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  • #32
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    I guess the poor people of the Netherlands are suffering a life of misery as well. It isn't socialism that's the problem, it is corrupt leadership, since just as much poverty and misery exists in capitalist India as it does in China, just to use one nation as an example.

    And incidentally, China is a mix of governmental socialism and capitalist economic theory, where the citizen pays less taxes than he would in the United States. Why do you think so many American businesses flocked there?
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    Yes if people actually knew how folks lived in these foreign countries, They wouldnt be so willing to bash America.
    If they went to England and tried to get healthcare They wouldnt be so impressed with having it here.
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    The tearing down of America and the American work force by promoting slavery and inhumane living conditions. I would say that we have just about come full circle. How much longer before we start realizing similar conditions here at home?
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    Socialism isn't evil, it's communism that is, they're both completely different. Nobody seems to get that. People in socialist nations tend to live better and healthier lives, people in communist nations tend to live in oppression and misery. Some communist nations sort of use a semi-socialistic agenda but it's not true socialism, those nations (such as China and North Korea) use some socialist things. In the US we have Social Security, welfare, and food programs, those a socialist programs. The US isn't a socialist nation though, even though our president is a socialist as well.
    Communism, in theory, is great for a nation of true equality. Problem is, every time we've seen a communist or dictatorship nation come into power, they've screwed their people over severely and no equality has happened. Rich people are moving out of China, that's how bad human rights are there, and they're the ones that cause most of the government corruption.
    But yeah, communism is NOT socialism. That's like saying a principality is the same as a republic, they're very different.
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    This is one of the main reasons why many of us do not buy anything made in the Peoples Republic of China, and it's another reason why you see so many brand-new items of PRC manufacture in area Thrift Stores around Albuquerque. I'm guessing a good many of those things were gifts, and many locals, discovering where they were manufactured, donate them to Thrift Stores rather than keep them or try to 'regift' them. That plus the fact that the product of slave labor is not usually known for its quality and durability.
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    "Should US consumers consider a boycott on goods manufactured in Chinese factories?"

    WTH? Some of us have been saying this for 30 years, did Politix just notice that China uses slave labor? Many Chinese companies are owned by the PLA, their profits go right into building the Chinese Military. The Chinese economy will surpass ours in size this year, their military will also surpass ours soon and we are paying for it all.
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    @methinks There you hit on a reality that I have been spouting for years. It's has never been just about American jobs and reducing cost. It has always been about teaching 1.7 BILLION to spend like we do. You think the rich got richer in the last 20 years? Hold onto your ass with both hands if you have 40 more years to watch.
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    I guess someone really should tell the people those CK and Tommy jeans the paid more than $60 for, or those $200+ Nikes only cost $12 to make even if most that put any weight on those things don't really care.
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    @marine1 It's not even a cost thing any more. We have alot of retarded spenders over here. A superior pair of levi jeans made here can be found for $40 or less while most designer jeans made abroad are more expensive inspite of a cheaper cost. Which do you think sell more regardless? Bunch of suckers I tell ya!
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    That is why I loved watching the pictures of the OWS crowd with all their Chinese goods complaining about no good paying US jobs.
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    @Yank it was quite hilarious to see them out there protesting against Wall Street yet most of them voted to put Obama into office. I guess it didn't matter that the very Wall Street banks they protested were some of Obama's top donors. lol That and Obama pushed for the Wall Street bailout... and the whining about capitalism while they sat around on their apple products, enjoying their free wireless connection from the Starbucks down the street. They were either ignorant or hypocritical which is why I couldn't take them seriously.
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    I'm willing to bet that very new New York liberals will be willing to give up their personal adornment fixation long enough to make much of a difference.

    Isn't the liberal mantra to whine, but let someone else make the real sacrifice?
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    Why would this situation have a liberal slant? It's seems that none of us will be willing to give up our "persoal adornment" to make a difference?. It's this attitude that causes nothing to be accomplished to benefit anyone.
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    @Roco The difference is that liberals will make noise about it, and ultimately do nothing.

    Much the same way that so many folks piss and moan about the loss of jobs to imported manufacturing, yet few are willing to forgo their own supply of Chinese widgets to turn the tide.

    Topping it all off is the democrat push to make America even less competitive by artificially inflating minimum wages. Kind of like a nationwide union, so to say. And we all know what unions have done to manufacturing in this country.

