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    @callingthemout major gun control acts were passed in the 1930s, 1980s, and 1990s. Then there are the other tens of thousands of gun control laws on the books.
    Why do people not bother finding out what laws actually exist before demanding more?
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    Gun control doesn't work. The only thing that might make a difference is outright confiscation, door to door police searches, and a total ban on owning firearms. Even then criminals would still be armed, and we'd be living in a police state. Some people would actually prefer that.
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    I've got a solution. Sic the gun owners on the criminals then shoot the survivors. Problem solved.
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    They've already tried bans in both Australia and Britain and homicide rates saw no improvement and actually got worse... I've already argued and proved this point to the point of exhausting the topic before. Gun control measures have not reduced the homicide rate in any country in the world. So the effect was, a law abiding populace now left vulnerable while the same amount of people, at least, we're still murdered. The gun grabbers point out that gun homicide usually drops, as if the same or more people being murdered by other means, as long as it's not guns, is some sort of triumph.
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    He's an entertainer who relies on superficial emotions for a living. Not real facts. If he did, he'd know that gun violence has plummeted as ownership has increased in last 20 years.
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    And from his own admission, a sexual predator who used his popularity, prestige, and position to seduce women who were working for him, just like Willy Wanker Blythe, er, I mean Clinton! lol
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    gun violence has plummeted?
    Three spree shooters this week. Please provide your source for there being 3+ spree shooters per week in the past.

    You know,'real facts.'
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    In 2013, 11,419 deaths were caused my guns and 35,200 deaths in the US caused by automobiles.

    For the love of Christ, when are we going to do something about this nonsense?" "Nothing will move until everyone knows or has a family member that has been in an auto accident."

    We must ban cars NOW!
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    Let's follow your logic.

    Require gun owners to have state-approved education, buy liability insurance, register their weapons, and live with the possibility of confiscation of their license to operate for a variety of civil and criminal violations.

    Still like your analogy? I think it's worth a try.
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    @DARSB currently, NEARLY ANY firearm violation, even if no one was harmed and the person committing the violatiin didn't know it was a violation, is met with a prison sentence, confiscation of property, and a permanent lossof rights/license.
    Traffic violations are met with a warning or ticket, and you go on your way.
    You can buy, own, and operate a vehicle on private property without training or license, same as a gun.
    You must have a license/ training to operate a vehicle in public roads. All but 3 states require a license to carry a firearm in public. Many require training for the license. There is no significant difference in accident rates between states that do and do not require training. States with easier ccw access tend to have lower crime rates. Additionally, ccw licenses require background check, fingerprinting, and you must notify law enforcement when you move or you go to jail.
    Caught driving without your license, you have x days to prove you have one. Caught carrying without your license, you are likely going to jjail.
    You must register your vehicle because it is the only means other drivers have of identifying you. The same is not true for a carry gun, soo the logic doe not apply. No one is trying to ban or restrict cars, so no risk associated with registration.
    Accidental vehicle deaths: 45000/year. Accidental gun deaths: significantly less than 1000/year (around 600 last I knew). Insurance companies do not view gun ownership as an increased risk. What is the point?
    You were saying?
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    @DARSB
    Let's follow your logic.

    Require gun owners to have state-approved education, buy liability insurance, register their weapons, and live with the possibility of confiscation of their license to operate for a variety of civil and criminal violations for any gun carried on public property. If these rules are followed a gun owner can carry openly, or concealed anywhere in public.

    There will be no restrictions of any kind for guns kept on private property. Full-auto, suppressors, mortars, cannons, rocket launchers, etc. would all be legal to own and use on private property.

    Still like your analogy? I think it's worth a try.
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    @Meanie DARSB's statement is still true and a good one. The other banter really didn't nullify it.

    The problem with your analogy is that the intent of cars are not to kill, they are a necessity of everyday life. Gun deaths are usually deliberate.

