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    That's a sad story. Sucks she couldn't be everywhere at once. Instead of going the long-term welfare route, she works...rough to see people like that struggle.
  • #60
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    The mother has family in the area she just chose the easy way out rather than asking family for assistance.
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    @DrAwesome Oh, you confirmed with the family that they would have taken the child and helped out for free? Things aren't always as simple as they seem.
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    @DrAwesome
    you make the assumption that the family is a better choice... not saying what she did was right by ANY stretch, but unil you know her family you cant say that it woud be better....
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    @Now_What
    No I'm going off what the local papers said and family members have said on Facebook.

    But by all means keep making excuses.
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    @DrAwesome You definitely don't know that it was that easy, just like I don't. Seems she would have done that of that were the case.
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    ANY parent that would leave their child unattended in a public park while they worked needs their head examined.

    ANY parent with half a brain doesn't allow their young children to be alone in public places. Check the sex offenders registry. Every town has one. These loons are just looking for an opportunity. A little girl alone every day at the playground is an opportunity.

    Not to mention, what if that little girl had fallen down and gotten hurt? What would she do in the event of a storm?

    This child would have been better off left home alone with the doors locked. To dump her at a public park and expect other parents to supervise her (yes, someone obviously was supervising her to notice she was alone there) or take care of her should she get sick or injured, is irresponsible.

    This is neglect and irresponsible parenting. Go to jail? She put her daughter in jeopardy. I don't know if jail is the answer; maybe instead social services should help locate her a babysitter.
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    Debra Harrell works at McDonald's, and for most of the Summer, her daughter had accompanied her to work, passing her time by playing on a laptop. After the Harrell family's home was burglarized and the laptop stolen, the child found herself with nothing to do and asked her mom to drop her off at a local park instead of returning to the fast-food restaurant.
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    I feel they are punishing the poor who are in a damned if they do, damned if they don't situation and throwing these kids in possibly abusive foster homes who benefit financially for keeping them. When I was 9 years old I was riding my bike and roaming the neighborhood & local park till the street lights came on! It was also normal for kids to carry a key and let themselves in the house after school because their parents were at work. What has happened that this is now abuse suddenly?
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    @LeAnneR
    Her kid was better off at work with her than by herself at a park.

    Not sure how her boss would feel about her bringing her kid to work but nothing else could be done under the circumstances.
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    "ANY parent that would leave their child unattended in a public park while they worked needs their head examined. "

    Anyone who opposes a living wage law is equally guilty. Anyone who opposes providing child care for those who have to work is equally guilty.

    " maybe instead social services should help locate her a babysitter. "

    Will social services help pay for that baby sitter?
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    I was a kid, age 10 and below. in the early 60's in Queens Village which is a section of Queens in New York City. Me and my younger wen out almost everyday to play with friends our own age, and our parents didn't know where we were. My mom at that age in the early 40's used to ride the subways with her sister who was only 12 years old. Things were different then, or sure seemed that way. Parents just let their kids out in the afternoon after school, or in the morning in the summers, and said "Don't come back in til dinnertime. Now scram !"
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    It was different then; far fewer kids were being abducted. Also, you were playing with siblings and groups of friends in your neighborhood. This kid was dropped off at a park, alone, a mile and a half away from where her mother was.
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    @cpeter133 "far fewer kids were being abducted." I don't think the stats will support you on that. I did a short bit of research. This site has some good info. http://www.freerangekids.com/crime-statistics...

    My own experience is that most molestation involves a family member or a friend or acquaintance of the victim, and most child abductions involve an estranged spouse or partner, not a stranger.

    I'd say (and the research seems to indicate) that the reality of child abduction and molestation is vastly less than most people believe.

    Is it possible? Yes, but lots of things are possible. Is it probable?

    No.
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    @cpeter133

    Oh, come on! How do you know that fewer kids were being abducted back then? I;m sure plenty of kids were abducted, even back then, but these incidents mostly went unreported, and never made the evening news or the papers.
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    @mplo Mostly went unreported? When kids were missing for a few hours, maybe. When a kid vanished, it was a major story and a community scandal.
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    Huh. I dunno. Sounds like the worst think this mother and child ran into was a busybody and the State.

    What's wrong with people these days? Why is the first reaction to report a fellow citizen rather than offer a helping hand?

    There are a lot of unknown variables here. But in my opinion everyone standing outside the situation should spend less time judging and more time remembering (if you have any idea) how hard it can be to be a parent.

    Why didn't the person who noticed that the girl was unaccompanied simply keep a closer eye on her? Why not offer to help the mother out? Why not become part of the "village", as Hillary Clinton famously said, and help someone who needs it rather reflexively turning them into law enforcement?

    I'm sure, now that the heavy hand of the State is involved, the lives of this woman and her daughter will be MUCH improved. But probably not. They are now separated. The mother will likely end up with some kind of conviction which will make her life and her daughter's life just that much harder.

