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    that would have involved an unreasonable and unlawful detainment...or infridgement of other rights...but he could have if he wanted to, but i don't believe he was drunk...just demonstrateing outrage...who doesn't feel the way this man does right now? We have shrived for a non violent change, many have put faith in our system of governance, while others are losing this faith...even tho violence and more is used against us...we re danceing a sharp blade...And nobody here wants war. certainly not with guns or other crap. Here or anywhere on this planet. This is clear. But a minority of us humans...can't see things this way. I guess we could have done more to stop it(Iraq,Libya,Afghanistan). I hope very much we get the chance to do so in the future, locally, or for any kind of troop deployments...but among the military, they still do not see what was wrong. But questioning orders, and revealing abuses...These are our rights...our oath... it can't just be the citizenry of the world, saying no don't go...because our governments didn't listen the last time. Our police have different orders some may not feel they protect and serve us, or the constitution...some may have sold out, and recieve corporate pay *not confirmed personally *from a private security...and training...partiallly to adapt to new threats that are very real...but this pushes their necks and ours towards this stupid blade...

    I think some of this situation can be diffused, with *full disclosure, of the threats we face. It's time to be honest with us. Before this in-fighting gets expoited. We should have a real concept of what we should be fighting for, and from whom. And our LEO's and agencie's should be working with us, to a common goal... with mutual understanding...not some nazi spy on your neighbor bullshit....or nanny's busting teens smoking pot...People teaching kids to rat on their parents...We ae so dissolved and distracted...it's no wonder a car bomb, or a guy walking around in armor and or gun in a fireing poistion...just walks right by us...takes us on un armed...un prepared...not even mentally...and now we are banning the things that can defend us, at the places where the attacks happen...and they happen again....and again...yea...please someone carry a gun with them to work, school, to mc donalds...in their car...I hope someone has one other then the bad guy...for Christ? sake....
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    @pazsion I was thinking the same as @DARSB regarding "who doesn't feel the way this man does right now?"

    The vast, vast, vast majority of people don't feel outraged.
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    an inebriated man, with a loaded rifle, in his pajamas, yelling revolution.... and the cops didn't shoot him? Progress *clap**clap*. Because those guys shoot fucking puppies, it doesn't take much to set them off. Good job by the police.
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    @Ratpackjimmy By the way, no one is psychic, even cops.

    If he would have pointed his weapon at them, they still would have had the right to blow his brains all over the sidewalk, because they had no way of knowing it was unloaded.
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    @boombatic Thank you Captain Obvious, I spent 25 years in law enforcement then 5 as a federal contract employee. I know a little bit about the subject. The question is to Ironic guy that refers to all law enforcement as "those guys" and states that the gun was loaded. I was merely pointing out his stereotyping of all officers as "those guys" and that he didn't have his facts straight, which makes his comment moot.
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    Maybe they were already familiar with him. Maybe he's the town drunk or town nut and they probably get called to his house once a week to calm him down.
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    This guy was acting a little weird and the cops handled it perfectly. But this:

    "Houseman claimed he was openly carrying his gun legally, but he's wrong about that given how he acted, according to MLive. Open carry is legal in Michigan - but "brandishing" a gun is illegal."

    Gives a false impression. If you follow the link to the whole story you will see that the rifle was unloaded and no charges were filed.

    "In the Department of Public Safety's decision not to pursue charges, Webster said later that even though Houseman did not have the rifle in a sling and was  "fidgeting" with it, it was not evident that he was "brandishing" it."

    http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf...
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    It was unloaded? And the cops and people calling 911 would know that how? This guy was acting more than a little strange. He was walking around in his diapers making aggressive gestures while perching a rifle over his shoulder. He's lucky he wasn't shot. He was asked to put the rifle down numerous times and did not comply. I am for gun rights and own a couple myself along with my CCP but I do not support this guy one bit. People like him to a great disservice to gun rights advocates and no one should defend him or the idiotic open carriers at Target, Starbucks, whatever. They clearly don't get it.
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    Second time today they have mislead the facts.

    The last article about target....they were on an empty lot next to the store. No one from the protest went in. The pictures were all stock photos.

