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  • #12
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    He is over his head & has been since elected. We can hope he only does the least amount of damage possible in the next 2 years. This POTUS has been a disaster to our Country & the world!
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    @Allex_Spires ...Are you one of our friends from Mexico? Because if I have to explain anything i've said...you have been MISSING. No one who has/ is witnessing this "debacle" of 6 years can possibly see what is happening. PROOF? LOL... read the paper, watch the NEWS. Where have you been??!
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    @mimi57

    Apparently I haven't been in the imaginary world you pretend exists outside your head so yes, since I am not psychic and I don't magically know what you think and believe without being told, you'll have to tell me; and, since you can't magically know about me for the same reasons, we'll then have to discuss it.
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    @Allex_Spires and the fact that the militairy has a budget of more than half a trillion. It out spends several of the next countries in terms of militairy funding many of whom are their allies.
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    @DarylL Obama added a Trillion on to the Farm Bill to invest in Food Stamps and Bio-fuel. You talk like that is a lot of money.
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    @nautilus yup, and Mr. Obama and his HHS Secretary illegally redirected taxpayer provided funding to do it ...
  • #317
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    Obama seeks brisk passage of border children funding bill.
    Would subsidize schooling, health care, lawyers for illegal immigrants.
    We have to stop this madness. Google this: NUMBERSUSA .
    Once you are registered (join us), go to the "action board"
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    "What is going on here?" That's simple. We have a gutless flop eared criminal in the White House. He's dumb as a damn rock, couldn't operate a Popsicle stand, and he's illegally playing a shell game with billions of dollars of tax payer money, lying every time his lips move about his Marxist takeover of healthcare. He wants this country to have third world healthcare, because to a communist like flop ear, it doesn't matter how pathetic the healthcare is, how many people die cause can't see the doctor, it only matters that the collective ALL have the same substandard healthcare. Oh, except of course. It's the inevitable outcome of socialist/communist policy. Mediocrity.
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    lol.. The president has a certain view and he's not failing.. He's smarter than you think. But solutions only work on paper.. He doesn't understand the consequences. I just think he's over his head.. Bering President looked easy to him.
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    We have a gutless[....]criminal in the White House.
    [Seems rather gutsy to me]

    He's dumb as a damn rock, couldn't operate a Popsicle stand, and he's illegally playing a shell game with billions of dollars of tax payer money, lying every time his lips move about his Marxist takeover of healthcare.
    [Socialism isn't Marxism. You might want to find out about the types of government that do exist and how they operate before deciding which ones you do and don't like]

    He wants this country to have third world healthcare,
    [Like they have in Germany and Canada, those disgusting third-world areas... what exactly is the "third-world" again?]

    because to a communist like flop ear, it doesn't matter how pathetic the healthcare is, how many people die cause can't see the doctor, it only matters that the collective ALL have the same substandard healthcare.
    [Who's dyin' and where?]

    Oh, except of course.
    [That's right!]

    It's the inevitable outcome of socialist/communist policy. Mediocrity.
    [I wish you spoke American English! Nothing you say makes sense. Look, if you're not gonna learn the language get out of the country. Simple as that]
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    @autiger ...especially since he only had to vote "PRESENT" in his previous hard decisions ;)

    And he is NOT smarter than me, Auburn. I aint smart by a long shot, and yet I can see the swag, the inability to ever admit wrong, and abject deceit from pledges of truth and transparency
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    @Pr0-Lif3

    But we don't know if this is a help oir a hinderance or if it is good or bad we just know it's money appropriated for and presumably spent on something and we don't know the results. Quick, get angry!
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    @Allex_Spires Yes, the private sector always does that.... spend 8 billion on something- then when it fails- just ask people for more money to cover their losses or go to jail (taxes)

    lol Some people never get it.
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    @ahsum99ss it isn't a mistake. it is a flat-out bribe to keep older voters from realizing how bad a shafting PnPuACA is ...