    What's wrong with people, that they don't offer to help? What's wrong with people, that they automatically assume that the State should run people's lives?

    As a teacher, years ago, my mother noticed that a boy was coming to school with no coat in the winter. She knew the family, knew they had nothing.

    She took a coat which was too small for me and gave it to the child. My father chided her because he thought the parents would be too proud to accept charity. My mother answered "Maybe so, but that's their choice. My choice is to give a coat to a boy who needs it. What they do isn't up to me."

    These days a teacher is REQUIRED to report signs of neglect, and given the current trend of State intervention for the slightest hint of poor parenting, that family would have been broken up and vilified, as folks are doing to the mother in this article.

    Apply the Golden Rule, people! Extend a hand.
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    And if the "helping hand" belongs to a child molester? Unless I missed something in the story, the mother wasn't alone in the area and spoke English. SHE didn't seek out help, either from friends or family, or apply for government assistance for childcare which she certainly would have qualified for if she worked at McDonald's. There are huge liability issues to taking charge of someone's child; if the child falls and hurt herself, it's your liability regardless of whether you could have prevented it, for instance.
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    @cpeter133 There are huge liability issues to having children.

    There are many more decent, altruistic people than child molesters in the world.

    But obviously there are also a lot of people who are too chicken s#!+ to help out another human being.

    Calling the cops is easy, though. "I did something!" Then go back to watching tv, feeling smug.
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    I find the holier than thou, judgmental attitude of most of the posters in this thread pretty disturbing.

    I also think the "kids are always at risk, so we must hover over them constantly" attitude rather over the top.

    Check out Freerangekids.com for an attitude adjustment.
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    What I find to be sad in this story is that the mom was actually working, she wasn't relying on the government to take care of her and her family and yet she wasn't making enough to pay for a babysitter. What I find even more sad is that I just read a thread on politix, how our government is providing free food, shelter, free education and health care for illegal children dumped at our doorstep until they are in their twenties. I'm not saying that this mom shouldn't have used better judgment or that she shouldn't be held responsible, but I do find it a load of bull that she doesn't have the same or more options as illegals do. This women is a legal citizen of this country, she works, pays taxes, taxes that are going to pay for the illegals sucking our economy dry but she can't get some help to take care of her legal child while she works? Sad, our country and it's priorities are beyond f'ed up.
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    Folks keep saying "....we live in a different world now than we did when we were young."

    Really? We've been brainwashed to believe things are worse, just terrible, but really they aren't. We've just convinced ourselves that they are.
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    I remember when I was 8 I was able to go to a park and would be gone for many hours. It was a different time then, and i don't think people today realize how a good place to live turned into s--t. I hate the hammering by society on someone like this woman with arrest and ridicule, but considering the time and the modern thought process she will need some correction. After that
    i don't know.
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    Ironic that some childhood friends and I were just talking about that. When we were around the 9/10yo area one of our mothers would drop a couple of us off at a drug store to buy candy, walk thru the alley alone, and get to the only theater in town to watch a movie. Then we'd mill around outside with our friends after the movie waiting for our ride. Never a worry by any of us. Good times.
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    On another note . It would be nice if all those who father children but do not pay child support are put away.

    This is an epidemic in some areas .
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    @suzzyq

    Though I would like to see that it wont happen and by locking them up , we remove these baby machines who think it is a joke .
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    There are thousands, maybe millions of single, low income parents in this same plight. Sad, so very sad. This should not happen in what is supposedly the wealthiest nation in the world. We can do better, much, much better by our kids.
    We spend trillions in our quest to rule the world, yet can't take care of what we already have.
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    I remember working at a store in the mall where i live & being amazed that so many parents would act like the mall was a childcare. It wasn't just parents that worked in low paying jobs either. There were well to do parents doing the same thing. With the price of childcare the woman working at Mc Donald was probably making less than she'd pay for her daughter to go to camp or a babysitters...
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    That's when you use your voice to talk to other moms in similar situations that work with you, and babysit each others kids on your off days. Simple enough solution. No neglect involved. Also parents in my town use the dollar movies as a babysitter for their kids. They'll drop them off at the theater and tell the kids to find a ride home 4 hours later after a few movies. It's pretty sad. The older ones usually leave or get kicked out and go do drugs in the parking lot.
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    @KentuckyJim It is extremely sad. God forbid anything bad happen to these kids. Those moms would never forgive themselves. I'm a single mom & thankfully I've never been put in that position.
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    @KentuckyJim

