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  • #19
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    Everything she is for I,m against. Since when is the government suppose to deal with student loans, tell people how to run their businesses, what to pay and who to hire?
    And, the Obama administration has done nothing about big banks for over 5 years, so why would he start now?
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    The only disagreement I have with your statement is about student loans.

    Student loans are a good hand up to people who need help getting out of a slump. Its a loan not a freebie. And helps all but the richest Americans go to school.

    I spent a few years homeless. I refused foodstamps. I refused government hand outs. I used student loans and NEVER missed a class....well not many. I graduated with a 3.5 from Pitt and pulled myself up two six figures a year.

    I paid back my loans with interest.

    I like to think I got myself into the mess and with a few helping hand ups I got myself out of the mess.
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    @craythegray government subsidized student loans are the worst thing the government can do for college students. They encourage debt without a thought about the consequences.
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    @craythegray Your talking personal responsibility here and that always goes against the grain of a liberal. Good job. .Been there , done that.
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    In 2008 the people voted the d's in control, it only took 2 years for the people to realize their mistake. If the d's would've done a terrific job like the president campaigned on they would still be in charge, but they didn't.
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    Look at what the d's are harping on currently, minimum wage, equal pay, and immigration reform...why didn't they fix all these when they could? It's all electioneering propaganda. Vote for us, we'll fix it, what voters should ask is "why didn't you fix it last time?"
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    For example, after the hillarycare debacle, the R's had ample time for healthcare reform that made sense, they sat on their hands, now we got the aca, health care reform that helps few but hurts almost as many, and will go down as the costliest inefficient mess we now know it to be. Hundreds of millions (wealth transfer in my opinion) wasted on state run websites alone that can't function. Does anyone seriously believe the cost of these websites and their inefficiency is a mistake? I don't believe that many states could have all these websites built at such costs, and basically none of them work. Special thanks go to the states who didn't participate in the fraud these websites have become.
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    Anyone notice the Romneycare website in MA worked, after the Obamacare "fixes" were installed, IT BURNT TO THE GROUND...sound suspicious to you?
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    @joyshusband "Romneycare website in MA worked, after the Obamacare "fixes" were installed, IT BURNT TO THE GROUND"...great point.
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    "In 2008 the people voted the d's in control, it only took 2 years for the people to realize their mistake. "

    And 2 years later they realized they made a mistake by electing extreme conservatives into Congress and gave Obama another 4 years.. I wonder what's going to happen in November?
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    It will be a sight for sore eyes to see Harry Reid moved to the back row of the Senate. Not everybody is a liberal in this country and pro "Big Nanny Government"!
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    You wants see the face of lies? The face of radical, anti constitution, anti free choice, control freak, nanny state, cradle to crave, liberal god control of production? Elizabeth warren is that face. Not only is she a socialist democrat. She's a LOON socialist democrat. The woman has more in common with Vladimir Lenin than she does with ANY of the founders.
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    @Ets101592

    The shame is, that if the Republicans do manage to control both houses is that they will do more slash and burn cuts with the left-hand and with the right they will find ways to give the 1% more government welfare payments.

    The only hope is that Obama is liberal with the Veto.
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    @Ets101592

    You are right about Warren not being anything like the founding fathers. The ones that are like the founders are the top 10%.
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    @AceLuby

    I hope that's not the case..good news, I saw a blurb that said the Republicans are trying to dump Tea party contenders... have they learned their lesson you think?
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    Yes, because when you're getting screwed over it's much better that it's a corporation doing it and not the govt. It's not like we have an option to just vote people out of office or something.
  • #126
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    Two TP tenets-less gov control and less taxes-think that is pro-business? Add into the three tenet mix, Constitutionality-and remember, the Constitution holds States' rights, supreme.
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    Speaking of minimum wages, Ms. Warren: thank God¹ we have a president who owns a pen!

    Uh... wait... private contractors on military bases can't raise prices to pay workers the new presidential penislation-mandated² minimum wage so jobs are being lost?

    Veterans are being thrown out of nursing homes because they can't afford to pay the new presidential penislation-mandated minimum wage?

    Thank you, Mr. President!

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/05/11/minimu...