    Shoddy work
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    @Lawgone You do realize that you are talking about a nut and you make it sound as if he knew what he was doing.
    If you cannot open carry in Target, Starbuck, whatever, where should you be able to open carry?
    I have an unrestricted permit therefore, Pistol free zones do not apply to me, but I didn't see Target, Starbucks or whatever in the list of restricted places for those with permits, so open carry would naturally be allowed in those places. Some people choose to open carry as opposed to paying the government for the right to carry a concealed weapon.
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    @craythegray We are talking about an administration that will stop at nothing to push their agenda. The first thing that a corrupt government does, is to take away your weapons.
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    @Ratpackjimmy Only problem with your little conspiracy theory is that no one is taking away your weapons. Hell, people are having a hard enough time keeping the nuts from bringing them to peaceful public places and endangering everyone there.
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    everything has balance. our way of life, the way we set out to govern ourselves in the usa. Is balanced on a mutual respect and undersanding of this give and take of rights. And our laws at one time reflected this. Our founding fathers acknowledged that there are some rights, that remain naturally. And can never be taken away. And included the fundamental rights of life, in our bill of rights and our constitution. Which many countries have used as a basis, to form their own. And soon our animal friends will have an international bill of rights. And then we have to help them defend these and be recognized.
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    It's sad there will be those that defend this moron. When you're defending a guy walking the road in his pajamas in broad daylight while carrying a rifle and pointing and grabbing his crotch at police officers, you really need to take a look at your position. Guys like this and the open carry at restaurants and stores people completely miss the point of gun rights and only set them back with every dimwitted display they make. They provide ammo (pardon the pun) to those that say gun rights advocates are lunatics. This is why I'm a gun owner but no longer support the NRA or its kind.
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    "grabbing his crotch," maybe he thought he was Michael Jackson. I wish that I could agree with you, but you are making comments about someone that could be a very sick man. You are talking about him, like he was fully cognizant of his actions. We don't know, we didn't walk in his shoes today and we didn't experience his mental condition. As, for your belief that people shouldn't open carry in certain places, what is up with that? You can carry a concealed weapon in those places if you have a carry permit so why not open carry if it is legal? Are you safer from the "bad guy" if you are in restaurants or stores, therefore there is no need to carry a weapon? Those are the places that get robbed the most so what good is a weapon in the trunk of your car or at home in your dresser drawer? When the sick person comes in to reek havoc on innocent people I want someone with a weapon, either concealed or open to back me up. We are all entitled to our opinions, but please don't tell me that I am missing the point if I disagree with you. I get your point, I just think that you are wrong. The right to open carry is a law, if people choose to invoke that right, it doesn't make them " dimwitted."
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    @daclark1911 and when the commonwealth of Michigan has to pay out tort winnings for wrongful arrests and civil rights violations, thus bankrupting a financial burden commonwealth even further, in the name of difusing the moron and illegally confiscating a weapon that will be returned to him when the Supreme Court rules in favor of the guy, remember, stupid is is stupid does.
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    @Beanomac911

    I'm sure all that made sense to you but not even close to being reality.
    There's no civil rights being violated in this instance.
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    I have the right to defend myself.
    I do not have the right to threaten others with harm. That is what brandishing a weapon is. The fact that he was yelling "revolution" and was apparently armed (loaded or not) is enough to warrant police intervention.
    They handled this very professionally. This guy was lucky.
    And no, I do NOT advocate this kind of behavior. The only time you should see any civilian's weapon anywhere other than a holster or a sling is if you are threatening them.
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    This is another example of a person so worried about if they 'can' that they never think about of they 'should'
    It should be legal yes. but common sense also needs to be applied.
  • #39
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    We'll keep getting this crap as long the propagandists keep telling the crazies what they want to hear. What about WELL REGULATED do these people not understand? Not every moron should be allowed to have a weapon and thus some simple basic regulation but not on the NRA's watch. The NRA wants every lunatic, child molester, rapist and murderer to have free easy access to purchasing a weapon legally because gun sales are their ONLY goal.
  • #52
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    Other way around pal.
    If you anti-gun, hoplophobic liberals had your way ONLY lunes, child molesters, rapists and murderers would have access to illegal, black market guns and millions of law abiding citizens would be left without guns.
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    you know you're right when the only reply is from someone you've blocked. I don't have to look, it'll be some whine about "liberal this and liberal that". The simple minded never change.
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    Child molesters. Nobody said anything about catholic priests. Not every moron should BRANDISH a gun. We need to worry more how our servants in office are screwing us by taking our attentions to BS as usual. Why didn't they just go and shoot him like so many of the recent deaths from friendly fire or mistaken addresses etc? I figure the old dude is upset from the way we have let our country become a breeding ground for the elite that waste our resources and tax monies. He just needed to smoke a hog leg and chill. Oh that's right, that is still illegal because? it would cut into one of the elite's golden geese.
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    @DrFunkenstein The closed minded never change. You have to block people with whom you disagree?

    I'm proud to be on your little "blocked" list!
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    No breathalyzer test by the cops? No inquiries as to medication(s) that may or may not have been taken? Yeah, they "defused" the situation.....this time. When will Houseman reclaim his rattle for more go-rounds?

    Treat the symptom, ignore the cause.
  • #74
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    I voted you up and agree for the most part, but this happened a month and a half ago and the only info they are giving is a bit slanted to their agenda. Painting him as a drunken "gun nut." A month and a half and these professional journalists cannot dig up anything more? This guy was in the wrong, but why was he doing it? There's way more to this story. He probably was just prescribed a good dose of "solve all your problem pills!"
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    Typical of the blowhards on here that threaten civil war. When push comes to shove they realize the firearm they own is a pathetic match for the power of police and scurry away...
  • #88
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    This is only going to get worse as the republicans continue to whip their fringe elements into a frenzy with their tirades against civilized government.
  • #87
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    Yeah, and THIS guy is Paul Friggin' Revere! Let's entertain his fantasy, and do away with our current governance by the end of a rifle: what, exactly, IS the replacement scenario?
  • #60
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    Sickening how many on here are deflecting and defending the CRAZY guy. Absolutely sickening. Makes me even more glad I have no children to inherit this s**thole.
  • #164
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    Looks like the officers reacted in a thoughtful and just manner. Anyone that uses the weapon as a threat should have to give it up and answer to a judge.
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    He has a Facebook profile and it seems very ordinary with pictures of cats and friends. His favorite quote is even "live and let live".
    So, this shows we can't predict who will one day go bonkers. It's best to only legalize concealed carry, so we know only the nuts use open carry.
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    Obvious endowment problems like so many of these advocates have, he tried "brandishing" his "gun" twice but couldn't find it...... LOL.....
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