    it is also an illegal redirection of funds. people go to jail for this sort of thing ...
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    8 billion to pay off the supporters? You're really not paying attention to the cost of war relative to the cost of keeping the elderly living.
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    @Allex_Spires
    If he was so concerned about the elderly living, he wouldn't have f---ed with their health care and priorities for delivery/choice of physicians, ad nauseum
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    Medicare would benefit greatly if they changed their methods. Take my late Mother (RIP, 2003). She was oxygen-dependent and from 1994 until 2003, she relied on an oxygen concentrator to supply her with oxygen while she was home, which was most of the time. An oxygen concentrator retails for under $1,000. rather than buying an oxygen concentrator for my Mom, Medicare RENTED her an oxygen concentrator at a cost of $323. per month. That's a total of 123 months from the time she became oxygen-dependent to the time she passed at $323. per month =$39,729 paid out, rather than just under $1,000., which was the price of an oxygen concentrator. Even if her oxygen concentrator had conked out after 5 years, and she had required a replacement one, we're still talking UNDER $2,000. as opposed to $39,729. And that's just in a single case, of a single piece of equipment. Multiply THAT times the hundreds of thousands of people under Medicare and you begin to understand why the system is in such a mess.

    I'm not ignoring Medicare fraud, which is extensive and also costs taxpayers one heck of a lot of money. In large cities, some doctors have been busted for paying $100.-$200 to some indigent or homeless person for the use of their name, DOB and SSAN to submit phony claims to Medicare. In at least one case, even an elected official was busted for engaging in large-scale, organized Medicare fraud. This also needs to be pursued and violators severely punished by confiscation of assets, capital, etc.
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    If we can't defend our borders to keep foreign children from wandering in, how can we do anything about Medicare fraud? Our federal government has always been incompetent. There's nothing special about Obama to make him a bigger part of the problem than any other president. Medicare fraud is just one of many consequences of federal incompetence.
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    @McDuck "If we can't defend our borders to keep foreign children from wandering in, "

    In order to do that, we'd have to turn the country into a police state...except along the border it already is. You get within 100 miles of the Mexican border and you have zero constitutional rights and armed thugs everywhere you look.

    Although it is entertaining to watch all the "Christians" spewing hate at children.
  • #243
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    @RedSonja2000 Common sense says instead of hating the foreign children who wander in, put up a fence or something, to keep them from wandering in. If it's a humanitarian crisis, let it be a foreign one, and send foreign aid workers to Mexico to help with it, while keeping the children out of the USA with a fence or whatever, and never even reach the point where there would be any question of deporting them. But that's common sense, the polar opposite of the federal government.
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    @McDuck A fence like that would cost billions. If we just gave each of them $100,000 to go away it would be cheaper. And more humane, of course, not that anybody gives a damn about that.
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    No one seems to take corruption seriously any more... from Defense contractors and billions in no bid contracts to bypassing congress and significantly altering a program under the guise of study. If the GAO questions the legality of a multi-billion dollar study… why aren’t Republicans all over it? The oxygen concentrators are probably being rented from a politically connected business who convinced the right people to make a bad business decision in order to get a sweet job when they retire from civil service or who made the right political contributions.
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    ""Medicare Part C" - is a managed care alternative to regular Medicare in which the government pays private insurers for the health coverage of seniors."

    Houston, we may have found the problem. Votes from seniors? How about lobbying by the insurance companies?
  • #26
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    You mean those same insurance companies that sat in with Obama, Reid, and Pelosi and helped write the ACA? Those insurance companies?
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    Despite widespread projections that Medicare's reduced payments to Advantage plans mandated by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act would lead to enrollment reductions, private Medicare plans are booming. Currently, there are nearly 15.9 million seniors enrolled in Advantage plans, compared with 11.4 million in 2010, an increase of almost 40%. Nearly one-third of all Medicare beneficiaries now are enrolled in Advantage plans, with roughly two-thirds of them opting for HMO products.