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    ¹ I apologize in advance to our atheist, agnostic and/or anti-Christian readers if I have... uh, Just kidding!
    ² Penislation: that's like "legislation" by a Congress as provided by our Constitution, except it's done using a pen.
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    " I apologize in advance to our atheist"
    No apology needed. A true atheist 1st) respects your beliefs & 2nd) doesn't push their (lack of) beliefs as long as you don't push your beliefs <which is exactly what this country was founded on>
    "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
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    @Kimber_TLE

    That's not the way Cal rolls, he doesn't like to debate fact.
    Carl's debate style is the denial game. Deny the lie. Deny the lie. Deny the lie. Deny the lie. Deny the lie.
    It's not that Cal's not smart and good at recalling history because he is. Cal is a revisionist and a master spin artist so you have to make your point and stick to that point when debating Cal.
    His game is to take you off point and once he succeeds you lose.
    Stick to your point, hold your guns where the liberal record is concerned and Cal loses everytime.
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    I don't know why they waste the energy to post this insipid tripe. What else can Liz say being a democrat?? Other than what her party stands for; big gument, big debt, big spenders and of course, the Marxist philosophy of taking from one and giving to another who haven't earned it.....

    "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." --Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Ludlow, September 6, 1824
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    @S-N-A-F-U "I don't know why they waste the energy to post this insipid tripe. "

    To push an agenda?

    Nice quote.
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    @S-N-A-F-U "too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious."

    Indeed. Where I live they're called 1%'ers.
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    @Tolpuddle

    Info only:@BobSmith

    Where 'Jefferson' and I live, it means responsibility and self-reliance and not dependency on others! And for those so called 1%'ers (250K or more) They earned it -- get over it! Instead of wallowing in the Marxist principals of Envy, Class Warfare and Dependency on others (through Big Sow gubment) for ones meager existence. <wink>

    Lest we forget--

    "The Constitution only gives the people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
    --Benjamin Franklin

    "Because of winter the lazy one will not plow; He will be begging during harvest time, but there will be nothing." Proverbs. 20:4
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    @S-N-A-F-U Z AND WE HAVE TO TAKE DRUG TESTS TO EARN THE MONEY TO PAY THE UNEDUCATED, LAZY WELFARE TAKERS WHO DON'T HAVE TO TAKE A DRUG TEST TO GET MY MONEY.
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    then look at the Tea Party tenets-find out for yourself-go to just one meeting-it not about the social issues-those are not the TP tenets.
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    I would like them to take all 33 available seats. It would not be quite enough to convict Obama at an impeachment trial, but, with luck, a couple of Democrats will just not show up for the vote and Obama will be kicked out of office. Nothing better could happen for our country. We desperately need a change at the top.
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    I wish there were a viable third choice but until that time comes I have to stick to the lesser of two evils and that is the Republicans.
  • #33
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    That's an awful outlook, to be frank. You're picking evil for the United States of America.

    Why would you do that?
  • #45
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    @Rattrap
    Because there is no other viable alternative. To vote for a third party candidate that has zero chance of winning is to throw your vote away and allow the most evil to win.
    I say the lesser of two evils because I do not trust either Party. I trust certain individuals within the parties but not the parties themselves.
    So until there is a better option I pick the best viable alternative.
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    @URBS "So until there is a better option I pick the best viable alternative. "

    I agree 100% with you on not trusting either party yet trusting a few souls. I however question why you would consider a party viable that is willing to cut already meagre benefits from those who are aged, disabled and children even more with the ultimate goal of ending all their benefits yet are ok with allowing someone who owns a luxury yacht tax deductions on the yacht.
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    @Tolpuddle
    The things you mention here are Democrat talking points.
    A little deeper look into the proposals shows that the elimination of benefits is not the ultimate but the elimination of abuses inside those systems is. Rather than reinforce the dependence on Government they are for creating more jobs to get people off the Government dole.
    Tax deductions are there for everyone. The fallacy of the tax deduction argument is that none of those in Washington are for making any real change to the tax codes. Increasing the tax rates on those that already pay over 90% of the taxes is not an answer.
    The only real fair method of taxation is a flat tax. Neither party is willing to do that.
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    @URBS "A little deeper look into the proposals shows that the elimination of benefits is not the ultimate but the elimination of abuses inside those systems is."

    Look even deeper and you'll see that eliminating all abuse is an unrealistic approach because the numbers are minute enough that eliminating those minute numbers would cost more than leaving well enough alone. I would also point out the the right has not once came up with any proposal that would eliminate abuse that was realistic. Drug testing was a huge bust right here where I am in Florida. I don't recall the actual numbers but what was found is that approximately 1 out of 1,000 tested positive for drug use and there were those that tested positive that were using drugs prescribed by a physician.

    The right also uses the lie the SSI isn't sustainable when there is in excess of 2 trillion above what is actually being used and distributed to recipients. The last article read stated SSI was sustainable for something like the next 20+ years. I dunno about you but I'm fairly convinced something is going to change between now and the next twenty years.

