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  • #2
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    I don't care for most of his economic ideas, but his honesty and positions on liberty and privacy issues is why it is very likely I would have voted for him if he had received the GOP nomination in 2008. His son is nothing like him.
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    I think Rand is more like his father then he lets show.

    Remember, he is relatively new to the profession and still has a lot of pandering to do in order maintain his career. There is no money in being honest and trustworthy in politics.
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    @FollowTheMoney He never fired that campaige aide that stompted someone who protested against his pro-life position into a coma and despite his commendable talk on cutting back surveillience state, when he was asked by one reporter why he criticized current efforts and not the cointelpro in the 1970's he said "that was different, those people were communist." not to mention that he endorsed romney.
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    @FollowTheMoney That concerned me, we both know how much weight an endorsement from someone like me or you would carry in the presidential race

    :)
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    Had he gotten the GOP nod, I wouldn't have voted for a democrat. Then again, I wanted to vote for McCain, but I couldn't stomach Palin.
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    @justapirate

    No, his comment is true but irrelevant.

    And I don't dislike him, I'm just pretty sure that he shouldn't be in a position of political influence.
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    "We send weapons into Syria to help the rebels and if al Qaeda ends up getting it, it doesn't mean our American government and Obama deliberately wanted ISIS to get American weapons."

    Very true.
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    @BobSmith One thing you overlook is that once you release weapons to anyone, you no longer have control of them and how they are used. Politicians should recognize that fact. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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    @DickB No it doesn't. I can't disagree with what he has said. I'm just saying that providing anyone with heavy weapons is probably not a good idea, regardless of whether they are friendly or appear so today.
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    US gives weapons to who (at the time) you think is the lesser of the evils.

    The reason you do this is because in Europe and the UN we put our hands in our pockets and look to the sky as we whistle a tune.

    We know that you will wind up doing the dirty work and than you are damned if you did and damned if you didn't .

    I have always admired Ron Paul because he always notes how the rest of the world doesn't do a thing and the US is for the most part the worlds referee .
    He doesn't agree with that role .

    Your money which has been trillions over the years and lives lost have never stopped a conflict, you have only pushed it back a few months or a few years.
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    His point is pretty spot on...wonder how many of our own weapons will be used on us one day. Especially with the Syrian rebels and from those left over in Iraq for ISIS.
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    @HoraceGreely

    It was you republicans who SCREAMED that Obama had to do something and help the rebels and now you say he should not have?

    Lol you people are rich.
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    @Fleck

    I was always up for allowing airstrikes, but not arming them...but then again I've always been critical of Obama's foreign policies that got us to that point since his ring and butt kissing apology tour in the Muslim world.
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    If you take US weapons out of the hands of the lunatics around the world, guess what, there would be far less, way far less world trouble, add in Russia and we would have very few Middle Eastern and other conflicts to worry about. Take away US drug laws, which has created the world's most violent, most destructive black market in world history and there goes the rest of 99% of the world's troubles. So, US arms dealers and US politicians are to blame for most of the world's troubles. That how Capitol Hillofbeans sees it.
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    You know....I don't think I've ever agreed with Ron Paul and this is no exception. Is this one of his back-ass-ward "I have a mancrush on Putin" aha moments?? AND why would anyone in their right mind ask Ron Paul's opinion on.....the price of bird seed or anything else. As one journalist said:
    "ISIS is not using US weapons. A quick look at any picture of ISIS shows they are using 99% Russian weaponry. This should not be surprising. The Iraqi Army was and is equipped with that weaponry. The arms flowing into Syria were primarily Kalashnikov rifles and RPGs because that is what the rebels are familiar with. The Syrian Army is also equipped with equipment made primarily by Russia.... ISIS is not operating with US leadership, US strategic direction, and US armaments should be clear to anyone."
    As usual Paul is operating on less than two cylinders. Maybe he's going the way of Ronnie Reagan??
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    He makes a valid point. I still don't quite understand exactly what happened with the plane being shot down, but he is correct we did give Syrians weapons.
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    @HoraceGreely

    Generally there are two types of weapons used around the world.

    Russian weapons, and American weapons.

    Is it logical to blame Russia for every guy toting an AK?
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    @HoraceGreely

    It is not logical to blame Russia for every guy toting an AK.