    Defying predictions, Medicare Advantage enrollment continues to grow rapidly, benefiting the nation's large insurers most.
    The growing significance of Advantage revenues helps explain why the insurance industry has fought so fiercely against proposed cuts to the program. In February, the CMS released proposed payment policies for 2015, with most analysts projecting the updated policies would lead to a 3% to 5% cut to health plans if enacted.
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    @zipyourlip In other words.... Republicans refuse to go along with the prospect of their sugar daddies in the insurance industry getting a 3% to 5% cut from the taxpayer tit.
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    Only government can be so incompetent and yet no one ever loses their jobs nor held accountable!

    If someone in the private sector tried to pulled a stunt like the above, their head would be on the chopping block and it wouldn't be allowed ignored till $8 billion in the hole =)
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    8 billion dollars spent on a project is not 8 billion down the hole. Those are old people who are still alive, their loved ones buy them gifts, drive to visit, take them out for meal keeping the economy afloat and when they do die there are plenty of funeral homes awaiting permission to charge their families a hefty fee to put them in boxes and either burn or bury them.
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    @Allex_Spires - The $8 billi0on wasn't spent on old people. It was spent to study Medicare C's benefit to old people... Not one penny of that $8 billion was spent on actually medical care for anyone.
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    @DogLady_1
    It doesn't say(nor does it say for how long) but it seems that the money would be used to maintain the phased-out system and pay employees operating in it rather than just hire people to stare at screens while those people still on MAP slowly waste away and die.
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    Way to go "O", you have stiffed every man, woman, and child out of about $25 per person for this "study". Makes me wonder exactly who made the big bucks off this part of the boondoggle.
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    No, it IS vote buying, pure and simple. "Research" done for no reason with no results is fraud and corruption, learned from the best Chicago thugs there are.
  • #263
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    It's not like the rampant fraud and corruption is anything new, it's just insult to injury that Mr. Hope, Change and Transparency is no different from his predecessor.
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    @MarkColwell Sure he is. Everything he does is unprecedented and beyond reproach, because all his opposition is racist. Eric Holder said so, and he'd never lie. Or win a case at the Supreme Court's last session.
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    @Fleck I didn't think that incompetent or stupid had a race... I disagree with most everything he says and does though.
  • #433
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    Yes ,Obama has been the same .

    In fact as far as transparency , he might be the worse President ever.
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  • #21
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    What would you expect from a spineless weak leader who has nothing in mind but politics while trying in every way possible to weaken the Country that led the world. Obama should be in jail along with Eric Holder and many other in this criminal administration.
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    @Allex_Spires Pretty much name it when it comes to the billions of taxpayer dollars that Obama has wasted on various programs and ideas that have amounted to nothing other than draining our treasury of money. Everything he touched pretty much turns into s**t.
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    @fscott777 "Obama should be in jail along with Eric Holder..."

    I hear that a lot but when I ask why I usually get nothing but bluster and crickets. Why should Obama be in jail? And be careful your answer isn't something that GWBush did twice as often.
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    @Curmudgeon "Wait until you lose control of the Senate this Fall...:)"

    yeah, then we'll find out what happens when you allow 300 rich white guys with zero moral compass run the country.

    And I notice you didn't list any of Obama's crimes. Bluster and crickets.
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    When people spend other people's money this is going to happen.
    How much did we waist on "Green Energy "? It never ends..
    It's amazing the people will trash big business and put giovernmrnt on a pedastile thinking it can solve all our problems. DIFFERENCE: When Big Business does something illegal, I have no problem with throwing the "bums" in jail. BUT government will CAUSE the problem, then act like they had nothing to do with it and then try to fix then problem by throwing money at it.
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    @autiger " people will trash big business and put giovernmrnt on a pedastile"