    "Rather than reinforce the dependence on Government they are for creating more jobs to get people off the Government dole."

    Hey I'm all for that! 100% and then a few more percentage points on top of that! Even better, teach me how to do anything at all that would allow me to no longer be 100% disabled and self sufficient once more. It would shickle me titless to eat something besides chicken, hot dogs and Ramen noodles. Hell, gimmee two of em! So,,,, why in the last 4 years hasn't the GOP come up with one single solitary bill to do just that? Why have they wasted the entire last 4 years trying to tear chit apart instead of trying to improve one single solitary thing?

    "Tax deductions are there for everyone."

    Indeed they are but that doesn't make them right though does it?

    " The fallacy of the tax deduction argument is that none of those in Washington are for making any real change to the tax codes."

    I disagree. I recall very well how the right as well as a few from the left argued against Obaam raising taxes for those making above 250,000.00 I'm also 59 and I recall when Reagan lowered taxes. I doubt my there was a $5 a week difference in my paycheck.

    " Increasing the tax rates on those that already pay over 90% of the taxes is not an answer."

    Show me anything whatsoever that positively states the 1% pay 90% of the taxes. This includes corporations btw. I know for fact that the 10 most profitable corporations in the U.S. get over 2 trillion in corporate welfare a year. They mathematically cannot be paying 90% of the taxes when they are getting welfare subsidies that make all subsidies for the poor look like pocket change.

    The real fallacy is that it's the poor, under employed and unemployed that is dragging the U.S. down. It isn't them, it's the fact that the system is rigged so that the 90% have to shoulder the burden of paying the lions share of the taxes as well as pay for the welfare of huge corporations that are making record profits.

    "The only real fair method of taxation is a flat tax."

    This has already been debated and hashed out by economists.

    Assuming the Gov has trimmed all the fat and removed all redundancy,[well,we can dream can't we so stop rolling your eyes] it wouldn't work out numerically. 10% for the average middle class might be $100 a week or less. Probably less. Someone uber wealthy say 1 mill a week.

    Economists have calculated it would be another tax cut which is a revenue cut and wouldn't allow Congress to pay the bills. And we're talking about the necessary bills like our soldiers pay checks kind of bills.

    Tax cuts don't work either.

    Kansas made tax cuts last year that promised new jobs. This year they're 92 million short to pay the bills and unemployment hasn't budged. Their answer? Cut more taxes.
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    Her words prove her ultimate ambition is like any other Dem's: elections. Her constant campaigning doesn't match the fact that 50 years of "progressive" policies caused regressive realities. And please don't cite an occasional speech or policy by Reagan or the Bushes. Those were mere fingers on a broken floodgate.
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    "Her constant campaigning doesn't match the fact that 50 years of "progressive" policies caused regressive realities."

    They have a word for statements such as this. Abnegation.
  • #13
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    Well who would listen to someone that has never had or created a real job. She believes that Hillary " I can't Remember" Clinton and Nancy " Polluted " Plosives can save the country.
  • #115
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    How do you think jobs are created? They are created when you need a product or service. CONSUMERS create jobs. You guys act like rich people just decide they want to create a job out of the goodness of their hearts. Idiots.
  • #9
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    This might be a long shot but I'm going to go with libertarians and not they tea party guys who say they are. I mean the pro-gun and pro-choice real ones.
  • #22
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    What if you get the same candidate? Lets face it, rand is a conservative calling himself libertarian
  • #40
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    @Poltal rand does not call himself a libertarian. He calls himself a constitutional conservative. He is NOT a libertarian.
  • #143
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    fyi-just want to clarify-TP has 3 principles-less government, less taxes and Constitutionality. Within the TP are many with specific social positions-and I as a TP support the same beliefs. Suggest you find out more because, generally, the TP also supports Rand Paul.
  • #116
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    Liberal agenda? Did you step out of 1942 or something? We haven't had a liberal agenda in decades.
  • #146
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    @AceLuby you have some very strange standards if you don't think this administration is the most liberal, hand out free rides, undisciplined group we have seen in decades, but that is fine if it helps you sleep well at night......
  • #172
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    That's laughable since "The Center" has drifted so far to the right that virtually no one can tell where left of center falls anymore, accept those that know something looks crooked.
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    @YourReplysucks so you think we should just accept the extremes and not vote for the center moderate that makes things work?
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    Your first mistake is presuming you know what I think. What is "extreme" to you, is not likely something I would feel the same about. I'll leave it right there.
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