    But, I'm sure some liberal blowhard will put forth the crocodile tears about this. Ultimately, nothing will change.
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    @Jeff_Woehrle both the democrats and republicans are biased. They are both evil. They are both controlled by money, greed and power. Enough said.
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    @Crazycon312 To a point, I agree. It's just that Republicans will at least buy you a drink before screwing you. Democrats just assume you are too stupid to even notice.
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    What are you smoking? The EPA isn't what prevents slave labor in the US. Get off the talking points and try thinking for yourself. Being young AND ignorant is a terrible combination. DO something about it and get out of the echo chamber.
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    @AceLuby I don't want slave labor here. It's good it's prevented, and the 13th Amendment does that.

    The EPA prevents JOBS.
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    "IT SHOULD BE THE LAST."

    A bit melodramatic, no? How many have the Chinese communists killed in the last 60 years? 70,000,000? And this one workers plight is the last straw? By God, 70 million deaths is one thing, but being forced to work 13 hour days is intollerable!
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    @galt45 I don't understand what you mean. Should I have written an article about the "Great Leap Forward" instead?

    It's not the hours. My friend works at a factory and his shift is 12 hours long, that's just the nature of most manufacturing jobs. The difference is he gets fairly compensated for his labor, is provided with a safe work environment and gets to go home at the end of the night.

    Thanks for reading and commenting.
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    @GregZeman
    I thought that phrase was funny. China just recently (so they say) stopped harvesting organs from executed and LIVING prisoners. But a note to a SAKS shopper must be the last outrage we tolerate.
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    @galt45 The difference there is that while American consumers effectively have no say in how China treats their prisoners (or their organs), we do have opportunities to cut into the profits of companies that rely on Chinese factory slaves. I'm not saying this note was the last straw or representative of the worst human rights offenses in Chinese history, I'm just saying we shouldn't fund slavery.

    Like you noted earlier, I'm far from the first person to point out these despicable conditions or to suggest maybe we shouldn't be buying so much cheap crap from these factories. But I think as long as people are literally sending out distress messages begging for basic human rights, the least we can do is muster up a bit of indignation at their treatment and consider taking action.
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    Gimme STUFF because it reflects my selfworth and shows how much money I have to spend! Yay for cheap salad spinners and iPhones!
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    @methinks Stop it, you're making want to get all gussied up in my Hello Kitty fuzzy sleep pants and oversized Michigan State hoodie and hit the town!
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    @jamayla This is a serious subject, but that's just funny. I do see a lot of people in public in their jammies and house shoes. It's pretty bad, depending on where you are and how old those jammies are. I experienced one incident, an unfortunate late night run to a local Wal-Mart, where I found myself face to face with a woman in her early fifties, no teeth to speak of and a mass of greasy hair. She was wearing pajama pants, filthy old house shoes and a see through, white T-shirt, bra-less. My retinas are still hurting...
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    It should but the almighty dollar rules and this type of brutal labor would not be tolerated here. That means the shareholders would have to accept lower returns and that won't happen in our free market.
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    Minus the pollution. I live in the great chemical state of NJ and I've seen enough cancer deaths to embrace the same old, same old.
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    @Dutchman1982 That was before in the days when a 15% gross profit was considered acceptable.
    Then these .com businesses came along making money hand over fist in a very short time. Once they got the taste........
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    And they should start with APPLE. Until Apple does all of its manufacturing in free countries where there is no 'slave' labor no one should buy another Apple product. This goes for all products manufactured in China under horrid conditions.
    To hell with the United Nations. It is worthless. We, the American consumer, have enough clout with what we are willing to not buy to change a lot of policy.
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    The obvious answer is yes. The realistic answer is no. We want our cheap smart phones, we want our wal-mart stuff. We can do the whole thats terrible thing, but at the end of the day we want our cheap stuff. The fed needs to look at tariffs again, which is opposed by both parties, especially the Republican party who I usually vote for, but on this issue they are wrong. I am all for free and fair trade, but its not fair when you compete with nations under the guise of free trade, but you place burdens and regulations on top of your domestic businesses that other nations you trade with do not have, and of course we as Americans do demand a honest wage. Remember our poverty stricken poor for the most part have a roof over their heads, air conditioning and heating, and cable tv and usually internet. Percentage wise speaking
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    Problem is this "cheap stuff" really isn't that cheap.......to us.
    It's only cheap to the corporations who have it produced in China. They give us a $10 break on a $400 I-Phone that cost them less then (probably)$100 to produce and ship.
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    @stepped_in_it Thats called supply and demand and profit. Sorry, but no on makes you purchase the product. I have no problem with profit. Profit is driven by supply and demand. It is that simple. We our willing to pay that money because we want it, that is the demand. It is what it is
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    @guy42 Can you leave ME out of the WE.
    I don't "pay that money" for that crap. I don't care about the latest and greatest smart phone. I don't want the newest technology before I've even unpacked my new technology.
    And I don't whine about being broke/homeless/underpaid/hungr y while I talk on my $500 phone and drive my $40,000 car and tap on my $300 tablet and eat out everyday for that $12 lunch.
    I don't buy into consumerism......
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    @stepped_in_it Thats all well and good but there is alot more people who do buy into consumerism. That is reality.
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    @stepped_in_it You are one of the proud few, too bad there aren't more! Can you imagine what would happen if consumers realized their power for the right reasons? Apple would come out with that $500 phone, the people would say hell no we aint suckers, phone sits on shelf until it is reduced to $300. End of a wonderful story!
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    @Medicinebow Your joking right? Surely you've heard about the Oprah Book Club and the OWN network, not to mention her production company Harpo, INC. What I'm saying is that I don't support anyone who uses racially charged rhetoric to bully people into thinking or voting a certain way.
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    @o_g_neckbone I know she had a TV show and heard she started her own network. Never heard of the book club. Never watched her show.