    Big business owns the government--bought and paid for. They will NOT go to jail for anything illegal. Only poor people go to jail. That has nothing to do with government. It has everything to do with the people who kiss the butts of the rich.
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    @RedSonja2000
    You need to read what the census tells us... There is not a permanent "class system"... People move up and down the economic ladder.
    The "rich" don't always stay rich and the poor don't aways stay poor.
    I wish everyone could become rich.
    Rich people/ companies employ people and give them a way to move up.
    (Sam Walton worked for someone else before he started Walmart)
    What's wrong with the world is the lack of capitalism.
    Now government favoring businesses. Is a whole different subject.. I'd agree. General Electric got tons of federal money because they were favored. That's "crony capitalism".. That's wrong.
    I'm a teacher .. I'm not striving to be rich ... But if you are.. I'm pulling for you. You getting rich helps everybody.
    Good luck
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    Sorry to take so long in responding but can you point out one single investment where Obama has spent money where the project didn't file for bankruptcy. All I want is one.
  • #86
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    This is what happens when you give someone a Trillion dollar checkbook that they don't have to balance.
  • #292
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    People like you are amazing. Do you love Osama Bin Laden still after all of these years that you still hate Obama for killing him?
  • #294
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    @DrFunkenstein considering I spoke with members of the SEAL team that actually killed Bin Laden before they were killed, and their opinion of him was less than mine I think I'm on solid ground. They knew Obama used them.
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  • #297
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    @DrFunkenstein I love the country. I hate Obama. Now do you have something constructive to say or just intend on attacking me?
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    @DrFunkenstein I do have to ask where did you get the impression I hate this country? You are seriously misguided.
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    @BobSmith "Obama will spend us into doom"

    lol. Obama's been president for 6 years. Why hasn't he already? Things have been getting steadily better and he's only got 2 more years. He'd better hurry!
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    @RedSonja2000 obama has DOUBLED our national debt! take off your "ROSY" glasses and see the real crisis the dictator has created.
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    @silentrunning I'm sure Obama sits in the White House lighting cigars with $100 bills lol

    You may have forgotten the little gift GW Bush left behind for Obama called The Great Recession that tanked our economy and threw millions onto unemployment insurance and foodstamps. Also a couple of extremely expensive wars.

    "Doubled" is a bit of an exaggeration. It's 80-ish % and not 100% but the debt has certainly increased. However, government spending has not: http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-spend...

    The economy is gradually improving and the deficit is gradually declining as a result. The debt would be extremely easy to take care of if anybody was actually worried about it--which they are not. All it would take would be to increase taxes. Back in the good old days that would have been called "paying for what we bought." Now it's a leftist liberal plot or something. Those wars were supposed to be free! Republican logic has it that wars don't cost a dime until later when there's a Democrat in office and then they are scandalously expensive and proof that Democrats are spendthrifts. The same logic applies to tax cuts. We slash our funding base while Republicans are in office and when the debt goes up, it magically becomes the fault of the Democrat who gets elected next. Damn tax and spend liberal!

    Meanwhile the stock market is robust, inflation is low, employment is increasing and gradually things are getting moving. It's all too slow, but with the current congress unable to so much as pass gas, there's no remedy for that. The economy is improving in spite of them.
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    @silentrunning "real crisis the dictator has created"

    Obama is either (1) a ruthless dictator bent on destroying the country or (2) a weak-kneed incompetent who is in over his head. I see both from right-wingers on a daily basis. In fact, I think both assertions are in this thread. That leads me to believe that right-wingers don't believe either thing. They just stay whatever suits the moment.
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    @RedSonja2000

    Better? Are you watching the state of the nation on a VCR, having hit the "rewind" button but not "Stop" beforehand?
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    Gee, by the headline I thought this was going to be an article on Obama's research programs to convert our country from a Republic into a socialist state!
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    Me too ! An equal problem is the courts NOT ruling his acts unconstitutional, whn they CLERALY are. The courts are equally to blame for not stopping The Obamaniac's Marxism-Stalinism.
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