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    @sevenSecrets

    Some have earned that right to be attacked...I'm conservative and not necessarily Republican either. I have voted for some democrats in the past locally...way back when, while some were still worth a shit.
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    @sevenSecrets

    Yea well, sometimes it's not an attack so much as simply outing the truth...tax and spend...sorry, but the Democrats are the best at that one.
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    Ask Rahm what exactly? Do you not know that as Mayor, Emmanuel has fought the Chicago Teacher's Union? Do you not know that, as Mayor, Rahm has tried to cut pension cost of living increases and raise employee contributions to solve the pension crisis? No you obviously don't otherwise you wouldn't have made such an ignorant statement.

    The reason Chicago's pensions are underfunded is bc of the 20+ years of King Daley laying down to the demands of every single public union.

    On the state level, Speaker Madigan and Senate President Cullerton have a stranglehold over Springfield.
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    Quinn portrayed himself as an "outsider" for many years, but when he finally got the big chair he turned into the same old corrupt Illinois politician.
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    Which is the same solution that needs to be addressed at the federal level, except people are selfish and want everything govt provides and they want it for free.
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    @AceLuby

    While I don't completely disagree, I'll see responsible federal spending and a federal government that is much smaller before I consider raising taxes as a solution.
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    Rauner profited millions from the pension system.... Just google his businesses and follow the paper trail to find to find out why it's such a mess. He literally is taking millions out of the pension system for his own use / campaign!
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    Given a choice between a Politician and a Successful Businessman to run an enterprise I will always choose a successful businessman.
    The issue about not knowing Rauner's plan is a non-issue. We knew Obama's plan. Very little of it happened. The promise to post all legislation, the promise to be transparent, and virtually every other promise was just and only that a promise. Broken promises come from campaign promises that are meant to win an election. One never really knows whether they will be kept.
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    @Cal If one includes running a plantation is running a business as one should then you have very many businessmen as Presidents. A plantation was mainly a very large farm where crops were grown for export. It is very similar to a manufacturer.
    http://politix.topix.com/stmt/IO6MOFBJ4LGUHP5...
    THere were then 9 presidents who were businessmen. You may thing some of them were bad presidents, but others may not. You may think Obama is a good president, but at least half the country thinks otherwise.
    The names of the Presidents who are legitimately classified as businessmen:
    George Washington
    Thomas Jefferson
    James Madison
    James Polk
    Warren Harding
    Harry Truman
    Jimmy Carter
    George H.W. Bush
    George W. Bush
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    @Cal Aint that the truth. They have a hard time even winning elections, but they have a VERY hard time when they can't do everything they want by edict.
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    @AceLuby If you ever ran a successful business you would know that a boss that acts the way you think they do would lose employees as fast as the employees could find another job.
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    Such a disaster when someone actually has a plan to balance the budget. It's so much better to promise tax cuts and not pay for them like the GOP has done for 30+ years.
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    We've had 40 years of the tax & spend Democrat ideology. Gee, after all those tax increases our national debt must be zero! Oh that's right, it is 17 TRILLION! How stupid can a person be to believe one word out of a politician's mouth. How many times have we heard a politician say we will spend money to get the economy going again & THEN the added tax revenue will lower the debt. Have you heard that before? Yeh about thousand times? I realize the GOP is also responsible for our debt but they have been the only party that has consistently tried to cut spending over the years only to have Democrats spew the same rhetoric of how the GOP hates the poor. WAKE UP, we are going bankrupt & you keep electing the tax & spenders. It's our money, hold them accountable & quit begging for handouts.
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    The debt is a total non-issue. We have a negative effective interest rate on that debt, meaning that other countries are literally PAYING US TO BORROW THEIR MONEY.
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    @Cal Let me guess, you are an Obama Democrat. Not only is that totally wrong, it is about the stupidest thing I have heard is ages. Go drink some more Kool-aid.
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    What are you smoking? For 30 years we've cut taxes by over 50% from what it was before and increased spending while... wait for it... the GOP WAS IN CHARGE! Reagan, Bush, and Bush ALL did this. Clinton and Obama BOTH kept this. All of this has added 16 trillion to the debt. This is not democratic ideology, it is conservative ideology of putting everything on the credit card. Bush RAN on tax cuts instead of paying off the debt and YOU voted for it. And here you are blaming other people for the problems your ideology caused, which is exactly what conservatives are best at, creating problems and then blaming everyone except themselves for the results. Your Fox kool-aid is getting warm, might want to take a few more gulps.
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    @Cal We are paying abut 800 million a day on interest payments on that debt & people like you deny it? If there is a negative effective interest rate on that debt, why does it keep going up? How many trillions will it take for you to grasp reality? When our nation defaults?
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    A person can spin this any way they want to but the bottom of bottom lines is that these crooked lying pieces of shit, knew when they first passed the tax increase, they, at that time had NO intention of resending the tax. Their plan from day one was to stick it to the Illinois tax payer like they have done so many times before.
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    That would be because their ideology is incapable of supporting itself without the sweat and productivity of those who are more responsible to life's demands.
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    Raising taxes is probably the only real solution but with the way goverments can't stop spending more and more it seems like there will come a time when there isn't anything left to tax.
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    Look into Rauner's businesses!... he profits from your tax money! He made millions from being an equity manager for the same pension system everyone says is broken!
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    Does the probability of a truthful ad cause you angst. Why should raising taxes cause the Illinois gov some heartburn? Taxing and spending is what the Dems do best and they still get elected. I wonder why!
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    Yeah, why tax and spend when you can just spend and put it on the credit card like the GOP? Who needs to pay for plans like huge tax cuts or expensive drug plans when you can just add more DEBT?
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    @AceLuby Unfortunately the repubs aren't clean but it seems that if and when the Republicans control both houses (rarely) their economic record is better. Now we have a 17 billion dollar national debt which interest is being paid by paper. You talk bout credit cards. You may love this administration we got now but you don't know it, they're screwing you. But you can feel good because I believe that the republicans are getting set up for really bad times when the check bounces.
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    "What's Rauner's plan? We still don't really know. He says he favors dropping the tax rate down to 3.75 percent, which the law allows for in January unless Quinn and lawmakers change it. Ask Rauner where he will come up with $4 billion in cuts in a $34.5 billion state budget and he vaguely points to pension reform and Medicaid waste, but the lack of detail is alarming. Voters from north to south need to start demanding from Rauner some specifics."

    Supporting this man without some real specifics is the sort of thing an irrational voter might do.
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    @Tacitus01

    Yeah, but which one is the crook?

    Just as important, who is going to serve the people, and who is going to serve Big Money?
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    @Cincinnatus With the track record that Democrats have in Illinois, you really have to ask? How many state level politicians retire to the pen?
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    @Tacitus01 hmm let's see, the last two il governors to serve time are blagoyevich(a democrat) and George Ryan (a Repubs).

    Further, why not Google Bruce Rauner nursing home. Read up on the GOP choice to run Illinois. Its pretty interesting how he puts profits before the lives of elderly people.
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    Political consultant, Radnor Inc.
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    Don't vote for a good friend for governor of Illinois. Remember, it's a ticket to jail. How many ex-Illinois governors are in jail now?

    Friends don't let friends get elected governor of Illinois.
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