    I have little use for TV other than catching the news occasionally. That being said, my wife has started streaming House of Cards and we watch that together.

    I really have too many other interests to bother with TV. Maybe when I get old(er). LOL
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    Perfect Tea Party working conditions. Unions ended these atrocities in the US after the great Triangle Fire, but conservatives miss these good old days. Between the destruction of unions and the corporate takeover of the US government by the oligarchs as supported by Scalia and company, our conditions will move downward to match China's.
  • #111
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    The use of robots has already begun. Many iPhones are already assembled using robots and this trend will continue.
    It's puzzling why paper bags cannot be cheaply made here, in the US, using automation.
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    @Dralger No, it's because it's cheaper to pay someone nothing in a prison to make the bags than it does to invest in automation.
  • #85
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    Start bringing manufacturing back to America. With innovative tax law the cot differential could be taken care of and with more workers the economy would be better.
  • #159
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    That's like shattering a vase and then saying all we need is a little glue and it'll be fixed. Those jobs are gone and no amount of 'innovative tax law' will bring them back. What we need is to invest in jobs that absolutely have to be done here. You can't outsource road construction...
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    This isn't just China, this is most of the developing world. Factory jobs left the U.S. to go to place where there are no labor protections. Corporations either contract with local companies or build factories in places where human life is cheap and the labor cheaper. So, not only does the U.S. loose the jobs, we also are loosing in terms of international labor rights. Our own labor rights and paychecks are suffering and will be under pressure to continue their downward trek as long as American Corporations and the US Congress and SCOTUS support the rights of corporations over human rights.
  • #146
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    Big manufacturing businesses would rather exploit and poorly pay workers in countries where there are no rights or protection. Check the tag on the bag of your shirt. It was probably sewn by some woman in Indonesian working long hours and earning very little.

    Oddly enough, that seems to be what we're striving for right here in the United States.
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    @PayThatCEO Most clothing is made in Bangladesh these days. You know, that place where a couple of times a year we read about another garment factory burning down with all workers inside and, last year, a four story garment industry building collapsed killing over a thousand workers.

    It's not odd that this is happening. This is intended. Our corporate overlords need to meet demands for higher interest and dividends from their investors.
  • #93
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    Why is this a surprise to anyone? We saw this a long time ago with NIKE. The slave labor conditions that were used to make those shoes in Viet Nam were publicized and for a while NIKE said they would do something but all they did was get rid of a few managers and continue to do business as usual.
    Want to make this go away? Make it easier for companies to operate in the US and less favorable for them to outsource.
  • #112
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    It's a mentality that lives on in the unions of the liberal northwest.
    You plainly see how evil the motive of profit can be. It's not an imported evil. It's inherent.
    And ya know all these people that make over $100,000 year and pay $1200/month rent because they are scared and have cameras everywhere on their apartment complex are the lowest form of society to me.
    They are hiding something.
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    @HawkTheSlayer The mentality that people should be able to live comfortably after they work hard for their money? Oh, how terrible for those 'liberals' to want something so awful. Yes, let's instead adopt the China model and 'let' people work for $1 a day, that'll solve ALL our problems.
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    "Consumers want amazing new electronics delivered each year"
    Yes they do! They are not sick and stupid enough that they would pay $500-$700 for a phone along with the really expensive service, but they will also do it knowing it was built at a cost of $20 by a child slave.
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