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  • #14
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    @Ets101592 That is not true. If the college was before service, then its not unless you were on an ROTC full scholarship. You only get tuition assistance while you are actually on active duty and the GI bill doesn't kick in until about a year of service is given. Plus it it not retroactive either

    ~Retired Air Force MSgt
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    A lot NG take a paycut when they are called up for active duty. I think employers should not only give them time off to serve, but pay their salary while they are called up.
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    In theory I love your idea.

    But its not practical. We are currently borrowing money to run the government. So we should borrow money to pay back borrowed money?

    Hmm...of corse you could make the argument that they owe the government the money in the first place but technically they owe lending companies the money which would have to be paid back.....

    So love the troops...love the idea...but it isn't practical.
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    I support the pay as you go. For every year you serve you get a percentage off the college loan. Serve 6 years, 100% paid off. One could call it "public service" loan repayment, If you die while serving, it is paid off completely. This is the least we can do.
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    Almost makes sense, but it needs a cap. If they borrowed all possible loans at the max for Doctorate it would be excessive.
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    @DegredWhiteGuy We aren't addressing doctorates; however, most graduate programs have paying positions as TAs and GAs which reduces the financial impact. These also include tuition waivers.
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    Interest still accrue when loans are deferred. Interest should not be charged until at least 12 months after discharge from active duty.
  • #45
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    Why? The military gets paid much better now than they ever have and when deployed they also get tax incentives so why should they be given special treatment for this? Additionaly while on active duty the get tuition assistance as well as the other benefits that aid them in paying for school none of which are available to the civilians so why?
    Now prior to anyone getting all huffy I served for over 20 years in the Military so no need to come back with the usual stuff like I don't know or I hate the military etc.
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    And going further, I think anyone that has seen combat service should get it free..Keep some of that money that always goes to countries to try to get them to love us, home. and use it for good. A college education for our troops that risked their lives fighting those that we give that money..
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    Now you're talking. Anyone who has been in combat deserves a free education and more. Those who sat around twiddling their thumbs in so-called "support services" should not get the same benefits as those who faced the battlefield.

    My stepson has had a cushy job in the Air Force for the last 6 years. Free lasik eye surgery, free education (up until last year), housing allowances, combat pay (he was in Iraq and Afghanistan and never left the safety of the base - EVER), and a chance to tour most of Europe. When he leaves the AF next year, he'll getting a fat bonus.

    I say good for him, BUT I don't really think military benefits should be the same across the board. While my stepson had the time to sit around getting himself an education courtesy of the taxpayer, some other poor gun-toting kid was getting shot at and hardly had time to take a sh*t much less open a book and go to online college. THAT'S the guy/girl who needs benefits.
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    All soldiers and veterans should be granted a free ride to an education after they serve the length of their enlistment or served in a war.
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    I don't feel that military people should even have student loans. They should be free riders since they have volunteered to serve their country.
  • #73
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    Those who are inconvenienced by their military service should have as many other inconveniences eliminated as possible. If anything the government could make the payments due for the serviceman for the duration of his training, service, and 6 months after his release.
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    Why are Troops even taking out loans for School?.... The USA does a horrid job of taking care of it's people. In more developed countries, the Government PAYS YOU to go to school. It's an investment in the Nation's future to have educated citizens.
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    If it were up to me as soon as they deploy in country out government would start paying the loans with no payback if by chance they give all the loans would be forgiven so their families are not made to pay off the loan.
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    Finally something a democrat says something worthy of supporting. Shocker it came from a democrat because most military are republican.
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    @Cincinnatus - If she just saw this problem then she has had her head in the sand for the last 18 month Or maybe she was following too closely to pelosi/hoyer, etc. |;-) Her timing leads one to question her ulterior motives.
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    Have to agree with you on support but if the legislation fails and she wins reelection will she bring it up again early in her next term or will she let it wait until just before the 2016 election?
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    Problem #1: A lot of our the student loans our servicemen and women have been saddled with is from unscrupulous FOR PROFIT worthless schools, that often spend more money on advertising and recruitment than they do instruction and are suckering them in with worthless degrees. U. of Phoenix, Kaplan, Strayer, and others, that often are unaccredited, or only hold accreditation because they purchase financially troubled small schools. They seek military members because they know the DoD and VA is a straight shot to a pile of government money. They'll often lure them in with fake "scholarships", but their cost is so high, the student would have been better off going to community college than these scam institutions.(Kaplan would give students a 42% "discount", but a 3 credit hour course was still 8 times as expensive as at a California community college,$645 versus $78, per a Harvard study). They're there for profit to the owners and the investors, not to educate . Strayer is a prime example. In 2009, it spent $1,300 per student on instruction,$2,500 per student on marketing and returned $4,500 per student in profit, while its president/CEO earned fifty times as much as the president of Harvard, plus 84.9% of its funding is from federal education money and is the top 10 for receiving post 9/11 G.I. Bill funds.- per U.S. Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions.

    Problem #2: Student loans are like herpes, they never go away. They're one of the few debts that stick with you through any type of bankruptcy. The only chance is if the bankruptcy is caused by “certainty of hopelessness” if you or a dependent has a permanent disability, or a serious physical or mental illness. They can garnish wages, take tax returns, part of your Social Security and Disability checks, you may not be able to renew professional licenses, and of course fees and penalties can be added up the wazoo (because like everything else, if you're having trouble paying balance X, you're definitely going to be able to pay balance X + Z) It was just for federal loans, but thanks to the GOP sponsored Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005, it extended the rules to private loans as well. Even though it had some Democrat votes (including dumb ass Biden), it was passed with NO REPUBLICANS VOTING AGAINST IT. SENATE VOTE- GOP:55-0 DEM:19-25. HOUSE VOTE- GOP:229-0 DEM: 73-125

    There was this amendment from the Democrat Durbin:
    "Amdt. No. 16, As Modified.; To protect service members and veterans from means testing in bankruptcy, to disallow certain claims by lenders charging usurious interest rates to servicemembers, and to allow servicemembers to exempt property based on the law of the State of their premilitary residence."
    A plan to protect our service members from the anti-consumer GOP bill (only $100 million in lobbying from the credit industry). I wonder how the parties voted? You guessed it. 58-0 against the amendment by the GOP (2 not voting). Democrats voting in favor of our servicemen 37-6 (2 not voting, and Baucus, Biden, Byrd, Carper, Johnson and Nelson voting with the GOP).
  • #66
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    Or we could pay them what they are worth. its sad isn't it that the idea a democrat's proposal that would be quickly endorsed by republicans, is considered at risk because parties put winning over good of country?
  • #44
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    What!? This wasn't dreamed up by the Patriotic Party? I thought Democrats were the America Haters.

    Proving once again that the Democratic party generally does more for soldiers than the "Patriots" aka Republican Party.

    Do more for the veterans than slapping on a yellow ribbon magnet on your car and calling yourself a patriot. Vote for politicians and legislation that supports the military personnel on and off the battlefield.
  • #37
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    I oppose it because they should go back to the old soldiers & sailors act...When I was in, I had the option of deferring my loans for the entire time I was in or pay them back without interest.
  • #13
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    Student loans should be kept at least as low as loans to be business. Or forgiven for any kind of service to the country, keep interest very low on student loans , so we have an educated populace.
  • #22
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    The Pennsylvania legislature voted for universal education for that very reason. They knew that democracy can exist with educated (male) voters back in 1836.
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    @Pete-o Do you mean that is there still universal public education in the primary grades? Yes. Universal education was from 1st through 6th grades back then. We now have middle and high school as universal education. I would like to see it through two or more years of college or trade school.
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