check was that any water used for cleaning glasses was to be kept at a minimum temperature of something like 150 degree (forget the exact number), a temperature that would burn your hands. In a high volume bar space for glasses means less space for alcohol so you are constantly cleaning throughout the night. See and inspector, pull all the drain plugs immediately. There were other equipment requirements that would prevent a regular home from meeting standards. Same goes for food preparation areas, thus no regular home would pass inspection, thus you cannot give away food prepared in that environment.

    Like I said, the justification is that this is for the safety of the public, and the homeless deserve as much protection as anyone else. Who doesn't think the homeless are equal? That is how they will frame any challenge to the rule. The govt is here to protect you, right?
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    This is another of those unforseen consequences of government involvement.
    The ord is directed to insure that some of these roach coaches are not selling bad food but in doing so allow no leway for charity. that is the problem with most Government involvement, it has good intensions but doesn't look beyond the first level to see the full impact of what it is doing.
    The way I look at it is that these people are not selling food they are contributing it to the needy so they should be exempt from the regulation.
    just my 2 cents.
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    @URBS

    Occasionally the government does do a few good things, but as for the bad ones, well I am going to guess that if a new rule/regulation/law comes into effect that inhibits small businesses or charity, like the above named, you can bet your socks that behind that R/R/L is a giant corporation that has no problem paying for or dealing with but not so much the little guys. So I bet that food truck owners are the ones trying to stop free hand outs cause sometimes the homeless have money and they want it.

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    H&R Block CEO Bill Cobb said in a statement that the court decision was a blow to taxpayers. "It is outrageous that all consumers don't enjoy basic protections with such a significant financial transaction as tax preparation," he said.

    The Institute for Justice has said that H&R Block supports the IRS regulations because they would help the company squeeze smaller competitors out of business.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/11/us-...
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    @LEC
    Not sure about the truck operators pushing it as they are generally just the little guy family type thing, at least where I am from. I think it is just that the city didn't take this into consideration when making the law.
    It is just like here in my city, McDonalds throws out massive amounts of food every day but they can not give it to the homeless or to one of the local shelters it must go in the trash.
    Someone needs to wake up and temper this stuff with a bit of common sense.
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    @URBS

    Once upon a time there were food wagon companies that sent out lots of truck. I suspect that is still true in many places.

    And yes we .need common sense and wisdom in those that are making the rules.
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    @LEC
    I am basing my judgement on what I see here in west Texas and here it is almost exclusively mom and pop set ups. There are a couple that have multiple trucks but even those only have a couple.
    I remember the fleets of roach coaches that used to run around construction sites and the High Schools at lunch time but at least here that has pretty much gone away and been replaced by Buritos and tacos on wheels.
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    For the first time I agree with 99% of everyone one here, this is insane, I hope this is reported around the country, most of all I hope the voters remove the ones who came up with this idea,
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    It IS absolutely ridiculous. Albuquerque P.D. has to set the bar higher for other Departments acting as real 'pricks'. They actually ARRESTED a minister who was trying to feed the homeless.
    A Metro Court Judge threw out the case (thank goodness!) A lawyer then sued the City of Albuquerque for its stupidity and it cost taxpayers $50,000. for the chicken-sh_t arrest.
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    This ridiculous ...and one of the reasons,.. I hate it on here when people just think I'm a democrat for bigger government....I'm for better government...but...not all this unnecessary bureaucratic nonsense...both major political parties are a joke to me...in the sense that their main interest is in helping corporations and spreading greed
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    This is most likely a city council, and if it's anything like mine it has almost nothing to do with major political parties.
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    Very few people even question why we are required to have a permit to sell food. It doesn't make those who eat ''permitted'' food any safer.

    It is still against the law to cause others harm whether they have a permit or not makes no difference.
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    All Democrat controlled cities. Gee, I wonder what the motive is? It couldn't be control, could it?
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    This should be taken to the Supreme Court. The state has no compelling interest in the feeding of food to the disadvantaged anymore than when Jesus fed the crowds. Yet, these officials will tell you they are Christians. If there is a separation of church and state, then the state cannot make laws that keep any faith from their duty to humanity. These laws should be struck down and those who implemented them removed from office.
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    This is just what I was thinking, murphy0071. Jesus did not need a permit when He fed the 5,000. Nor should His followers be required to pay for one. I also agree that any permit fees, when collected, should go toward helping the homeless and needy.
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    Just look at countries where there are fewer or unenforced government regulations or look at our robber baron past, and you might change your mind. Hundreds of thousands of people in those countries or times have died or been poisoned or crippled or their children work long, dangerous hours instead of going to school. Government regulation in the United States prevents most of that. What we need is not less government, but better government, and where it is lacking is usually due to legalized bribery and influence peddling.
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    Sad that the world is coming to this, where you can not help you neighbor without a permit, where you can not feed the hungry without a permit...

    This person is out there doing good, helping people and this is the response from Government. Just sad :(
  • #86
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    They would like to make it unlawful for folks to give food from their gardens to their neighbors. Tyranny at it's finest.
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    Eisenhower already did that in the 1950's, My grandparents were fearful to give farm products to next door neighbor, "my uncle", because of rules and regulations Eisenhower instituted, that's when the middleman was set up to sell product. No more producer to consumer sales everything had to go through middleman..
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    Selling products straight from producer to consumer is a right and any "law" regulation or Executive Order stating otherwise is null and void as far as I'm concerned. I know Roosevelt wrote an E.O. stating that storing more than 3 days worth of food was considered "hoarding" and against the "law".
    Venez le prendre!
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    @FaFoxy But Democrats love the poor! It's the Republicans that hate them....

    What a silly notion the left has. It's the policies of Democrats and crony capitalist Republicans that hurt the poor.

    For progressives, government replaces God as the source of authority.
  • #70
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    thats your government you voted in these past 7 years. under obama's admin there has been thousands upon thousands of new rules & regulations. enjoy.
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    In Wilmington, De., the "AUTHORITIES", under DE.'s Atty. Gen. Beau Biden--- WILL make sure WE ALL WILL SOON BE GOING TO JAIL FOR ANY--"FREE SPEECH" we post on the web. He will use HIS newly created term of " CYBER STALKING." If you think this can't happen to YOU, think again. Better yet, ASK Dr. David Matusiewicz / nurse, Amy Gonzalez and their mother, Ms. Lenore Matusiewicz. The authorities arrested the entire family for what Tom Matusiewicz did.* Since my brother, ex-police chief Daniel Babich slaughtered both of our parents, this would mean that the other family members should go to jail for what ONE family member did!( FYI: jonbenetstruecasehistory.com ) That is IF Beau Biden has his way! I think it must pay to have a V.P. of the U.S.A. for a father.
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