    It is logical to blame Russia if they supplied advanced capability anti-air systems, and also supplied Russian personnel to help them set it up and use it.
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    For me, the issue is not weapons exchanges to ISIS or the Russian rebels, which happens all the time. The issue is how to manage a horrible incident. Certainly shooting down a civilian aircraft is deplorable, whether accidental or purpose. The U.S. accidentally did it on the USS Vincennes in 1988. We took responsibility. The Russian separatists, however, apparently have removed evidence (e.g., black boxes and the missile launcher) and have done every thing to impede the investigation and return of the bodies. If they just stand up, say it was an accident, and allow investigators to come in the do their thing, and remove the bodies, things might be different for Putin and the separatists.
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    I noticed a lot of people howl about the Korean Airline Massacre but forget about Iran Air flight 655. If you want to get mad about countries that shoot down planes, call everyone out, not for biased reasons.
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    AS he said we armed ISIS before it became ISIS. We armed the Taliban we armed Iraq so what is the difference?
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    Just because America does it, obviously doesn't make it right. I don't agree with the "So What?" but his facts are there. Another thing to consider about the weapons being Russian is... am I wrong in assuming that Ukraine has for the most part always purchased is arsenal from Russia? I mean Russia is one of the worlds biggest weapons suppliers outside of US and China, and given the relations between Ukraine and Russia befor this whole debacle even started, and considering convenience... I'd think all of their weapons are Russian on both sides, provided the printed language on the weapons may have been Ukrainian from prior sales and Russian on thw newly supplied weapons that Seperatist Forces use... or maybe Russia never changed the language at any point in time because both alphabets are so similar? Or maybe the print is not how they determined it at all and I'm making false assumtions about how they determine who's weapons were used. I know little or nothing about their weapons trading arrangement, but if someone who does could chime in, it'd be an interesting conversation.
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    AMERICAN WAR MONGERS have always had a double standard ... it's OK for America to shoot down civilian flights and throw a little money at the mistake (life is bought rather cheap)... but anyone else makes the same mistake ... it's an act of WAR!
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    I do not agree with this particular statement but I find him the ONLY politician who is not worried about being PC nor bowing to America's neighbors nor "allies".

    He calls it as he see's it .

    Years ago this man said that US had to close the border using Military and both sides jumped on him.
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    The US and Russia are suppliers of weapons to rebel groups. The US armed and supported Bin Laden after all. There are frequently unintended consequences for these acts. Blame Putin Blame all.
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    Countries who export weapons should know and be aware that they are going to be used and that how they are used is then beyond their control, even if they are used against the exporting country. Exporting weapons just exacerbates violence and war. I don't care if the people we (the US) export to are our "friends," the weapons will be used and violence enhanced. I think that export of heavy weapons (tanks, aircraft, rockets, large caliber artillery, bombs, etc.) should be illegal world wide, and countries which engage in it, including the US should cease and desist. Backing one side or another in a civil war is counterproductive and should not be a part of our policy.
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    And how would you suggest that? We supply to country X, country X needs money, so they have a fire sale.... who got the guns? I don't know, the guy with the Datsun truck......
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    @DickB You are correct. That's just what I said. We shouldn't supply ANYONE with heavy weapons, starting hopefully yesterday! Violence begets violence! Weapons have no mind, they hurt whoever they are turned against. Since we can't control our own country, how does anyone expect us to control weapons we give/sell to other counties. Our arms makers should not expect to make big profits from foreign sales. They should be prohibited from making foreign sales. Granted, we will have to pay more for the weapons our government buys from them since they are no longer subsidized from the foreign sales, but in the long run it may be cheaper than having to fight another war because of weapon bungling.
  • #125
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    ISIS didn't get American weapons in Syria. It got them in Iraq, after the Iraqi army dropped its weapons and ran despite outnumbering them more than 20 to 1.
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    I suspect that the ground which the "Iraq Military" took back was actually US Elite troops in Iraq uniforms .
  • #113
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    And that's why I never thought Paul was qualified to be POTUS. There is a big differene between Putin encouraging the Ukrainian rebels & ISIS capturing weapons form the Iraq government. We can get some blame for arming Islamic extremists in Afghanistan but we haven't tried to create the secular war in Iraq.
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    Of course he is right. We the people, whether here, Russia or some other nation, are nothing but pawns of the plutocrats. We still have a chance to change that but time is running out. With each new decision handed down by conservative High Court we lose more liberty, freedom, and Constitutional protection. 28th Amendment is essential to undo damage High Court is doing to liberty with decisions like McCutcheon and Hobby Lobby.
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