    When my sister and I were growing up and were under 18, we were dropped off at the movies by our parents plenty of times, without any disastrous results, we survived, and we were picked up by our parents afterwards. it was no big deal.
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    @mplo You were picked up! They cared. There are kids in my town still out in the parking lot trying to get a ride home at 10:00 or 12:00 at night when their movies are over at 9:00.
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    @mplo At least you had your sister with you. This little girl didn't have anyone with her. Would you do the same thing with your children that your parents did with you & your sister?
  • #176
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    When I was 9 years old during the summer time, I'd leave house at 9:00am and run the neighborhood and city with my best friend. We'd come back home when it was getting dark.
    I guess today, they'd arrest our parents
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    Some kids are mature for their age and can be trusted to be responsible and some can't. I think it depends on the kid. I don't think a crime was committed if the little girl was in reasonably good health. If her friends had an adult with them she would have aid if an accident were to happen. It may be better than her being cooped up in her house all day. Accidents happen more frequently at home than they do on playgrounds.
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    When I was 8 years old my dad had died because of the war, everyone was poor and hungry, I sold papers in front of a Chinese Restaurant until midnight and a few times until 1 am, not while school was on, later I set pins in a bowling alley until quite late, I also built a shoeshine box and shined shoes in beer joints at night, the money I made went to my mom. Back then it was unheard of to be molested on the street, if they caught someone pulling that they would really be in hot water, maybe even killed. My Mom cleaned offices at night and hated it that her kids were working, but one day things came together and she was able to buy a small meet market. We were shaky at first but she did okay and died owning 3 stores, I also learned a great lesson, how to work. When not working as a child I often played outside until it was good and dark with my pals. I feel sorry for this group of kids growing up today, seldom outside playing, texting all the time or their attending to a game on a smart phone or something, they are fat as well fed pigs, and are living in a period when spiritual values is scoffed at and religion is called mythology. Well notice how our country is going, if you like it, then I'm wrong, but I bet a lot of you are worried. I suggest you read Psalm 9:17 King James Version 17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, And all the nations that forget God.  I put it here so you don’t need to look up.
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    I'm not religious, but was raised Catholic and taught to do right by my parents. I've never had children or raised any either, but I still can see from witnessing the lack of parenting that we are doomed.

    I'm glad to have lived more than half my life by now, because it means I won't be around to witness anymore of the horrific mistakes being made, where people aren't decent to each other and children aren't given rules to live by. We are supposed to grow and evolve into better beings, by learning life lessons. Too many are failing and don't even care.
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    @ALonelyHeart Yes, and somehow a better way to see the latest replies, This was easy to find but if there are 700 post and someone replies say at 490, you find yourself scrolling and scrolling. With today’s technologies you would think it would be easier to find and continue a conversation on a subject. Maybe there is and I am too ignorant on the problem.
  • #184
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    @ALonelyHeart Our country has no leadership, and the world is in very dangerious times, we might be finished if we don't get some leader in office, and even then it might be too late. I do not say we need a Republican or Democrat, we need a smart Leader and get back to what our founding gave us. Is there a Edit button for fixing our leadership. I wish yes.
  • #156
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    First time, no let her have some time to come up with a better solution. If she should be arrested(and she was) the father should be too. If people took it as serious to create a life as it is to take a life as I believe it is the laws would change.
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    I don't know if arresting her solves the problem. Might have been smarter to help her get into a church group or something similar with shared child care. The mother is working, trying to earn a living. This may have been a poor choice, but offering help to someone who is actually trying instead of mooching is better than putting them in the jug and taking away their kids.
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    Arresting a mother for leaving her daughter at the playground while she worked?? No way...that's about the stupidest thing I've heard of, to date!

    If the daughter's been going to the park every day and walking a mile and a half each afternoon to the same McDonald's for lunch, and the mother works nearby, the kid isn't in any danger.

    Maybe the mother doesn't want herself and her daughter to go the welfare route, and I respect that.
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    When I was a kid in San Francisco we played in the park all day long with no one supervising or following us around. This is a different world now than it was in 1950 but you have to eat and if you pay rent and buy food and are working at a fast food chain you are doing what you have to do not what you want to do. Maybe we should tell her to just quit and go on welfare. Wouldn't it be a lot less expensive if we provided a good day care situation on the taxpayers shoulders than have them on permanent welfare? So now we are going to arrest the lady, take her children away from her. If we put her in jail we have to pay the toke and the kids going into Social Services is going to cost a hell of a lot more than if we gave her a public funded alternative.
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    She probably couldn't afford a babysitter...anyhow, I know things have changed a lot...but...when I was nine...I use to spend many days outside...without supervision...just playing with other kids...which is what she was doing...I hope they give the Mom a break on this one
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    "The little girl would walk about a mile and half to McDonalds for lunch every day."

    This is where the problem is.
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    @happyhedon the mother would drop her kid off at a part a mile and a half away from her work, leave her there, and have her walk to her work for lunch each day.
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    Arresting her and putting the child in protective services solves nothing. Isn't there any way or anyone who could have helped her without her being punished? She didn't make the right choice, but geez, she was working and wanted to keep her job without excuses, and obviously couldn't depend on help or didn't want to ask for it. Whole system SUX.
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