    I am definitely not saying to ban guns, this is America and it is an absolute right. But your analogy didn't make a lot of sense.
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    Here is the very simple and unmitigated truth about the majority of the gun violence problem. IF Letterman, Obama, Reid and pickle puss Pelosi went after the people causing the gun violence, they would loose the majority of their voting block.
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    @marine1.#39

    You are seriously nuts.... if they went after the people causing the gun violence it's the Republicans that would lose votes which is why they won't muzzle these idiotic gun nuts.

    By the way, did you know that as soon as Hitler came to power he ended the workers unions and as soon as he was completely in power he went after the brown shirts who had helped him achieve is position.

    Now that reminds me of the Republican efforts to end unions and the gun nuts as the brown shirts.(see the night of the Long Knives)

    Sincerely yours,
    Laura
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    @gumbii #134

    About what? And be specific with proof that something I said was "uneducated".

    Otherwise I'll just have to assume that you are just talking out your bung hole.

    Sincerely yours,
    Laura
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    @LEC Comparing ending bad unions with hitlers consolidation of power is a pretty good example. The Unions the republicans target are the public sector ones, and ones that are crushing industry (see UAW and SEIU) in order to get workers obscene benefits and job security. Kind of a difference.

    Comparing gun nuts to Brown Shirts is pretty stupid too, seeing as one was an organization designed to spread fear and consolidate power, while the other is not even a group (at least in your description), but a general consensus within a significant portion of the population that we should adhere to a constitutionally enshrined individual right.

    So Laura, now that its clear Im not talking out of my rear, do you have any more ignorant comments you want to make?
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    I read a paper some years back that suggested that industrialized countries will have a much bigger problem with IEDs in the future than they do with guns now. The reasoning was that in regions where people like to blow stuff up, the average skill levels are not good enough to make them, and the bomb-making materials are expensive and/or hard to get. In the developed world, bomb-making materials are easy to get and relatively cheap, and anybody who paid attention in high school has the base of skills to make them.

    Therefore, if we were to confiscate all the guns but not fix the mental health problem, our maniac killers would probably just switch to bombs, causing even more carnage. Most of the recent mass killers in this country were functional enough to make bombs, and several actually made bombs as backup devices.
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    Hell fire! Growing up in Arkansas we would make bombs to play with. You ever go bomb fishing? A 1/4 stick of TNT dropped in and fish float to the top.:)
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    @Ryuo

    The problem with trying to fix the mental health problems is that many of them are caused by the society we are living in and are not necessarily caused by physical illness. Mostly they Breakout when life is stressful and the outlook for the future is bleak.

    So frustrated, in mental pain and likely physical pain and no where to turn for help and damned easy to find a gun and bullets and then go target shooting in a place where there is plenty of people or the last place you worked can be a stress reliever especially if you end your life or commit suicide by cop.

    Sincerely yours,

    Laura
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    @LEC I pretty much agree with that. I think we'll see a lot more people flip out as the economy declines, and there's not much we can do about it without sacrificing so much freedom that the threat becomes the State flipping out.

    That's why bombs scare me; if you go crazy with a gun, other people with guns can see you and shoot you. But a car bomb? I don't know how we can defend against it.
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    No everybody can afford to be protected by armed guards like Letterman or the President. Perhaps he and the President should set an example and disarm themselves (proxy armed security).
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    ...we will do something about it just as soon as knuckleheads stop focusing on the device and start focusing on the person and the actual root of the problem.
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    @TrumanSparks yeah, the whackjobs who fetishize over the device, and try to mindlessly ban it rather than address the real problem.
    Thanks.
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    We already have far far too many restrictions on our Constitutional RIGHTS that are not supposed to be infringed, it is the twisted liberal mindset that seeks to destroy our rights and constitutional protections that need to be cast aside !
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    Exactly right ! Not only do Democrats and liberals want to repeal the 2nd Amendment, but Harry [G]Reid has publically called for repealing the FIRST Amendment ! Who votes for this EVIL NUT ?!
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    So a gang banger should be allowed to hold a fully auto AK in the courtroom, during his trial for a drive by shooting at a nursery school?
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    @TrumanSparks WTF are you talking about??? I think you just reinforced avanteguard's statement about the "twisted liberal mindset".

    First off NOBODY can possess a full auto AK-47...unless they pay the government a tax and have a permit. Second, a gangbanger on trial for a drive by is probably a convicted felon and is prohibited from possessing ANY firearm. Third, unless you are an officer of the court or police officer, you cannot possess a firearm in the court building.

    Typical liberal, hysterical, unrealistic, idiotic gun hating rant.
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    @captchaos69 I asked a simple question. Who's ranting? Well, besides you with the caps and name calling, that is.

    I didn't ask if they could. I asked if YOU think they should.

    So, What is your answer?

    This particular theoretical gang banger is not a convicted felon, by the way. First thing he's ever been charged with.
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    "When are we going to do something" always cracks me up. They almost never give specifics, and the few times they do it is unrelated to the event on hand or even laws that are already on the books.
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    @Yank

    You didn't respond to the answer you asked for.. it is 2 dems & 2 pubs...

    And I went to all the trouble of finding the answer.

    And you to are suffering from Transference where you blame others for your own failings.

    Sincerely yours,
    Laura
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    Excuse me ?
    Are school aged children left in state designated gun free zones, unprotected a joke to you ?
    Obviously folks in Sandy Hook didn't take school security as seriously as they should have.
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    @daclark1911 next Dave will be proposing the elimination of buses and autos , since more children are killed in accidents on their way to or from school every year
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    I grew up in Indy in the same time period with this goof. He spent his time
    as a grocery store clerk and graduated to be, in my opinion a mediocre
    Comedian wanna be who truly lucked out. He, frankly has no clue what he
    is talking about and he would really be hard pressed to prove any new gun
    laws would have prevented Sandy Hook, V A. Tech, Santa Barbara or any
    other shooting.
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    After a plot to kidnap his only son was foiled I would imagine that Letterman has armed guards protecting his homes . Like Piers Morgan, who constantly railed against guns, but had signs outside his house stating that it was protected by armed guards. Celebrities are such hypocrites.
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    Sandy Hook could've have been stopped by one policeman with a two and a half second from holster to first shot draw ?

    We patrol our public schools inside and out in Columbia, Mo. We don't have mass school shootings.
    Do your schools have armed police policing you schools inside and out ?

    Why not ?
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    "daclark1911
    Sandy Hook could've have been stopped by one policeman with a two and a half second from holster to first shot draw ?
    We patrol our public schools inside and out in Columbia, Mo. We don't have mass school shootings.
    Do your schools have armed police policing you schools inside and out ?
    Why not ? "

    Because you Republicans would scream that there is no money for it .
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    @JoseinThrdWrld Why not have the school administrators, many who are vets, be armed and put a sign on the door that says "at any one time during the school year, someone is armed and trained to use it." The same as having an officer on hand, sorta.
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    @JoseinThrdWrld

    There are not armed guards in schools not because Republicans screamed about the money, it's because democrats screamed about guns.

    Former St. Louis County Police Chief Tim Fitch addressed a school district meeting with school officials and parents about having trained armed police officers, or school officials in schools right after Sandy Hook. Chief Fitch reiterated the NRA stance that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. The response from the air headed attendees was "we don't want more guns in our schools around our children".

    Chief Fitch replied that "WHEN, not if this happens in you school, remember what I said here tonight".

    This was in a heavily democrat district where money is not much of an issue.

    So before you start spouting off about politics, look at some facts instead of going off on a hate rant about republicans. Especially when it comes to guns. You got it backwards.
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    What he and other liberal twits continue to fail to understand is there is no real action that can be taken on the issue. No ink on a piece of paper will solve this problem.
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    Why doesn't drug control stop illegal drugs? Why aren't the laws against murder enforced? Why aren't mental health professionals held accountable for letting all the psycho murderers run loose? If you could just convince these murderers to obey the law against murder we wouldn't have these killings. I'm sure the only law they will ever obey is one that says they can't own a gun. Welcome to FANTASYLAND! I hope little flying, multicolored unicorns shit golden rainbows into your breakfast cereal bowl tomorrow morning.
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